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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 10:59 AM
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Hillary: "When I call Hillary's headquarters, there's no electricity. It's scary."
Althought the article is a couple days old, there appears to be nothing changed with this story:

Some Clinton supporters are anxious. One staunch Clinton backer, a former elected official in the state, felt alarm on visiting Obama's headquarters in Manchester to pick up tickets for a friend for Oprah Winfrey's appearance with Obama last weekend and seeing how much "buzz" there was there. "I'm nervous. Obama's campaign feels like Jack Kennedy's. They seem so excited," said the supporter, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the campaign had not authorized the comments. "When I call Hillary's headquarters, there's no electricity. It's scary."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/12/15/AR2007121501915.html


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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 11:02 AM
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1. so she's comparing a visit
Edited on Wed Dec-26-07 11:03 AM by MonkeyFunk
to Obama's headquarters just before the Oprah-thon with a phone call to Clinton headquarters?


edit: Also, your headline is very strange - it implies Clinton called her own headquarters.
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 12:13 PM
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23. I volunteer at said Obama Headquarters. IT'S TRUE!
I was phonebanking there the day and night people were coming in to get their Obama/Oprah tickets. We'd known about this for weeks beforehand. This night was no different than any other night I've worked there. This IS an exciting campaign and the electricity is definitely there. This is from personal experience, so if you want to disagree about it, then just call me a liar.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 04:37 PM
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42. Who's calling you a liar?
I'm saying it's hard to compare "electricity" when you visit one headquarters and phone another. The two experiences just aren't the same.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 11:07 AM
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2. Posted several times when it came out two weeks ago.
Obviously Clinton's NH HQ has less giggling teenage girls answering the phones than Obama's.
Obviously that means Hillary is Hitler.
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JohnnyLib2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 11:10 AM
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5. Heh. Kudos on the first sentence!

--from a grumpy old ......
:hi:
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 11:13 AM
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6. yeah, kinda suspected that.
at least she shaved off the 'stache.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 11:16 AM
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10. "giggling teenage girls " is the same sexist tripe you posted back then too
The young WOMEN I know who are working on the campaign in my area are intelligent, serious, and professional. And they are also enthusiastic, because they have a candidate to be excited about. I also notice the same lack of enthusiasm among Clinton supporters here. There tend to be 2 reasons people support Sen. Clinton: They are party insiders who think she is going to win. Or they are non-party insiders who are supporting her because of Bill. In either case, no one is excited about her. No one.
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ElizabethDC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 11:22 AM
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11. No one's excited about her?
Well, I am, and I'm frigging pumped up! I think Hillary's wonderful, and she's a great candidate who will be an excellent president. I'm a young woman who volunteers for Hillary (albeit in the DC headquarters), and I know that there's a lot of enthusiasm there. (I also know a lot of enthusiastic Hillary supporters in my homestate of Florida, but as there are no campaigns here, none of them are volunteers.)
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 11:43 AM
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19. Come out here to Arizona and drive around with "Hillary" stickers on your car
You would see quickly that this is a very different world from DC. Arizona is one of those swing states, rapidly turning from bright Red to Purple, where this election will be decided.

As for excitement over Hillary Clinton among activists, volunteers, and Dem voters in general, I'm not seeing it. Her core supporters are big donors and party insiders. Basically, the kind of calculating people who don't get excited about anything. Most of the rest want Bill back. So if they're enthused, it's over Bill, not Hillary. I've also had a few women tell me that they really want to see a woman in the Presidency. While that's completely understandable, it's not an expression of excitement about Hillary Clinton.

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ElizabethDC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 11:58 AM
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20. I'm neither a big donor nor a party insider, nor am I voting for Hillary to get Bill back
I actually like Hillary, and I know a lot of others who do, too. We're not calculating, we're real people who are excited and supportive of a candidate who we believe will be a great president.

Also, just for the record, I don't live solely in DC, I also spend about a third of the year in Florida, so I know what it's like in a swing state (this one happens to be purple but turning red.) We also have a Hillary sticker on our car here in Florida, and we haven't had a problem, even when we recently drove the car through Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, and Georgia.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 12:11 PM
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22. Fair enough. nt
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 01:34 PM
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39. I have a Hillary sticker
get lots of friendly waves.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 01:13 PM
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38. Go WildCats go!! Bear down
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 11:23 AM
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13. "giggling teenage girls" is sexism?
Link?
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ccpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 11:27 AM
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15. if you're easily offended
Edited on Wed Dec-26-07 11:27 AM by ccpup
have nothing else to say and looking for an excuse to bitch about something, then, yeah, "giggling teenage girls" is HIGHLY offensive!

:sarcasm:
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 12:19 PM
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26. You know, whenever it seems that you are constantly running into people who are "easily offended"
It's usually a sign that you are an offensive asshole.

Just sayin' :shrug:
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ccpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 12:22 PM
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27. wow!
did you just call me an offensive asshole? I'm not sure the Post you're replying to is worthy of such vitriol, but, then again, I'm not you. Thank God.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 12:33 PM
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31. I don't know you at all, maybe you're not an asshole.
I was just sayin' :shrug:

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ccpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 12:34 PM
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32. okay
wasn't sure. And it would have been a first for me ... EVER! (as I'm considered a fairly nice, giving person).

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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 12:15 PM
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24. Yes. Why don't you ask Sen. Clinton if referring to women as "giggling teenage girls" is sexist.
I'm sure she'll think it is too.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 12:46 PM
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34. I was referring to the giggling teenage girls as giggling teenage girls.
But please, do go on (and on) about what a mean ol' sexist I am.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 01:03 PM
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37. Well then provide some sort of proof that they are indeed teenagers
I've been involved in many a campaign, and while there are occasionally people in their teens involved (which is wonderful!), most of the young people are at least in their early 20s. The young women I've seen working for the Obama campaign are intelligent, serious, and professional. There is much excitement in the office but I've never heard anyone giggling or behaving in anything less than a dignified manner when dealing with prospective voters. I'm sorry that the candidate(s) you support don't generate that kind of enthusiasm (though Richardson has a pretty decent following here in AZ). But it's no reason to demean and trivialize people because they happen to be young, and female.

"Giggling teenage girls" was meant to be insulting and you know it. You wouldn't have said it otherwise. And you know exactly why.

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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 11:09 AM
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3. So Hillary's people are more grounded and stay on task. That's a good thing.(eom)
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 12:27 PM
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30. ROFLMAO!
:rofl: Your high school must have had a pretty lame debate team!
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 02:29 PM
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40. You're right. We'd practice by debating groups of laughing jackasses.
I've found that it comes in handy on a few of these discussion threads.
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 11:10 AM
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4. omg she should like totally drop out of the race and stuff!!111!!!
barack is teh r0xoRz!!!11!!!1!!!
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ccpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 11:14 AM
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7. this is what's called
being out of ammo. (sound familiar, zilchzulu?)
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 11:15 AM
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8. Man I love your desperation!
:rofl:
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 11:15 AM
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9. lets see what has been reported by the washington post over the
weekend. one: claiming HRC is running a racist campaign against obama. two: HRC's campaign is anti muslim. Three: writers reporting on obama is always positive (same shit different day) and there is always something anti-Hillary written.

Now I am no master electrician but this person could actually tell from calling on the phone there was no electricity? When did Ma Bell instead of saying, " sorry this number is temporary out of order" begin saying, " Sorry, this location has no electricity"

Oh and the oprah push began falling off first of last week and now that folks have celebrity out of their systems they are going back and using their common sense.
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ccpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 11:25 AM
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14. isn't it obvious
how the MSM is desperately trying to shove Hillary down our throats and, in effect, coronate a Queen? :sarcasm:

And I know more people than not who simply shrugged their shoulders when Oprah became involved. In the end, it really does come down to the Candidate and his or her record, or lack thereof. Now, just try telling that to Oprah's monumental ego when Obama doesn't do as well as she expects him to. Ouch!
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Nederland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 11:29 AM
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17. It's worse than that
The phone company is required by law to have its own power grid so that 911 calls work even when the electricity goes out. There literally is no connection between the phone system and the power grid. Clearly the quote is from someone that is exaggerating or lying.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 11:37 AM
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18. Your joke falls flat and your technical data are wrong.
Edited on Wed Dec-26-07 11:37 AM by Tesha
The landline telephone network is normally powered from
the utility grid via series of converters in each Central
Office that change incoming mains power to 48 volts DC.

Huge storage batteries in the basements of the Central
Offices are then "floated" across this 48V rail.

When mains power fails, the batteries can keep the C.O.
going for several hours, but if the outage lasts more
than a few minutes, diesel or gas turbine generators
are automatically started to replace the missing mains
power.

Tesha
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Nederland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 12:39 PM
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33. Thanks for confirming what I wrote
My point is that phones continue to work even when the power at a location is off. A person calling a number would have no indication that the electricity bill had not been paid unless someone picked up the phone and told them that.
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 11:22 AM
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12. What, they didn't pay the power bill?
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KennedyGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 11:27 AM
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16. Stretching a bit Zulu?..polls must be going up for Hillary
I mean really now...better get Oprah on the Bat-Phone...quick!
Maybe if she gives a toaster to each voter, she can help Obama..
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 12:05 PM
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21. stophernow.com must be late with their daily talking points email....
What will Free Republic and DU's HillHaters do if that site doesn't come up with new stuff for them soon?
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 12:16 PM
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25. ohmygod! It's true. They are getting their stuff from the swiftboaters
How ugly is that? They are sleeping with the enemy. Authur Finklestien is a right-wing hack.
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 12:25 PM
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29. I was there. This is a first-hand account.
I volunteer at that HQ and I was there the day people came in for the tickets. Let me tell you the truth--It's ALWAYS like that! That day was no different from any other. This campaign has people who are working 14-hour days and they never get discouraged. It's a movement, and a very exciting one at that. FIRED UP!
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 12:24 PM
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28. Howard Dean's headquarters had lotsa electricity
just sayin'
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chascarrillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 12:52 PM
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35. And he's been a great leader of the DNC
just sayin'
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MGKrebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 02:32 PM
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41. Obama for DNC chair!
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 12:57 PM
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36. I called Hillary's headquarters and was knocked out by the shock.
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surfermaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 06:30 PM
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43. Scared of What EDWRDS?
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