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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 07:39 AM
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We'll find out tomorrow.
We'll find out if Obama can repeat what he did in IA and persuade thousands of independents to vote for him. We'll find out if he can get young people out to vote for him. If he does this, we'll have a good indication that there was nothing flukish about what happened in Iowa.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 07:51 AM
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1. I think so, too. If Obama wins New Hampshire, that may well be the ballgame.
The new slogan of the year may well be "It's The Momentum, Stupid."
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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 08:20 AM
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2. It appears he is going in that direction; John Edwards has increased
Edited on Mon Jan-07-08 08:21 AM by EV_Ares
as well nationally about 9 points. Hillary is having a difficult time. The thing that ticks me off and you know I don't support Hillary is like on Morning Joe, they seem gleeful about her getting beat which is wrong for a news crew sitting around a table in that manner. Laughing where dork head Matthews was questioning her somewhere (showing a clip) Hillary said something about some men being obsessesd with her; referring to Matthews. I sent an email to Morning Joe saying she was right. Matthews constantly blasts her in one way or another sometimes spending almost a week on his show doing it.

He sucks.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 08:22 AM
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3. I actually find the way Clinton has been treated- both in the MSM
and on the internet in progressive communities, really painful, and often sexist. It's been enlightening- and not in a good way.
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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 08:28 AM
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5. You are right Cali, she has not been my choice but I don't think I have
done the things in a sexist way, certainly have not meant it that way. It was painful to watch this morning I thought which was really what opened my eyes toward the bias against her, it was so blatant.

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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 08:38 AM
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8. I've never seen you put things in a sexist context, EV
but man, the ugliness directed toward her has been upsetting to me. I defended her a lot, and the shit I took for it, despite not supporting her, was amazing. I'm sad it went down this way.
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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 08:46 AM
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9. Yeah, you did defend her and I hate to admit this but it has gone on
long enough that I hate to say this but I know where you were coming from now. Guess you were seeing it quite a while before I really recognized it.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 08:22 AM
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4. Obama's inevitable.
The grassroots movement to Stop Edwards At All Costs has succeeded!!
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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 08:30 AM
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6. The WSJ has been gonig really hard at Edwards; in today's paper,
again they are blasting him. Saying he should go after tort reform first if he wants to make changes. That could be true to some extent but is not the main problem and is just an excuse for Wall Street to attack him.
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 08:35 AM
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7. LOL! Clinton's stunning setback must be driving folks nuts! n/t
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 06:49 PM
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10. Don't laugh too soon...
She's doing great in the exit polls right now. After all the bravado here today, I'd laugh my ass off if she won:) I'm still undecided and probably will be for another couple of weeks. This is fun to watch though:)
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origin1286 Donating Member (292 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 06:49 PM
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11. Evidence?
you got none other than conjecture.

god i hate people who jump to conclusions.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 06:51 PM
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12. Me too! You should watch that stuff...
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 07:56 PM
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13. Hillary just pulled into the lead...
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 07:57 PM
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14. Still bloody early.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 08:00 PM
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18. True!
Way too early for the person who touted Hillary's "setback" too! I'm just seeking a balance. I don't much care for Clinton or Obama, actually. I'm just mesmerized by the in-fighting here. :hi:
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 08:30 PM
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19. I understand.
No hard feelings. All's fair in love and war, but at some point the war will end, Hobbesian anarchy aside.

:hurts:
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 07:57 PM
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16. Not yet!
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 07:57 PM
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15. We won't find out late tonight?
Bummer!
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 07:59 PM
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17. Not me Cali. I'll be up all night.
Wont be able to sleep until I know how my state went. aaarrgghhh!
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