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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 06:03 PM
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I have neve disliked GDP more than today.
It's such a damn sad day today. I can't believe people are using Benazir Bhutto as a political football. I just wish this weren't going on. Her body isn't even cold, and all some people can do is play game over her corpse.
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 06:04 PM
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1. I know what you mean
But it's been sad here for a while now. And I don't mean sad like condolences sad.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 06:04 PM
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2. I hear you
It's puke worthy seeing what's happening in here today,
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 06:08 PM
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9. I'm still in shock over her assassination
I just don't know how to deal with it And I'd hope that we could come together over this tragedy. How dumb is that?
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 06:17 PM
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27. I agree.
And SOME (ok, one) jerks on this thread STILL don't get it. :-(
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racaulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 06:06 PM
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3. Absolutely agree.
This forum has devolved into nothing more than a snarkfest today. It's been really sad to watch.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 06:06 PM
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4. Newsflash:
GDP is populated with lots of screaming douchebags. Phlegm at 11:00...
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 06:07 PM
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7. ..
:rofl:

:thumbsup:
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 06:09 PM
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10. I just lerted you.
That was very offensive to screaming phlemish douchebags. How dare you?
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 06:10 PM
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15. I'm a phlegmish immigrant.
So *I* can say that.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 06:32 PM
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42. "Phlegm at 11."
Truly, a phrase for the ages. :thumbsup:
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 11:14 PM
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54. I prefer the term "hair on fire"
That seems to be popular in the lounge, I think.
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TransitJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 06:06 PM
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5. It is.
I've hidden close to 40 threads so far.
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 06:11 PM
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17. and many of us thank you for it.
not a fun job, I well know. I used to moderate another place, and damn it got nuts over gore v. bush.
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TransitJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 06:32 PM
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43. I'm not a mod
I'm referring to just hiding the threads for my own sake. :hi:
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 06:06 PM
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6. From the statements the Democratic candidates have said
I think they were done with taste and decorum. I haven't heard any democrats try to make points. None.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 06:08 PM
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8. i can't believe Evan Bayh
:puke:
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 06:09 PM
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11. Typical response from an Obama supporter.
:D


(Did I do it right, Bitwit?)
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 06:10 PM
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16. ..
:rofl:
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 06:09 PM
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13. Well you will change your mind after listening to Obama's guy, Axelrod
guaranteed
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 06:09 PM
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12. Does it really surprise you though?
This shit gets old. Really old.
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DemKR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 06:10 PM
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14. I agree with you, Obama should be ashamed
Rovian tactics have no place in the Dem party
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 06:11 PM
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as ashamed as Hillary i presume
really fucking disgusting from both camps. they should both be ashamed. :puke:
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 06:11 PM
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19. Um....
The OP's point flew right by you, didn't it?
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 06:11 PM
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21. which is precisely what you personally are doing.
enough already.
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racaulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 06:13 PM
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22. Case and point.
Thank you.

:eyes:
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 06:13 PM
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23. Wow. Turds CAN type.
Amazing.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 06:15 PM
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26. She's dead
She deserves better than your playing political games over her body. It's pretty shameful
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Andromeda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 11:13 PM
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53. You mean you didn't hear Axlerod today?
Edited on Thu Dec-27-07 11:22 PM by Andromeda
It appears that your candidate was the one trying to make political hay when he blamed Hillary for Bhutto's assassination. Said her IWR vote was direct cause and effect to Bhutto's death.

That was a disgusting thing for the Obama campaign to say and it shows that Obama can say anything he wants to and he'll never have to answer for it.

Obama can say anything he damn well pleases and when asked about it by Wolf Blitzer on CNN he starts spinning what Axlerod said and rudely interupted Blitzer when Wolf started to read Axlewood's comments. Obama didn't want anybody to hear what Axlerod said and that's understandable because Axlerod is a dickwad. If Hillary tried to do that she'd be swarmed by Obamabats trying to suck her blood.

Try to be a bit more balanced in your comments instead of going off on everybody not supporting Obama. Posts against Axlerod's outrageous comments are going to increase because a lot of people are pissed off about it, as well they should be.

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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 12:59 AM
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59. Cali's not an Obama fan
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 06:11 PM
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18. If you want to win like Nixon, you gotta BECOME Nixon
Pretty fucking pathetic, isn't it.
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 06:11 PM
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20. I don't care, I'm pissed off
Edited on Thu Dec-27-07 06:12 PM by killbotfactory
The Iraq war distracted us from the fight against the VERY SAME PEOPLE who committed this assassination, and we KNEW a stonger, resurgent AL-Qaeda would be the result. WE KNEW IT!

This is like Huckabee pardoning that murdering rapist, despite the pleas of the victims, only to watch him murder and rape again. Only this is a thousand times worse. This stupid Iraq is a monumental fuck up, and every new day proves it.

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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 06:13 PM
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24. All I could think of, looking at her picture, is what a beautiful woman she
was. Her husband and family must be devestated. MSN has a beautiful pic of her on their homepage. The top tier have disgusted me for quite some time, today was the straw that broke...
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 06:45 PM
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45. She was very beautiful and god knows she was incredibly
brave. I look forward, as much as one can at this time, to reading the book she just finished writing.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 06:14 PM
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25. You're right, Axelrod is an idiot. nt
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 06:18 PM
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30. how sad that you're intent
on illustrating my point. Just fucking sad. I'm listening to this guy Segal on NPR who was working on a book with her and was a close friend of hers. His voice is thick with grief. I don't know why I'm telling you this. You don't give a fuck.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 06:20 PM
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34. self delete
Edited on Thu Dec-27-07 06:22 PM by 2rth2pwr
not worth it.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 06:17 PM
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28. With all due respect, cali..
You offered one of the first threads regarding the potential political fallout of this tragic event...this morning.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=3891982
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 06:20 PM
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32. with all due respect,
I hardly pitted one candidate against another. And I was thinking of the repukes, and Rudy in particular. I was concerned about this being used by the repukes. I wasn't using it the way others have done to bash a candidate. Sorry you can't see the difference.
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 06:17 PM
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29. Agreed. n/t
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 06:18 PM
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31. Not fair Blitzer asked Axelrod a question and he answered. It's you that are politicizing her death
Edited on Thu Dec-27-07 06:21 PM by Dems Will Win
with this thread.

And in fact, Axelrod was right. Hillary voting for the Iraq War was the wrong call, and going to Iraq is what doomed the war in Afghanistan, let OBL and extremists free to roam in Pakistan, and now those extremists or maybe the ISI itself killed Bhutto.

Hillary didn't give that much weight however, she instead listened to Condi Rice, who convinced her to vote YES, and to husband Bill, who was counseling her to vote YES as well. She gave almighty power to Dick Cheney and now says she was deceived? Give me a break!

Not a good day for Hillary today as it will bring up her vote for war in Iraq in the last 7 days. Really quite a disaster, for her and Edwards, as he co-sponsored the whole mess.

If Axelrod had not said what he said, the MSM would be all "Oh now we really need Hillary" -- so good that Obama gets the truthful meme out there, that she voted for the wrong war, and mostly because of that Pakistan is still unstable.

Let's not forget either that Bill Clinton let Mushareff take control of Pakistan in 1999 and kick Sharif and Bhutto out without a big fuss, so really it's his fault too Pakistan is in the current mess.

Now the voters will decide.
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 06:20 PM
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33. wait a minute: why are you blaming only Clinton? Every candidate
except Kucinich voted for IWR.

And Obama--admitted he did not know if he would have voted for it--and has voted for every Iraq funding since.

So, this is a bunch of BS.

Clinton took the high road, and Axelrod attempted to blame Clinton and let his guy get off without accountability for his actions.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 06:23 PM
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36. I don't care what you're taliking about. I haven't read these threads
but for the titles. I don't care about which candidate it was good day for. I don't care about Axelrod, whoever he is. I don't care about Hillary. I don't care about Obama. I'm just sad about the events of this day, and worried that the repuke candidates will use it to spread the whole terror, terror, terror meme.

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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 06:27 PM
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38. Nah, terror and fear don't work anymore
Whatever happened to the terror alerts and code red? Hope is the name of the day.

You'll get used to it.

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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 06:29 PM
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39. bless your dignified soul. and this from an agnostic.
thank you.
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Andromeda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 12:49 AM
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58. What has your being an agnostic
Edited on Fri Dec-28-07 12:53 AM by Andromeda
got to do with anything? What a strange thing to say.

Note: you don't have to be a Christian to believe in a "soul" or say the word "bless."
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 06:22 PM
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35. My favorite part was when the Obamites claimed Clinton had done it. Who saw that coming, right?
Edited on Thu Dec-27-07 06:22 PM by Perry Logan
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 06:24 PM
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37. I don't give a fuck Perry. I'm much more concerned about the
events in Pakistan.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 06:30 PM
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 09:14 PM
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49. Nobody claimed Clinton had done it
You guys made that up, that was the most disgusting part.
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alteredstate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 11:40 PM
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56. Bullshit
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calteacherguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 06:29 PM
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40. I'm disgusted too, Cali. nt
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 06:55 PM
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47. that is rich.
Edited on Thu Dec-27-07 07:19 PM by Evergreen Emerald
You swear at me and call me names and then post a thread condeming me personally, and you have the nerve to complain about DU. You and your cohorts are most of the problem.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 09:36 PM
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50. He is a sad hypocrite and pathetic phony
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calteacherguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 11:19 PM
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55. You deserved it.
You claimed a man had blamed Hilllary Clinton for murder. You're lucky that in politics anything goes, because in a civil court that's called libel.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 04:05 AM
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61. To those on the outside him and his cohorts seem just like you and your cohorts.
I know both sides are sure of their righteousness and superiority over the other, but the two groups are mirror images of one another. You act just like they do, and they act just like you do.

It's a funny ole world.
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democrank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 06:32 PM
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44. A sad, tragic day.
May she rest in peace.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 06:52 PM
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46. Yes... I have never alerted more on posts today...
Disgusting attempts at "humor" that pair Bhutto's tragic sacrifice today with the tiger attack or accuses any one of a number of current Dem candidates as having killed her.

The best chance for stability and a sense of democracy her people had, taken away and all some DUers can do is mock..... I am damned depressed...
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 09:13 PM
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 11:06 PM
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51. The name says it all. This is a general discussion forum for POLITICS
Not hugs and kisses. While it's sad that Mrs. Bhutto was killed, if there is any place that political ramifications should be talked about it, it is in this forum.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 11:10 PM
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52. Yep.
You're definitely hot hugs and kisses.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 08:34 AM
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62. If I had a nickle for everytime someone told me I was "hot hugs and kisses'
I'd be rich.
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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-27-07 11:45 PM
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57. Then spend time elsewhere. I mean, you could have started a thread
about the events today in Pakistan; instead you went meta.

The primary war bores me now. I simply no longer care about it. It's the ideas and issues that interest me.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-28-07 01:04 AM
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60. I wish to interject something here. It has been a tragic day...
assassination should never be taken lightly, and in the case Bhutto, there could be worldwide ramifications. I do not think it is a bad idea to show some respect for someone who might have poured oil on the waters of discontent.

Some people have shown more respect for DU'ers pets that have died than they have for this intelligent and dignified woman...do we really want to look like the vermin that the R's are?

For those of you who seem to find fault with a thread that is trying to show respect, you need not post in this, or any other thread. On many occasions I have passed over threads that I do not particularly care for, it is called "discretion". I ask that people use such, and not try to make a bad situation even worse.

Thank you.
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