Clinton's crowd control showing signs of panic

[sniffa]

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,,5831813,00.jpg

But that queue was helped by the fact that the Clinton camp had kept the doors shut.

And as they did eventually make their way in, the work of what they call the "Clinton machine" was clearly discernible.

Clinton's campaign staff had shrunk the room. It made the crowd look bigger.

Using barricades, the public area in front of Clinton was considerably smaller than at the Obama event the previous day. Instead, they expanded the area reserved for the media.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,23018872-2703,00.html

edited down to stop the concerned DUer below. you'll just have to go to the article to read the desperation of the Clinton Machine.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

1. LOL!

[alcibiades_mystery]

2. Four paragraphs maximum on news article

You are putting this board in jeopardy by ignoring the rules.

Clip it at four.

[jakem]

4. when the paragraphs are one sentence? does that make sense?

[alcibiades_mystery]

12. I don't know if it does, and it's really immaterial

That's the rule, and it's in place to avoid charges of infringement.

[jakem]

3. i found a pic of the next press room for clinton-

[Skidmore]

5. Sweet Jesu, did we not have enough of this kind of crap under the

Rove propaganda ministry? If Democrats countenance this behavior, we have learned nothing.

[jhain]

15. The only difference is

when the Democrats do it it makes the "news".

[GalleryGod]

25. Well put, Skidmore.

Let's take this advice to HEART, fellow DUers!

[MuseRider]

6. Elections

are like watching the movies. Bad movies. All special effects and ever changing scripts.

[KittyWampus]

9. or are they like making sausages?

[MethuenProgressive]

7. TeamJordan's MoonieNews thread says "there was visibly more" for Clinton than Obama

...and claims she had to pay for the bigger than Obama crowd.
link: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3972277&mesg_id=3972277

The haters (no, not sniffaTeamJordan, but their sources) need to coordinate their attacks better!

[0007]

30. Better than just plain bitter Bill

There are Democratic candidates who will entirely end American military involvement in the war in Iraq, like Bill Richardson, and there are Democratic candidates who simply want to reduce, but not end, American military involvement in the war in Iraq, like Hillary Clinton. That is the direction the debate over Iraq should and must take during the Democratic primary season if the party is going to make an informed choice about its next leader. There are candidates who will end the war, and there are candidates who will decrease its size but not end it. During the primary season, the only candidates who I will end up supporting when we start closing in on the primaries fall into the former camp. While I am sure that this makes me a naive, dirty fucking hippie, I guess it makes Bill Richardson one too. In fact, I am going to give $25 to his campaign for making this statement, and be on the lookout for Richardson 2008 drum circles in my neighborhood. Mind you, I'll keep voting for Edwards in straw polls for now, but this makes me take a long hare look a Bill Richardson.

If ya have chops, here's more...

http://mydd.com/story/2007/4/11/14755/6603

[ccpup]

8. from The Australian?

:shrug:

[jakem]

10. I know, but check the byline...

Geoff Elliott, Manchester, New Hampshire | January 08, 2008

THIS IS FROM THE FUTURE PEOPLE!!!

[Yael]

14. It is in an Australian paper

[jakem]

17. um.. ya. so what?

[Yael]

19. Check a globe

they are 15 hours ahead of us.

[jakem]

20. oh, crap. did i forget to put this on my post?

:feigned incredulity at the possibility of future communication from another time zone:


hey, where is that emoticon, anyway?!

:)

[Satyagrahi]

11. "Did JFK say: 'That moon thing, it looks too far, let's have a reality check...

From the same article:

(Obama: )"False hopes? About what we can do? What does that mean? What kind of message does that send to the American people?

"That we are going to focus on the constraints of what is possible instead of open them up, bust through them? Is that how we got through segregation and ended it - by saying: 'You know what, you can't change that'?

"Did JFK say: 'That moon thing, it looks too far, let's have a reality check here, we can't do it'.

"What kind of message is that?"

:rofl:

[sniffa]

13. Reality check

snap

[bvar22]

29. Did MLK say "I HAVE A DREAM!!!"

or did he say,

"Man, fighting for Civil Rights is just too hard and would take a long time.
We should just get used to sitting in the back of the bus."

THAT is the underbelly of LOW expectations.

[PATRICK]

16. There is a lot

of minute overreacting to typical political strategy. Clinton's campaign indeed reveals some signs of desperation but the presentation means are not all that "evil" or fake. I think we can acknowledge these postings in themselves are the typical pushing down of the opponent on the ropes. If we can have the grace to avoid the next stage, gloating over the foe's body and carving out a trophy, it can be overlooked as the give and take of the political playground. It is rather sad that Clinton has been almost programmed into a lot of the things that not only seem objectionable but are part and parcel of doom. A good chunk of that comes from the GOP and her own trying to get around it all. Having enthusiastic supporters is not like having brainless goons or fanatics truly phonied into the GOP scene. If they were nothing but staffers and paid help yes.

And if you DIDN'T take care of the photo scene guess what the media would do to you???? Any Dem, any time? The famous cropped photo of Senator Scoop Jackson on the stump, done possibly just in fun, made him an instant laughingstock. It showed him standing on an elevated platform pontificating over the head of a lone listener although there were many present. And it isn't just fun anymore. The GOP media is at war against Dem success.

[zulchzulu]

18. Can't Speilberg add more people in crowd with cgi?

I think Speilberg endorsed Hillary way back when...well, now's his chance to "enhance" the crowd.

Maybe a spoof is in order...

:rofl:

[jakem]

22. yes, but he cant make them from NH!

[Thrill]

21. wow

[FogerRox]

23. Utter bull shit, I was at both events, Talked to the SS and local police

The crowd was not allowed in because the fire marshall asked for moving some sat truck cables, and the SS then made their sweeps with dogs.

The Obama event had 2400 people, the HRC event had 2200 people. Obama's stage had a peninsula that stuck out while HRC had a square stage.

The HRC event had far more energy, but slightly fewer people.

[GalleryGod]

24. "Let's Grab some Decaf" on ALL sides.

We don't need phrases like " total bs" ,here. Let's keep the discourse UP fellow DUers!

IMHO:The inspiration for the OP was off-target....so were some of the "colorfull" responses.



For a Jersey-Guy...I want more.

[FogerRox]

27. The room does not hold 3500

The media narrative that HRC is desperate is a load. This comes from an Edwards supporter, me. This news article is utter Bullshit.

[MethuenProgressive]

26. Thanks for the REAL news, Foger!

And congrats on getting out to both events, I'm jealous!
:kick:

[FogerRox]

28. I did Rudy and Romney friday night, Bill Clinton & Obama saturday

SAw Hillary and Edwards on sunday, drove back to NJ sunday night.









Joe Trippi outside the Edwards bus.





I have yet to load my Big Dawg pix yet.

[bvar22]

31. Is "Big Dog" still campaigning with Hillary?

I thought they had airbrushed him out of the picture when her #s dropped last week.

[FogerRox]

32. saturday was the big debate, so I'm sure HRC was craming

The schedules posted by campaigns showed that everyone took the afternoon off to study and freshen up.