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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-26-07 08:16 PM Original message |
IF this is a more dangerous time and we need a president who's "ready on day one," |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-26-07 08:20 PM Response to Original message |
1. Quite the opposite. I don't think we "know" that Obama has good judgment |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-26-07 08:29 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. Not true. He spoke out strongly against it in '02 as an IL state Senator |
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ccpup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-26-07 08:23 PM Response to Original message |
2. yes, even if he did |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-26-07 08:36 PM Response to Reply #2 |
9. No, |
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ccpup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-26-07 08:43 PM Response to Reply #9 |
17. so obama was choosing |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-26-07 08:48 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. Yes, for the benefit of Kerry and Edwards. |
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ccpup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-26-07 08:54 PM Response to Reply #21 |
26. I just find it interesting that |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-26-07 09:00 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. Did he say |
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ccpup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-26-07 09:14 PM Response to Reply #31 |
40. ''What would I have done? I don't know" |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-26-07 10:10 PM Response to Reply #40 |
60. And he EXPLAINED why he said that. |
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ccpup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-26-07 10:27 PM Response to Reply #60 |
63. um, give me a little credit |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-26-07 10:42 PM Response to Reply #63 |
67. You get credit for |
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Tejanocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-26-07 08:24 PM Response to Original message |
3. Obama's "judgment" has lead him to offer the worst health care plan. |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-26-07 08:38 PM Response to Reply #3 |
10. I think it's the BEST health care plan. |
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Tejanocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-26-07 08:59 PM Response to Reply #10 |
30. I know Hillary's and Edwards' plans are universal (like Social Security) and Obama's isn't. |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-26-07 09:03 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. So you don't have the answer to my questions. |
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Tejanocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-26-07 09:12 PM Response to Reply #33 |
39. Your questions were foolish, but the answers are that employers will generally pay for insurance, |
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Perry Logan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-26-07 08:26 PM Response to Original message |
4. Obama's followers are a problem. They seem to have swallowed every lie ever said about the Clintons. |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-26-07 08:38 PM Response to Reply #4 |
11. Care to point out one lie in my OP? |
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Perry Logan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-27-07 03:25 PM Response to Reply #11 |
88. You said Osama had "good judgement." That's quite a whopper. |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-27-07 04:44 PM Response to Reply #88 |
89. No. That's a FACT. |
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Dhalgren (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-26-07 08:26 PM Response to Original message |
5. I don't believe that this particular time is a very "dangerous time" |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-26-07 08:28 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. So you don't buy Hillary's "closing argument"? |
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Dhalgren (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-26-07 08:38 PM Response to Reply #6 |
12. I think that fear-mongering has worked for the last seven and a half |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-26-07 08:42 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. So I take it you're not a Hillary supporter |
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Dhalgren (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-26-07 08:47 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. I do not support Clinton. If the Democrats manage to hang onto |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-26-07 08:50 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. Good. |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-26-07 08:35 PM Response to Original message |
8. I'd like to know why we should elect someone who is |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-26-07 08:40 PM Response to Reply #8 |
14. So would I... |
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Dhalgren (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-26-07 08:41 PM Response to Reply #8 |
15. I agree. I don't think we really need a "Commander in Chief" right now. |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-26-07 08:40 PM Response to Original message |
13. Do you think Obama showed good judgement in the McCLurkin affair? |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-26-07 08:45 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. No, but he didn't AGREE with his position and has a clear record of |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-26-07 08:49 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. Ok, pretend you're a lesbian |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-26-07 08:52 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. I wouldn't stop supporting him due to his strong record |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-26-07 08:57 PM Response to Reply #24 |
29. I watch people's actions |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-26-07 09:02 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. Oh. And Hillary doesn't give you serious concerns about HER judgement? |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-26-07 09:06 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. What does that have to do with what we're discussing? |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-26-07 09:16 PM Response to Reply #34 |
41. Oops, I should've asked about Edwards... |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-26-07 09:21 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. I give up |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-26-07 09:23 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. How convenient. I answered your question and now you give up. |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-26-07 09:24 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. You didn't answer my question at all |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-26-07 09:28 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. I most certainly did... |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-26-07 09:35 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. What I asked |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-26-07 09:58 PM Response to Reply #51 |
57. I answered you... |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-26-07 10:04 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. Ok, so you don't think he needs to apologize |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-26-07 10:24 PM Response to Reply #58 |
61. Yes, we do... |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-26-07 10:29 PM Response to Reply #61 |
64. I think he was incredibly dumb to take matching funds |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-26-07 10:49 PM Response to Reply #64 |
68. I mean how do you feel about him first saying he'd forego matching funds |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-26-07 10:55 PM Response to Reply #68 |
70. He probably said it for political expediency |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-26-07 08:56 PM Response to Reply #18 |
28. edited |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-26-07 08:46 PM Response to Original message |
19. I've had enough of the scare tactics. |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-26-07 08:54 PM Response to Reply #19 |
25. Yup. More of the same. |
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jillan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-26-07 08:54 PM Response to Original message |
27. Even tho I really like Obama, I cannot accept this argument from him. Why? |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-26-07 09:08 PM Response to Reply #27 |
36. So you don't support Hillary? |
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jillan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-26-07 09:12 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. Hell no! |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-26-07 09:18 PM Response to Reply #38 |
42. OK then... |
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Bitwit1234 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-26-07 09:06 PM Response to Original message |
35. Since Obama can't even show up to vote what in the hell would he be ready for |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-26-07 09:09 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. sniffa's right; you need your own blog. nt |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-26-07 09:20 PM Response to Reply #35 |
43. What an idiotic thing to say. |
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Bright Eyes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-26-07 09:27 PM Response to Original message |
47. While Obama is my #3, I think he'd do better then Senator Clinton |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-26-07 09:31 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. Who are your first two choices? |
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Bright Eyes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-26-07 09:39 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. #1 is Kucinich |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-26-07 10:51 PM Response to Reply #52 |
69. Thanks for answering... |
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Bright Eyes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-27-07 02:29 AM Response to Reply #69 |
81. Whats wrong with Edwards? NT |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-27-07 03:19 PM Response to Reply #81 |
85. He's a phony. |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-26-07 09:31 PM Original message |
She thinks voters have forgotten this hideous display - - |
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grasswire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-26-07 09:31 PM Response to Original message |
50. ready day one = Biden |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-26-07 09:42 PM Response to Reply #50 |
53. Bingo |
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Nedsdag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-26-07 09:43 PM Response to Original message |
54. First and foremost, |
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Bill Todd (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-26-07 09:47 PM Response to Original message |
55. Obama's 'good judgment' |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-26-07 09:52 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. I like Obama precisely FOR his 'less arrogant attitude toward the rest of the world'. |
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Bill Todd (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-26-07 10:25 PM Response to Reply #56 |
62. He didn't seem to consider himself pressed for time |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-26-07 10:38 PM Response to Reply #62 |
66. Here's my rebuttal, and there's no need to be so condescending. |
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Bill Todd (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-26-07 11:36 PM Response to Reply #66 |
74. That wasn't condescension: |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-27-07 02:03 AM Response to Reply #74 |
79. I'm plum out of suggestions. What or who is yours? |
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Bill Todd (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-27-07 04:18 AM Response to Reply #79 |
82. That's fair enough |
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Progressive Radical (184 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-26-07 10:06 PM Response to Original message |
59. Both of them suck. n/t |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-26-07 11:13 PM Response to Reply #59 |
72. You might also. Do you have anything positive to say, about anyone? nt |
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Progressive Radical (184 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-26-07 11:16 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. Yes, I do. |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-27-07 02:00 AM Response to Reply #73 |
76. You're not immune. Links to your assertions? No passes on DU. nt |
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Progressive Radical (184 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-27-07 08:21 AM Response to Reply #76 |
83. Immune from what? |
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UrbScotty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-26-07 10:31 PM Response to Original message |
65. Let's not forget IWR supporter John Edwards (nt) |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-26-07 10:58 PM Response to Reply #65 |
71. I'm not. He co-sponsored it! That's even worse. |
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annie1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-27-07 02:03 AM Response to Reply #71 |
80. but why an attack on her for it? you could go after all of the people... |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-27-07 03:21 PM Response to Reply #80 |
86. Like I already explained, |
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annie1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-27-07 02:02 AM Response to Reply #65 |
78. and Biden |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-26-07 11:39 PM Response to Original message |
75. Clinton and Obama are not the only people running. |
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annie1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-27-07 02:02 AM Response to Reply #75 |
77. srsly. |
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hayu_lol (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-27-07 08:35 AM Response to Reply #77 |
84. It is always interesting to watch a thread collapse into chaos... |
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jenmito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-27-07 03:22 PM Response to Reply #75 |
87. They're the only ones who raised enough money to be competitive. |
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