It's clear to me why Barack Obama has resorted to right-wing rhetoric

[DemKR]

He wants the moderate leaning republicans and independents to go caucus for him. The Des Moines Register confirms that if they do, he gets it.

That's why he has managed to bash Gore, Kerry, Kennedy, you name em....(oh yeah and Hillary/Edwards too).......The RWers like that.

[sonroadera]

1. Please stop posting this shit.

[Bitwit1234]

23. Well now....for the last 7 months since Obama's wife pushed him to run

Hillary bashing has been the norm on this site. They lie, they smear, they slur, they go back for 20 years and post stuff that is swiftboating but not true. Whitewater, Flowers (who got paid off to say she Bill's mistress) she killed cats. She used federal money to send out too many Christmas cards. And now...when someone posts something from a newspaper that to all intents and purposes about Obama is true.....you say stop...well Obama's Idolers started and it is about time Hillary people started to fight back. SO YOU PEOPLE STOP YOUR SHIT.

[NYCGirl]

26. You really should make an OP of that. It's good. NT

[mtnsnake]

28. Awesome!

:thumbsup:

[sonroadera]

33. "You people"

I am supporting someone other than Obama. Or are you saying "you people" because I am black?

[madrchsod]

39. you are not supporting hillary!

is`t it grand to have a conversation with someone who addresses you as "you people"? i know it wants me to engage in a meaningful dialog....:sarcasm:

[niceypoo]

34. This has been my main gripe against the Obama supporters on this board

The fact that they visciously attack Hillary Clinton and anybody who supports her (personally in a lot of cases) but they come unglued at the slightest criticism of their candidate. Very thin skinned.

[sniffa]

46. you should make this an OP

it's that awesome. :thumbsup:

[alteredstate]

47. Who killed cats?

Please tell me more.

[Capn Sunshine]

49. Oh really

what a pile. I never saw you or any other 44s around here until the beginning of 2007 when you all decided to pile in here and cram Hillary down our throats.

When you get called on it, you all pretend people are bashing you.

Fortunately the tone you set for your campaign has blown up in your faces as people see it's a bunch of arrogant self important SOBs who think they are on a "winner" and don't want to hear the train is about to roll to a stop.

People see through your BS. Lucky for you I respect some of the longtime DUers who support Hillary, and know they will support the eventual nominee. I'll be glad when you all leave when she quits the race Feb 8.

[mahina]

55. Seriously!

Waste of breath, waste of time, and it's false.

[alteredstate]

72. I'm still trying to find out

who killed cats.

[loveangelc]

2. blah blah blah blah

I thought you were in Iowa campaigning for Hillary?

[sniffa]

57. i thought so too

:shrug:

[Catch22Dem]

3. Do you get paid for this? (n/t)

[TeamJordan23]

4. weren't you going to be busy for a few days? nm

[dugggy]

5. Obama is merely refusing to be in any one group's pocket

He is showing statesman like qualities, so rare in politics today.
We have right wing party hacks and we have left wing party hacks.
Obama wants to be the president of ALL PEOPLE and end the grid lock
that is Washington.

[Bluestar]

9. Oh, please

[dugggy]

20. It is a GRIDLOCK in Washington NOW! Look, we have the

majority in congress however small the margin is, we can't even
put a date for withdrawal of troops from Iraq. Obama wants to work
with both sides of the isle. That is the only way anything meaningful
will get done.

[Bluestar]

40. To believe that ANY politician is interested in anything besides

getting elected, staying elected and raising money is idealistic and naive.

He puts this stuff out there to position himself as the "change" candidate--what else can he run on? When he gets in office he will do whatever he wants--and based on some of the statements he has made lately, that is a bit scary.

[dugggy]

43. I hope everyone is not as cynical n/t

[Sulawesi]

50. We're not, go dugggy!

[Jim Sagle]

29. What he's refusing to be is an actual Democrat. Fuck'm.

[dugggy]

32. How can you say that? Have you even read his positions on

various issues?

[MadBadger]

6. Ruff Ruff!!

[surfermaw]

7. I still wonder which dem is getting republican money?

[dugggy]

22. You have any proof of that or are you in the habit

of throwing out outrageous statements without any evidence?

[mtnsnake]

8. I still can't believe how he ran our candidates from 2000 & 2004 down like that. nt

[JDPriestly]

10. Obama will probably regret what he is saying in these regards.

Remorse is painful, but part of the learning process sometimes.

[dugggy]

25. The only people who will regret are the special interest groups

after Obama wins the White House. No one owns him. Not
even Unions.

[polichick]

11. Don't know about the right-wing rhetoric, but...

He does seem to be going for the votes of moderate Reps. and indies ~ and the "unity" message plays right into that.

Problem is, he doesn't appear to be "united" with his own party.

[sandnsea]

12. I thought nobody would vote for a black man

What happened to that?

[journalist3072]

13. I think you make an extremely valid argument there. eom

[JI7]

14. fucking pathetic

[AtomicKitten]

15. Live-blogging from Iowa?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3918964

I thought you were campaigning in Iowa; you can slam Obama from the comfort of your home.

Oh, on edit, Obama commented that the Democrats did not garner 50% of the vote in 2000 and 2004 placing the elections within stealing distance (and they were stolen). That is a fact and not anywhere in the ballpark of a slam against either Gore or Kerry. Better luck next diss.

[patrice]

16. Could you please post links, so we can be the judge of that? nt

[DemKR]

17. how about a video of the ted kennedy bashing?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlvJ8bA6_xA

[patrice]

27. He said Ted is old and Ted should stand up to Republicans.

Not exactly excoriating stuff. I respect TK. He IS old and he does stand up to Republicans from time to time, but it would be GOOD to see him do more of that. So Obama was counting coup on Kennedy, in order to show his supposed independence. I can take that for what it is, which isn't a whole lot.

Is that all you've got?

[desi]

18. Please, please I beg of you.

[peoli]

19. that is actually kind of funny for a few seconds. good effort.

[tammywammy]

21. What an insightful post

:eyes:

[gristy]

24. What right wing rhetoric?

When I saw your thread title I hungrily clicked on it, and was surprised and disappointed when I did not see a clear summary of of Obama's usage of right wing rhetoric. I mean, when one makes a statement such as yours in a thread title, any reasonable person such as yourself would surely include plenty of examples, and even contrast the language he uses with that of his competitors. Was this an oversight on your part?

:sarcasm:

[DemKR]

30. such as "nobody does it better than joe lieberman", ted kennedy is "spineless," "tea" , and "trial

lawyer"

[alteredstate]

31. Please let us see the "right-wing rhetoric"

[DemKR]

35. watch the youtube video...go to the blogs..look around on any non obama website. Kos founders, MyDD,

Atrios have slammed him.

[alteredstate]

37. You brought it up --- you prove it.

[madrchsod]

38. kos ---mydd ....... "on any other non obama website".......

:rofl:

[DemKR]

53. yes, this may come as a shock to you, but pro-obama will always spin toward him

[madrchsod]

36. what the fuck is wrong with independents?

what candidate in the republican party is a moderate? so if there`s no moderate republican to vote for then why not a democrat...oh i forgot it`s all about the purity of the party is`t it comrade....

[IndianaJones]

41. wrong. nt.

[ecstatic]

42. I thought you were headed to Iowa?

Back soooooo soon?

[Diane R]

44. Are you going to spend the next two days posting negative threads about Obama?

[superkia]

45. Why has DU turned into a copy of the main stream media?

I only see posts like this on DU anymore, where are the people that post about why they support their candidate? You should check this video out.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2568272

[City Lights]

51. Maybe the campaigns have paid people to post here...

:shrug:

[superkia]

52. I guess they could do that to try and keep normal people from...

talking about the facts and issues at hand. Didn't think of it that way.

[alteredstate]

61. No one's paying the OP

[Name removed]

48. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[mtnsnake]

56. Tough shit

Who the fuck are you to be giving all this free advice to someone who's stuck up for Clinton and defended her with the best of them from the ongoing lies, innuendo, insults, and propaganda that have been spewn her way for years on this forum.

Too dam bad for you if a certain candidate's supporter offends your virgin ears.

[Azathoth]

63. Yup, he's done a good job posting push-polls, no doubt about that

Hillaryites must be proud.

[Sulawesi]

64. *sigh*

[Catherine Vincent]

58. Do you notice that from the other side?

DemKR is throwing back what's been thrown at Hillary supporters.

[Sulawesi]

65. Well, as I said...

I am new to the forum. But I will say that I refuse to accept your logic, which would dictate that when it comes to mindless (often profane) attacks on my candidate, that I should reciprocate. No thanks, not my style.

[Catherine Vincent]

73. Well it's very telling that you only notice it from a Hillary supporter.

Even though you are new.

Welcome to DU, btw.

[Sulawesi]

74. What does it tell you?

[tammywammy]

59. Welcome to DU!

There are quite a few nasty posters, that just post straight up flamebait. There are some that supposedly support Obama, Hillary and Edwards that do it. You'll figure out who all is doing it, and then do as I do, laugh it off. It's all silly. Hopefully it'll start to settle down in a few weeks.

[Sulawesi]

67. I can see that, thanks for the welcome...

...i dont take offense being flamed, but I do not understand how people think it is effective.

[tammywammy]

69. I agree, I don't understand it either

It's not effective. The people that come on to DU aren't going to be swayed by these types of posts, at least in my opinion. To some, it's like they can't even say anything just plain nice about the other candidates. Hey, if there's a nice pic of Hillary, I'm gonna say "that's a nice pic." And if they're slamming someone for something stupid, I'm gonna say that's stupid too.

But then again, my mom always said you win more with honey than with vinegar. :)

[alteredstate]

62. Yeah, welcome to DU!

[Sulawesi]

68. thanks!

[zulchzulu]

54. You're confused...

You might be referring to moderate leaning Republicans and Independents in New Hampshire to vote for him. Last I checked, they are voters who can participate in the election process in New Hampshire, which is not a caucus.

I hope this isn't over your head.

If moderate leaning Republicans and Independents want to caucus for Obama in Iowa, they need to change their party affiliation to Democrat before doing so.

As for Obama and his appeal to moderate leaning Republicans and Independents, that's a good thing. Maybe you didn't figure that out yet either.

[DemKR]

60. why does he appeal? because hes a DINO nt

[zulchzulu]

71. So how is Obama a DINO?

Give me a list of three points if you can put your crack pipe down for a minute or two...

[Sultana]

66. And Hill has resorted to being right-wing

:eyes:

[FrenchieCat]

70. You wear a Hillary Avatar, but are really an Edwards supporter.....

it appears.

[BenDavid]

75. You are correct but those right leaning independents will be

more concerned about their republican candidate then to jump over to help out a dem.....It will be close but HRC will have a narrow victory but a win is a win is a win. It will be key because for two weeks now the msm has just about gone on record that obama or edwards would win.....Oh those msmediawhores.....

[Czolgosz]

76. recommended