Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

If any of you can stomach watching FAUX NEWS for a few seconds, you'll notice

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
 
Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 06:32 PM
Original message
If any of you can stomach watching FAUX NEWS for a few seconds, you'll notice
Edited on Thu Jan-03-08 06:34 PM by Seabiscuit
all their bobble heads fawning over Barack Obama supposedly overtaking Hillary in Iowa before the caucuses begin.

What does that tell you?

Obama's the darling of the reich wingers.

Why?

His record in the Senate, and his pandering to big corporate donors.

Not to mention the reich wing belief that no black American will ever become President in their lifetimes.

Sure, Hillary is the one they love to hate. But to them, Obama is just so, well... BEATABLE!

And if somehow he defies their world view and lands in the White House, well, in their view he'd be easy to manipulate because he's already halfway on his way to becoming a Republican, and he's naive enough to believe he can negotiate compromises with the Republicans.

In short, they promote him because they consider him a joke.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
HeraldSquare212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 06:33 PM
Response to Original message
1. Obama appeared on 5 of 6 morning shows - refused to do Fox
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 06:35 PM
Response to Reply #1
3. That's fine, but it has nothing to do with the OP.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
HeraldSquare212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 06:36 PM
Response to Reply #3
7. I didn't think the OP really needed a reply
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 06:38 PM
Response to Reply #7
9. Perhaps you should have saved yourself the trouble of replying, then.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 06:35 PM
Response to Original message
2. It's the same on MSNBC,
Matthews, Russert and Scarborough have been falling all over themselves pushing Obama.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 06:36 PM
Response to Reply #2
5. Don't forget CNN.
To me the shocker, though, is that Fox seems to be doing their best to beat out MSNBC and CNN in the Obama-fawning-fest.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
chascarrillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 06:35 PM
Response to Original message
4. They like him because he's a Republican and they can beat him
That makes so much sense, I'm surprised I didn't think of that before!

Go away. Thanks.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 06:36 PM
Response to Reply #4
6. Read much? No one said Obama is a Republican.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
gaiilonfong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 06:38 PM
Response to Reply #6
10. We know what the IMPLICATION is
Hello............. DU'ers aren't low-info voters!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
chascarrillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 06:39 PM
Response to Reply #6
15. "Obama's the darling of the reich wingers."
That's pretty clear as day to me.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 06:39 PM
Response to Reply #6
16. true, You only said he was halfway to becoming a republican
Obviously much much different. We all bow down in abject apology.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TheDebbieDee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 07:24 PM
Response to Reply #4
34. That's not FAIR! Sen. Obama is NOT a repuke..........
He's merely a repuke TOOL allowing himself to be used to prevent the more electable Sen. Edwards or Sen. Clinton from winning the nomination.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 06:37 PM
Response to Original message
8. What silly spin! Tony Auth hit the nail on the head, back in January regarding Hillary and the R's
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 06:39 PM
Response to Reply #8
12. I don't know about Fox,
but it ain't spin to say what's been happening on MSNBC.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 06:39 PM
Response to Reply #8
13. Yes, they've had fun doing that to Hillary for years. Now they're doing it with Obama.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 06:38 PM
Response to Original message
11. to the extent that they like him its because pandering to their audience is what Fox News does
and their audience really doesn't like HRC.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 06:40 PM
Response to Reply #11
18. They really don't like Obama either, because he's black and a Democrat.
They just think he's even more beatable than Hillary in the general election.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 06:45 PM
Response to Reply #18
23. They Like Him Because He's The Vehicle That They Think Can Beat Their Arch Enemy-A Clinton
That is something those cretins could never do on their own...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 06:46 PM
Response to Reply #18
24. so what are they saying about edwards? I don't watch fox news.
And, for that matter, how much of the Fox News audience would vote for any Democratic candidate, so what does it matter which one they tear down or build up?

FWIW -- my foxnews watching, rushbot father in law told my wife the other day that he has problems with all of the Democrats: HRC because, well, because he's been trained to dislike her for years; Obama because he doesn't think he has enough experience; and Edwards because he's a plaintiff's lawyer and my father in law is a doctor with a huge dislike of plaintiff's lawyers. On the repub side he really dislikes Huckabee (my father in law is not a fundie) because he thinks he's tax raising fake. He doesn't seem to have made up his mind between rudy and mitt, but he'll vote for either one of them over anyone the Democrat put up. I think he's a pretty typical Fox News viewer.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
greenman3610 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 06:39 PM
Response to Original message
14. wait, I though Hillary was annointed by the right since she was the beatable one
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Little Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 07:16 PM
Response to Reply #14
32. She was, but THEY think times have changed. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 06:40 PM
Response to Original message
17. Joe Trippi Said "Barack Obama Has Received Two Hundred Fifty Million Dollars Of Positive Press"
~
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 06:40 PM
Response to Original message
19. Obama is clearly the preferred candidate of the GOP
He's very obviously the one they're sure they can beat and I think they're absolutely correct. Rush and Hannity have been slobering all over Obama for weeks now.

I wrote this back in the middle of December on the topic: http://journals.democraticunderground.com/Gman/61
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
chascarrillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 06:42 PM
Response to Reply #19
20. They love him, so they want to vote against him
Brilliant logic! Please, do go on.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 06:44 PM
Response to Reply #20
21. It's not difficult to see RWers voting for him
in the primaries so they can tear him apart in the GE. I don't know if that's why they're voting for him or not, but it's a possibility.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
chascarrillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 06:50 PM
Response to Reply #21
25. Damned difficult for me
Seems to me that they'd stream in to vote for someone with much higher negatives like Clinton.

And yeah, Limbaugh has really been advocating for Obama.

:eyes:
:eyes:
:eyes:

Ridiculous. How naive do you think I am?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 07:27 PM
Response to Reply #25
36. I don't think you're naive
I think you're just too biased to believe that they'd only pull something like that for Clinton, someone who's successfully battled them before.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TeamJordan23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 06:45 PM
Response to Original message
22. Hannity and Buchanan predicted Hillary to be the nominee. nm
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 07:04 PM
Response to Original message
26. What they really think is.:: This is the Democrat we can take
out with ease in the General Election. If he can stop Hilary
then their job is easy. Take him out in General


I say the General will have HRC V J MCCain.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TheDebbieDee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 07:18 PM
Response to Reply #26
33. You are EXACTLY right!
He's the best candidate to keep both Sen. Clinton and Sen. Edwards from getting the nomination.

Sen. Obama's heart is in the right place, though. The right-wingers that he is listening to have told him that he has a chance to win the General Election.

Or, Sen. Obama will pull a "Lieberman" if he's elected.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 07:04 PM
Response to Original message
27. I think it's more complex
I think they're promoting him (in that Faux way) for two reasons:
1. Building him up to knock him down.
2. They think America is racist enough that he'd be easy to beat in the general (I have no idea if they're right about that).
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TheDebbieDee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 07:29 PM
Response to Reply #27
37. They think America is racist enough that he'd be easy to beat in the general ....
I believe that America IS rascist enough that Sen. Obama will be easy to beat. Ask Harold Ford!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 07:06 PM
Response to Original message
28. I think its more of an indication of how much people just really don't like Hillary. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 07:09 PM
Response to Original message
29. In short, they promote him because they consider him a joke.
And this should influence my opinion how exactly? On the one hand you talk about stomaching Fox news and on the other you worry about their opinions (or your perceptions of their opinions). No, I'm afraid the only point you will succeed in making is to confirm that you are working to defeat Obama. That's cool, but using Fox Nooz as your weapon is hardly convincing.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
taylor egv420106 Donating Member (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 07:13 PM
Response to Original message
30. Oh wait.
They couldn't be talking about him overtaking Hillary because
I dont know

THE POLLS SHOWED HIM OVERTAKING HILLARY?

Oh wait, its Barack Obama so the most convoluted illogical explanation with no evidence must be the right one.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
laugle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 07:14 PM
Response to Original message
31. What is really interesting, other than the obvious
fawning over Obama , is the lack of any objective criticism, which I think is even more telling!

I don't think they think of him as a joke though, just a rookie!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
WheelWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 07:24 PM
Response to Original message
35. Like they did the chimp
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-03-08 07:43 PM
Response to Original message
38. I get tired of hearing about how each of our candidates are "beatable"
I'd like to hear more talk about how our candidate, whomever it may be, can win!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Sat May 04th 2024, 03:59 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC