Obama has Bushies and long term Repukes as Precinct Captains???

[NMDemDist2]

:wtf:

this according to Andrea Mitchell on Hardball

:mad:

[LaurenG]

1. That's going to blow it for me if it's true.

I won't trust him any more should this turn out to be non accidental. Or he better have a very good reason.

[NMDemDist2]

4. according to Andrea Mitchell Obama has been courting Republicans and Independents

to sign up as Dems and caucus for him.

I had read this on DU a week or so ago but the woman Andrea Mitchell quoted was a "life long Republican who voted twice for George Bush"

if this is who is voting for OUR Democratic nominee IMO, Iowa's caucus doesn't mean chit.

How can we trust these turn coat Repukes not to get back into the fold for the General Election?

I know that for YEARS I was a registered Republican ONLY so I could vote in their primaries and then I'd always vote Democratic in the General

This stinks of KKK Rove to me........

[LaurenG]

18. I do not trust anyone who is a registered republican to have anything

to do with my vote. (I'm not talking about the way you did it)

Blackwell screwed Ohio and Warren County declared a bomb threat the last election so they could "count" the votes without witnesses. I have been burned too many times to think this is OK in any way and I don't trust any republican as far as I can throw them. (they can blame that on Bush, Falwell, Blackwell Cheney etc. for that.)

[NYCGirl]

22. What if they're no longer a registered Republican? Or are they outcasts for life?

[LaurenG]

27. No, but this is way too sensitive right now.

Why can't a precinct captain be at least a 2 term democrat? That would make it easier to trust them.


Maybe being burned so badly by the evil that they did has made me bitter, alarms are going off big time over this one for me.

I was actually undecided between three of them but this will definitely take Obama off my primary vote.

[NYCGirl]

28. Do they have to take a loyalty oath, too? NT

[LaurenG]

29. They have to be smarter than to have ever voted for Bush

as far as I'm concerned Bush was transparent and it took nothing to do a little digging to see that. In fact when Bush fuc*** McCain over in 2000 it was obvious that the man had NO integrity.

So no, no loyalty oath because it wouldn't be good enough for me.

[TeamJordan23]

30. I am sorry, but I have to say this

I am totally dumbfounded by your lack of rationality. So you are criticizing Obama because two ex-GOPers have been disappointed with Bush, are crossing over to become Dems and helping Obama. As a Democrat, this is a good thing for the party.

Yes, Bush has done a lot of bad things, but I can guarantee that most people do not pay attention to politics daily or in detail to know everything that is going on in Washington DC. Instead, they focus on their lives and the lack of satisfaction.

Hillary, herself was a Republican in college until she converted over. And now she is running for President of the Dem Party.

I am an Obama supporter and I will not miss your vote one bit. The lack of rationality in your argument to vote against Obama makes me more concerned about the type of people in the Dem party than the people across the aisle.

[madrchsod]

31. good god--don`t mention hillary was a republican

from a slightly upper middle class family in a suburb of chicago. by the logic used by many here- once a republican-always a republican... so hillary is a republican!

[TeamJordan23]

33. Never said that.....but to show people can change. Jim Webb was Repub until recenlty.

And I have no problem with it.

[madrchsod]

99. i`m kidding....i have no trouble either when no matter who they are

finally see the light. i`d say jim has been doing a good job-

[LaurenG]

35. Ah bullshit. I was a republican once. Your straw man and perceived notions are just crap.

[madrchsod]

100. i was kidding...or a poor attempt at sarcasm

[LaurenG]

101. I'm sorry about this whole thing. I think I was too wound up and I apologize for

going off the deep end. Some days I wonder how I'm going to get through this primary season with a shred of self respect left...

[madrchsod]

102. yup!

[LaurenG]

34. You shall have to remain dumbfounded then

I will vote for someone else unless someone can give me a very good reason why he'd choose a bushie, (if this is true).

I think that you may be a bit prejudiced in your thinking and could say right back to you what you have just said to me but I won't and perhaps you should realize that this is the big tent, not the Obama tent, good luck in trusting those across the isle...

[TeamJordan23]

38. Maybe because its a republican precinct?

And you don't have to trust all those across all the aisle. But not all Repubs are bad. I have family members and friends who I know are Repubs, but yet, I can find common ground with them because they are rational.

Maybe I am an idealist like Obama, but I just believe most Americans are different than the right-wing nuts that you see or hear about on TV.

[enough already]

80. Ridiculous

I'll take anyone who has seen the light after 8 years of the fucking Chimp.

[LaurenG]

84. Are there no democrats to fill the positions?

I don't think it was a good thing to have done. I am glad that they are finally seeing the light but I'm not happy that they will be that close to any voters. And yes I realize they may be good Obama supporters but I'd be much more comfortable with a democrat. I'm not quite ready to just trust blindly, not after the hell we have gone through because people on that side were either all about their money or their religion or both.

[OKNancy]

61. around here they are, just ask Wes Clark

oh, and I love the Goldwater Girl (40 years ago) smear.

However, in this case, it is kind of stinky IMO.

[laugle]

40. You are right....it does sound like

BO is taking advice from Rove.

I can't believe that people are trusting BO, he seems so transparent to many of us. He will do whatever he needs to do to win the primary, and that's exactly what the rethugs want. The rethugs know that their only chance of winning is to help Obama win the primary.

The rethugs would destroy him. The one think they are good at is the divide and conquer strategy and BO would give them the most ammunition, IMO!

[indimuse]

78. On Stephanie Miller yesterday she said he was using REPUBLICAN servers as well.

:argh:

[Stop Cornyn]

36. You can't be surprised. Obama talks all kind of shit about the "partisan" Democrats in his book "The

Audacity of Hope"

[panader0]

48. Why? Wasn't Hillary a repug in her youth?

[OKNancy]

62. see, there you go with that crap..

in her youth she couldn't vote ( voting age was 21) so who the hell cares what her father was.

[Little Star]

2. Say what? n/t

[TeamJordan23]

3. LOL. Two ex-GOPers decide to be Obama supporters in a Repub precint and you attack Obama for it?

I don't know about you, but if people are coming to our side...IT IS A GOOD THING.

[NMDemDist2]

5. two?

how do you know it's only two?

My concern is that they won't stay Democrats in the General election if BHO isn't the candidate. I did that for years, voted in the Repuke primary then always voted Democratic in the General. My thinking was I'd vote for the weakest Repuke (or the most moderate one) and then vote my heart in the General

[TeamJordan23]

12. Your reasoning is flawed.

Obama will be the candidate. Haha. JK

But in all reality, who cares if they decide to not for the Dem in the General Election? It would have been that way if they didn't support BO and stayed home tomorrow and Obama does not win, will it have any negative effect on the GE? No.

But lets assume BO wins and is the candidate and now we have +2 votes in the General Election. I hope its more than just two, but its nice to see that our party can pick up Repubs. This just goes to show that Obama is the most electable Dem.

Also, are people not allowed to switch their party? Jim Webb was a lifelong Republican until recently. And now people love him....although I am not one of them

[hedgehog]

64. Have you looked at the Republican field? If you're a Republican,

unless you're an Evangelical convinced we need to elect a National Pastor (and not all Evangelicals are so convinced), you may be ready to slit your wrists about now. We need to win this, and we need to win big to ensure our win isn't stolen. We're going to need people who voted for Bush last time around.

BTW - have you considered the possibility that Obama may be changing people's minds about what needs to be done for this country?

[NYCGirl]

6. I like FORMER Republicans. There should be more of them. NT

[T Wolf]

9. Not when they are repugs. This is an example if the "bipartisanship" that

indicates that Obama is not the kins of Democrat that we need in office.

What we need is a liberal/progressive who will undo the rightward shift that has done so much damage. Bringing the enemy into your camp can only lead to selling out the principles that progressives are supposed (IMO) to have.

His whole "unity" theme is an signal to the repugs and the DLC/corporatists that he will not rock the boat, but continue the rightward descent to fascism.

That is NOT what we need.




edited for typos in the dark

[Vincardog]

20. Ding Ding Ding we have a winner. We do not need anybody to reach across the isle

with anything but a subpoena or a base ball bat.

[Cass]

32. You have a way with words, Vincardog.

:evilgrin:

I agree with you 100%

[laugle]

41. LOL......and a nice quiet JAIL CELL!!!!

[mckeown1128]

58. It is irrational statements like yours that...

lead to more partisanship. If we can get republicans to cross over and sign up as Democrats what is the problem with that. Obama is only making our party stronger.

[Vincardog]

59. We do not need more Republicans in the Democratic party. We need more Progressive Pupulist

Democratic candidates elected. Partisanship is what we need. You can not compromise with the radical Reich. We have tried for 30 years and it got us BusHitler.Is that what you want for our party?
WE need a strong leader who is willing and able to institute major reforms stripping parasitic corporations of their power. Obama promising to play nice with the criminals does not go far enough at all in taking us in the direction we have to go.

[Cameron27]

63. For those of us who don't describe

our 2 term battle with the bush RWingers as a "food fight," compromise is unthinkable at this point.

[mckeown1128]

68. the majority of republicans are not Hitler supporters as

you make them out to be. By the way Obama hasn't compromised on any progressive values...he has just convinced some republicans to vote for him. Kind of like how Reagan convinced Democrats to do.

[Vincardog]

98. The majority of the elected republicans are Hitler supporters where have you been for the last 20 yr

[NMDemDist2]

46. yeah, that's my other concern.... n/t

[Cameron27]

52. I've been getting that same indication,

and I don't like it.

[DURHAM D]

7. No surprise -

My BIL told me that he and all of his coffee drinking buddies are going to vote for Obama in the primary. He has never voted for a Dem in his life. When I asked why - he indicated that they are afraid that if they don't get involved Hillary will be the nominee and might become President. If she becomes President they think she will be vindictive and go after the Bushes and the criminal elements of the Repub party.

I asked him if he or any of his buddies would vote for Obama in the general he laughed at me and said of course not, I will vote a straight Repub ticket.

[NYCGirl]

8. They needn't worry. The Clintons will never go after the Bushes. NT

[TeamJordan23]

16. Didn't Bill want to go travel the world with Bush 41 once Hillary becomes Pres.? nm

[NYCGirl]

24. Yes. NT

[emilyg]

55. None of them will.

[Vincardog]

25. They are afraid that Hill will go after jr like Bill went after GHWB? HA HA

That is so funny. Remember Iran Contra? Remember BCCI? Remember how Big Bill wanted to heal and get beyond them? Hill offers the same cover up and that is why she must not be our candidate.

[laugle]

42. You are exactly right! It's shocking to me that dems

who support BO would fall for this treacherous plot....it's as though people have not learned a lesson from the last 7 years.

Hillary was right about BO--he is naive to think that he can count of rethug support in the GE! They only care about power for themselves and that means winning for their party--not ours!!

[jefferson_dem]

10. It's a beautiful thing!

Converts from the Dark Side are more than welcome... :bounce:

[elizm]

17. And the way we will win in 2008 by a landslide!

:toast:

[jefferson_dem]

23. Indeed!

Some people mystify me. I mean...do we want to win, or what...?

:toast:

[laugle]

44. Of course we want to win--we just don't trust the rethugs! Geez...

you don't really fall for this "UNITER" crap?

[Cha]

11. Yeah, why doncha

get all hyper about what the mediawhores say?

[Bitwit1234]

13. I guess he learned from Liberman

remember he got republican support and catered to the republicans to get their vote. That's why I don't think there should be cross over voting. Not only this, look, suppose we had some piece of crap like Thompson running in the Democratic party. Then the republicans could cross over and vote for them to get them the nomination. Knowing full well democrats would stay home rather than vote. I think if you are a democrat vote in the democratic party primary. If you are republican, or independent you can only vote for a republican or independent only.

[whatdoyouthink]

14. I,m Starting to see Why

Of the Big Three - he would be there best Bet

I would think Because of Experience, but most likely they think because of his (sic) race

[jefferson_dem]

19. "They"? "Race"?

Wha?

[Gman]

15. Makes a lot of sense

[bigdarryl]

21. FUCK MITCHELL!!! shes rooting for Hillary as well

[NYCGirl]

26. BTW, Andrea Mitchell only mentioned ONE person, who is no longer a Republican.

(Hillary Clinton was President of Wellesley's College Republicans once. I won't hold that against her.)

[Yael]

37. This will be my first election as a registered Democrat. There is no way in hell

I would try to be a Captain or even a Delegate. I haven't earned that right from my (now) fellow party members.

Fortunately here -- you have to have 250 sigs on your delegate application. I would think that some length of volunteer work and activism should come into play. I am making up for lost time, and wouldn't DREAM of taking a role like that from a party loyalist.

Just my ever so humble opinion as a former (R). I am just glad you all will have me. I have much to make up for.

[sniffa]

39. you should rethink Hillary

seriously

[NMDemDist2]

43. huh?

My favorites change daily between Hillary, Edwards and Biden

I am truly undecided.

[sniffa]

47. sorry, i didn't mean to pidgeon hole you like that

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=334x251

[NMDemDist2]

49. ROFL, dude

did you notice I'm a woman?

and did you notice I did the same thing in the Biden group a while later?

I refuse to be held to a momentary exuberance that happened over 4 months ago and for ONE post in a candidate forum....

:rofl:

[sniffa]

51. sorry

if you like, i can track down other posts.

but i won't, and i'm done.

[NMDemDist2]

53. whoa

guess you caught me

I've always said nice things about Hillary

And Edwards

And Biden

and Dodd too

and it's true I've never really understood Obamania

and I've never been real thrilled with Richardson either

guess that means I'm not a Democrat? or what? I don't know what you're trying to say here sniffa

and PS, say hi to BiBabe m'kay?

[sniffa]

56. i never said you weren't a Democrat

if you weren't i wouldn't care; i'm not one either.

and i apologize - you're not a Hillary person... though i hope you rethink even considering her.

and done. :hi:

[ronnykmarshall]

45. Andrea Mitchell?

My 5 cats can make less shit than she can.

[JDPriestly]

50. Another reason to vote for Edwards.

He knows what side he is on. Anyone who voted for George W. Bush is either gullible or greedy.

If the Republican has actually changed his or her registration to Democratic and voted Democratic in the last election, then maybe OK. Otherwise, I think that there are enough Democrats to fill the positions of leadership in the Democratic Party. Republicans are welcome to become Democrats, but they shouldn't pretend to be Democrats, and I'm wondering what is going on in these cases.

[TeamJordan23]

57. Yeah, its okay to co-sponsor the Iraq War bill for George W. Bush, right? nm

[JDPriestly]

60. I trusted Colin Powell and also favored the invasion of Iraq.

I don't judge Edwards so harshly for his mistake because I made the same mistake. I could not believe that any modern American president would dare to start a war without sufficient cause. I thought the lesson of LBJ would not be so quickly forgotten. I was wrong. I have been wrong before. Bush lied. Many Americans believed him. Many Americans were wrong. I was one of them. So was Edwards. We were fooled. That is probably one of the reasons that Edwards is so angry now. I know it is the major reason for my anger.

[readmoreoften]

70. Edwards just said on ABC tonight that he will pull the troops immediately.

He made a mistake. I hardly believe that Obama would've voted against the IWR if he was in office in 2002. He continues to fund the war.

[Divine Discontent]

72. I agree... we'll never know about '02, but he does continue to fund the war & that is not good n/t

[killbotfactory]

74. Yep, he would have been up there with Edwards

crowing about how dangerous Iraq is.

[loveangelc]

54. lol. the fact that people are angry about this is one of the silliest things ever.

[I was just saying...]

65. Uh huh! Obama, a 'Joe Lieberman' in Democratic clothing---

Lets' get it right this time, Either the Republicans invented Obama or Obama is ready to stoop as low as he can to win this thing. The question to ask is; Is Obama so infatuated with himself
that he would sell his own soul at this stage of the game? Stay tuned.

[NMDemDist2]

66. Welcome to DU Iwjs!!!

:hi:

I don't see how ANYBODY can win the presidency these days without selling off huge chunks of their soul along the way.

sad isn't it?

[DemKR]

67. its the anit-hillary republican strategy n/t

[readmoreoften]

71. Welcome to DU.

It just seems too paranoid to believe that Obama would be invented by the Republicans. But I fully believe he will pander to them and drive the party further to the right. He's about said as much, what with his attacks on Gore, Kerry, 70s liberalism, etc.

What is this "new way"? There's right. There's left. And that's what there is. There is no 'new way.'

Obama reminds me of the kind of person during a strike who lobbies for a "third way." The third way is always a massive concession to the management-- a company union, something with the veneer of a union but controlled by management. I won't vote for him.

[I was just saying...]

89. Obama is selling a box of hope.

Its in the developing stages. Its not a plan per se, just an idea. But it seems
that that's all you need these days...a pie in the sky plan so illusory that it doesn't
require specifics.

Thanks for the welcome.

[killbotfactory]

73. Yes, that's right, he's exactly like Lieberman!

They're kissin' cousins!

Keep it up! Don't be afraid to speak the truth!

[mckeown1128]

69. Wow... I guess we should purge republicans from voting

then we shoudl purge independents from voting for us(because they should already be dems), then we should purge those in the party that are not 100% progressive...then we will use the many, many votes left over to take back the country....only on DU would you have Democrats complaining that a candidate is convincing republicans to not only vote but to volunteer for Democratic presidential candidates. GEEZE!!!

[Perry Logan]

75. Definitely. Republicans are traitors, and America is in a state of civil war.

[mckeown1128]

79. No..republican voters are not traitors...

there leaders may be but they themselves think(wrongly) that they are voting correctly. Man, you are angry. Problems don't get solved through anger. That is a republican political tactic. We have to use reason and leave emotion out of it.

[indimuse]

76. and he's using REPUBLICAN servers!

:argh:

[Freddie Stubbs]

77. This shows that he will be able to reach out to Republicans in the General Election

[elizm]

81. We swept the 06 elections with Independents and crossover Republicans....

....Just what is it about winning that you have a problem with?? It is the only way either party can win.

[MethuenProgressive]

82. Just more DLC Triangulation from Obama - what's wrong with that?

:shrug:

[flpoljunkie]

83. This is how you win big in '08, not lose--or barely eke out a win with no mandate for change--just

endless and bitter partisan bickering with such a marginal victory.

[Czolgosz]

85. kick

[BigDDem]

86. Again, if this was Hillary using republicans this place would

blow up but since it's Saint BO - Welcome aboard!!

[Vickers]

87. I used to be a Repuke.

Much better now. :patriot:

[Robbins]

88. Hillary

Do people forget Hillary was once a republican and was for Goldwater.Say what you want about Bill
but he has always supported the Democrats.Wesley Clark voted for Nixon In 72,Reagan In 90,and 84,and Bush In 88.People can change.And Obama getting Republicans to support him and surviving
the clinton attack machine bodes well for a General election campaign.

[Cameron27]

93. Clinton was a republican 40 years ago,

and I'd like some links for all those assertions about Wes Clark. Clinton isn't the only politician with an attack machine in this Democratic primary, one that I'd like decided by registered members of our party.

Indy's and Republicans should be welcomed in the GE.

[Renew Deal]

90. How do we know the story is true? Also, how would Obama know who these people are?

There's no way for him to know.

[Bluebear]

91. Just like he didn't "know" he was hiring an ex-gay to MC his shows.

Ignorance is bliss.

[Renew Deal]

92. Have you ever worked in a campaign?

I have. There's no way to know who everyone is, even in the smallest campaigns.

[Bluebear]

94. He knew before the event & had time to make things right. He didn't.

But as a staff member said, "We got what we needed out of it."

[Renew Deal]

95. We're talking about separate things.

I'm talking about the Iowa thing. You're talking about McClurkin. I told you at the time that there would be no wide spread backlash and it was irrelevant in the greater scheme of things. I was correct about that.

[Bluebear]

96. Yeah i forget how easy it is to compartmentalize things

[Lurking Dem]

97. How the hell

does ONE WOMAN who hasn't liked a candidate since Reagan become Obama has Bushies and long term Repukes as Precinct Captains????

MITCHELL: All the candidates are relying on ground troops, precinct captains like Monica Green, a lifelong Republican, who twice voted for George Bush, now canvassing for Obama.

WOMAN, RESPONDING TO OBAMA CAPTAIN MONICA GREEN: We haven't fully decided. I think my husband will probably be John Edwards, and I am split, either Edwards or Obama.

MITCHELL, TO GREEN: What do your kids say to you?

MONICA GREEN, IOWA PRECINCT CAPTAIN: In the beginning, they would call me and say, "Who are you? You raised us to be Republicans. I don't understand." And I just keep saying, "Look at the problems in the world, and look at who you think is going to be able to solve these problems?"