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DemKR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 04:18 PM
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Poll question: Is it wrong for head Barack Obama adviser David Axelrod to link Benazir Bhutto's death to IWR?
Edited on Thu Dec-27-07 04:23 PM by DemKR
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 04:19 PM
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1. It is wrong for this poll to pretend Axelrod is politicizing this tragedy...
for the purpose of slamming Obama.
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 04:23 PM
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10. DAMAGE CONTROL! DAMAGE CONTROL!
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 05:53 PM
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28. INVENTED ISSUE! INVENTED ISSUE!
:D
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annie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 04:23 PM
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12. i think the poll is lame. but i do think the words were illplaced by axelrod and he shouldn't have..
gone there.
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dbackjon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 04:54 PM
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22. He is
And you are blind or a fool if you don't see that.
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CyberPieHole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 05:29 PM
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24. LOL...the irony in your post is precious!
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 04:19 PM
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2. god you guys are desperate
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 04:23 PM
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13. it's really quite unbecoming
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Scriptor Ignotus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 04:19 PM
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3. where's the Evan Bayh poll?
or is it only bad when it comes from the Obama camp?

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/12/27/535372.aspx
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 04:20 PM
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4. No!
It's only bad when it comes from Clinton.

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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 04:20 PM
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5. I gots me snarkbait gun all ready.
If you bothered to follow either cable channel (faux doesn't count) you would have seen, heard, or read
Dodd
Biden
McCain
Obama
Hillary
Thompson
Romnerd

all make a political statement today.

AND YOU QUESTION OBAMA? give it rest.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 04:21 PM
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6. That's kind of push-polly... I would suggest
"Was it wrong for Obama Spokesman David Axlerod to suggest that Hillary's Senate record may have contributed to Bhutto's assassination?"

"Politicize" is kind of subjective.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 04:21 PM
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7. This is a politically-motivated death, with political implications for our country and
for our next leader. Nothing wrong with "politicizing" it--this is what it's all about, deciding who has the best foreign policy judgment during events such as these.
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Nailzberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 04:22 PM
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8. It's wrong for you to be so disingenuous in wording this flamebait poll question.
But what else is new.
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suston96 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 04:22 PM
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9. Axelrod must be Shaheened!
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maximusveritas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 04:23 PM
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11. It was Clinton and the media who politicized it. Axelrod was simply responding to a question
that took the position that the assassination would help Clinton. Axelrod should have just said he wasn't going to play politics with it. Instead, he tried to argue the opposite. I think that was an obvious mistake. But it's dishonest to claim he was the one politicizing it.
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 04:24 PM
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14. I'm stunned. Who would have thought someone would say Clinton did it?
Edited on Thu Dec-27-07 04:25 PM by Perry Logan
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maximusveritas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 04:27 PM
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17. Anyone paying attention and not a Clinton partisan perhaps?
Did you not see her comments from earlier today?
Or Bayh's remarks?
Or the question asked of Axelrod?

Or are you just ignoring those?
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hayu_lol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 04:29 PM
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18. It was certainly Obama's place to make a statement of condolence...
but it is neither a time nor place for an Obama surrogate to do so independently. Unless of course, the surrogate was prompted into doing so. In that case, it would be wrong.

Does not Obama bear the same responsibility for his surrogates actions/statements as all the Hillary surrogates who have been blamed so much over the last couple of weeks for the same kind of operation?

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Demit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 04:24 PM
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15. I reject your premise. It's your premise that is wrong here.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 04:24 PM
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16. Yes.
And some of his supporters here are doing the same thing. It's disgusting.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 04:30 PM
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19. he did nothing of the kind
Your idiotic poll is based on a lie- yours.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 04:34 PM
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20. Absolutely not. Our diversion from Afghanistan has caused instability in that area.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 04:34 PM
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21. Delete - dupe
Edited on Thu Dec-27-07 04:37 PM by hnmnf
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 05:01 PM
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23. Absolutely NOT!!!
I blame Hillary, Edwards, Biden, Bush, Cheney, and anyone else that supported the occupation in Iraq for the deaths of hundreds of thousands.
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 05:48 PM
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25. Axelrod's statement was in response to the notion put forward by Evan Bayh
Bayh claimed that Bhutto's death demonstrates the need for Hillary's 'strong leadership'.

The reporter asked Axelrod why this would not necessarily be good for Hill.

He replied that her 'strong leadership' had led to her IWR vote which proved to be a tragic error resulting in the destabilization of the Middle East and teh spread of Terrorism.
His point being that maybe Hillary supporters shouldn't try to use her death as a tool to demonstrate why their candidate is the only choice.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 05:52 PM
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26. What Obama Campaign Manager David Axelrod REALLY said in response in reporters' questioning....
Today after Barack Obama's closing argument speech in Iowa, Obama adviser David Axelrod parried questions from reporters who pressed him
on whether the killing could help Hillary.

Here's one key exchange:

REPORTER: But looking ahead, does the assassination put on the front burner foreign policy credentials in the closing days?

AXELROD: Well, it puts on the table foreign policy judgment, and that's a discussion we welcome. Barack Obama had the judgment to oppose the
war in Iraq, and he warned at the time it would divert us from Afghanistan and al Qaeda, and now we see the effect of that. Al Qaeda's resurgent,
they're a powerful force now in Pakistan, they may have been involved -- we've been here, so I don't know whether the news has been updated,
but there's a suspicion they may have been involved in this.

I think his judgment was good. Senator Clinton made a different judgment, so let's have that discussion.

http://tpmelectioncentral.com/2007/12/obama_adviser_bhutto_assassination_reminds_us_that_hillary_made_wrong_call_on_iraq_war.php


Nice of you to leave it out of your Rovian flamebait OP.
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avrdream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 05:52 PM
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27. Cheney himself couldn't have done it any better, IMO.
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