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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 03:35 PM
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NY Times: “It’s Not Just About Change Or About Experience. It’s So Much More Than That.”


Jan. 2: Speaking Tuesday at the Raccoon River Brewing Company in Des Moines, here is a portion of Senator Biden’s remarks as recorded and transcribed by The New York Times:.






“But folks, it’s not about change or about experience. It’s about action. Action. Because, ladies and gentlemen, the next president of the United States is going to have no time. Unlike any other president, any other transfer of power, when the baton is handed from George Bush to the next president, you don’t have to imagine what the crises are that the next president of the United States is going to face. You know what they are.

“Here is my final plea.

“I want all the caucusgoers in this great state to close their eyes and imagine: If their candidate is president of the United States, not in a year but this very instant, are they confident that they have the sure-footedness, the steady enough hand to know exactly what they would do in Pakistan? To know exactly what they would do — not generically — exactly what they would do in Iraq? Exactly what they would do with the totalitarian tilt of Putin? Know exactly what they would do this moment where the relationship with China is fraying in a way that could become dangerous? Are they ready? Are they smarter than their secretary of state?


“Because, ladies and gentlemen, they are going to have to act.”


http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/02/us/politics/02bwords.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
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annie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 03:41 PM
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1. How in the heck in this guy running 4th and 5th. ? why?
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 03:44 PM
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2. Tomorrow we will find out the truth.
About the polls - they don't include the second tier in many of the polls.
They lump them all together and call them "other". That's why alot of Bidenites, and hopefully Richardson's supporters, and the Dodd Squad don't put alot of credence in these polls. Unfortunately, Kucinich believed them.
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 03:48 PM
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3. Because, unfortunately, most people are superficial
and easily swayed by hype.
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 04:21 PM
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7. because he reminds people of Kerry
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alteredstate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 06:07 PM
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13. I've never understood why Biden doesn't score higher with voters.
I hope he does well tomorrow night.
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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 03:49 PM
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4. And there you have the tone of the Repugs in the election.
We need a strong military man, a man that can act in a moment to launch a war, any war, anywhere. They are out to get us and we must strike hard and fast and you want some one like John McCain to protect us from all that evil.
Forget abut all that domestic shit. The Tallaban boogie Man is hiding behind that tree.
Meet the new boss
Similar to the old boss.
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Jillian Donating Member (577 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 03:51 PM
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5. And this is all just going to go away?
A new President will get elected, and then **poof** all the problems will just go away?

Man - must be some pretty good stuff.
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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 04:20 PM
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6. No it will not go away
But the greatest threat to this country is not Islam or even Russia with it's nuclear weapons, they are no more likely to attack us now than they were during the cold war and for the same reasons.
The greatest threat to this country is internal. We are tearing ourselves apart and selling the pieces to the highest bidder (well not even the highest sometimes. So a foreign enemy must only wait and buy up the American pieces and we are through as a sovereign nation.
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 04:24 PM
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8. Let me guess...
you support Kooch, right?

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zeemike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 09:28 AM
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14. No Edwards. n/t
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 09:29 AM
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15. Figures.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 09:41 AM
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16. Having a plan doesn't mean threats, or force, or militarism.
READ his plans before you judge - they're all in the interest of peace. EVERY candidate was clamoring to come up with a Pakistan policy after Bhutto, when Biden published his weeks before the Musharraf coup.

Granted, Pakistan is more of a threat to India, and Putin is more of a threat to his own people, but these events affect the US, just like our events affect them. It's all interrelated. You can't be an isolationist, and you shouldn't just react to things after they happen. You have to have a policy going in to be credible and hopefully do some good to prevent the shit from hitting the fan. You can be tough and fair, and you MUST be quick and consistent.
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Jane Austin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 04:50 PM
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9. With me, it's because I can't get that image of him mugging in a baseball cap,
wasting his ten minutes of questioning time in the Judiciary Committee, when he could have spent that time just NAILING Alito on his position on the expansion of Presidential Power.

His views on foreign policy issues are valuable, but he lost me right then and there.

I was watching those hearings at home, and hot tears just sprang from my eyes when I saw him wasting that onece-in-a-lifetime opportunity to prevent Alito from getting on the Supreme Court.

He had an opportunity that few others could ever had - and he wasted it.

And we got Alito - for the next 30 years.
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 05:46 PM
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11. Well, we could have had BORK too.... had it not been for Joe....
and Alito doesn't even hold a candle to Bork.

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Flabbergasted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 05:43 PM
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10. kr
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-02-08 06:02 PM
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12. Amazing They Woud Write This & Hire Kristol
in the same week.

"We are thrilled to add Bill Kristol's distinctive voice to our Op-Ed page," said Andrew Rosenthal, editorial page editor. "He is a captivating writer and keen observer of the political landscape. His work will undoubtedly be provocative in this election year." http://www.investors.com/breakingnews.asp?journalid=65713511


Adding, he's a “serious, respected conservative intellectual"
The New York Times on Kristol Meth.
http://wonkette.com/339145/so-the-nyt-hires-bill-kristol-and-were-intolerant

I fired off an e-mail to the times. Shame is upon them again.
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