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calteacherguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 04:19 PM
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Say Hillary wins Iowa and Obama wins NH
What then? A big difference in NH and Iowa is that NH is an open primary, and 40% of the voters there are independents who lean towards Obama.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 04:21 PM
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1. lol all it means is Hillary gets 7 votes & Obama gets 4. IOW, it means little.
Life will go on for all.
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pstans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 04:22 PM
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2. Won't happen
The winner of Iowa has gotten and average bounce of about 14% in NH and that has been when there has been 8 days in between the contests. Now with just 5 days in between, if Clinton or Obama win Iowa, then they will win NH.

If Edwards wins Iowa, then the bounce might not be enough for him to win NH, but it will make it a 3 way battle for NH and SC. Then things will get really interesting.
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calteacherguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 04:23 PM
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3. I don't believe it in the Iowa bounce.
Edited on Wed Dec-26-07 04:23 PM by calteacherguy
I don't know who is going to win Iowa, but I have a strong sense Obama is going to take NH no matter what because of the independent voters there. I also believe he will go on to win SC.
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maximusveritas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 04:27 PM
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5. Where'd you that number?
According this article:
http://www.wmur.com/politics/14900471/detail.html

"Four years ago, John Kerry surged 17 percent nearly overnight. Historically, it's about 5 or 6 points, experts said."
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pstans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 11:10 PM
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14. # came from this diary from mydd
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Uben Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 04:27 PM
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4. It means Hillary wins, here's why.....
Iowa is only one word and New Hampshire is two words, so since Hillary won a one word state, and Obama a two word state, it stands to reason that Hillary would win this scenario because there are more one word states than two word states.

Now, you could always go by alphabetical order, but she wins that one too, because I comes before N.

Some folks might argue that since New Hampshire has more letters, it is the bigger prize, but they both have only three vowels.
Granted, New Hampshire has more consonants, but the only one Iowa has is the letter W, which we all know represents a win.

Simple logic....really!
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ccpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 04:31 PM
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6. my head almost exploded
while making sense of your logic. Then I felt an odd stinging pain in my right temple and ... it all became so crystal clear. Yes. One word States against two word States, alphabetically categorized and in a nice neat row. Simple and beautiful. (insert padded room laughter here)
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Uben Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 04:33 PM
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7. LOL
I've seen about every other excuse and reason given, so I decided to keep it simple.
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ccpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 04:43 PM
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8. works for me
but now I gotta go and find a list of all the States and count how many are one word and how many are two word. And then arrange them in alphabetical order. And then ...

Ah, hell, I'm just gonna have a left-over Christmas cookie and take a nap instead.
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dbackjon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 04:45 PM
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9. LMAO!!
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 04:55 PM
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12. Bad analogy. This isn't based on arbitrary stuff like that.
If Obama wins NH because of Independents, that will show that he is more electable in the General. Winning Iowa, as important as it is, shows that you can get the Dem vote. Big deal. Any of our candidates will get the Dem vote in the General.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 04:49 PM
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10. "What then?" It means 2 little states down and many big ones to come
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Robbins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 04:52 PM
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11. Iowa
If Hillary wins Iowa this race Is over.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 05:23 PM
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13. That would be fine with me, but I don't think it is that simple
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-26-07 11:25 PM
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15. You all got excited about dean and the 50 state push, well HRC
is trying something similiar and even if and it is a big if she loses NH I still say by the middle of February or by the end of the month HRC will have enough delegates to become OUR nominee....

Remember, jsut becasue one loses NH does not mean a campaign is over. If that is the case then there ws no Bill Clinton, and no bush'

Ben David
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