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Ninga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 09:02 AM
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"Paul Revere" reporting on the Revolution - here!
This country is about to witness a sea change, and it will be brought to you by the people who refuse to let John Edwards down, and are going to fight right along side of him.

Starting right now, and right here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2616899


I want to say to all of the namby pamby posters who cry out "why can't we all get along and play nice" bullshit -

We are in the fight of our lives, and for the future of good people of this country.

WHY IN THE WORLD WOULD YOU NOT WANT A PRESIDENT WHO IS WILLING TO FIGHT FOR THE PEOPLE?



The people of this country have been steamrolled, cut off at the knees, willing to beg for a job, health care and justice.... and YOU "want to play nice" ?????


Nice got us CAFTA, NAFA, a horrible welfare bill and for some people, nice got them a bank account and a few dollars in interest.....but for the people who need it the most, nice didn't get them jack shit.

People who are struggling financially and dying from the lack of health care are still waiting for nice.

Hello....voters....Hello DU'ers.......John Roberts and Sam Alito were brought to us by nice. Where were Clinton and Obama? At the podium, pounding their fists and saying that they wouldn't go down without a fight???????????? Noooooooooo way, not those two. They are too nice.

We need to take "nice" and put it away.

We need to resurrect "fight" and put "fight" in front of the fat cats. How far will the fat cats be able to run, with all of their blubber and back packs full of money...when fight appears on the scene?

We are in the fight of our lives, and we are going to stand by John Edwards as long as he needs us.


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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 09:09 AM
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1. Good for you. Its only because Edwards supporters won't quit
that he even gets any publicity at all. The MSM (what a bunch of lying chislers) are determined that they won't give him his due. I guess that it's all up to people like you to keep the momentum building.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 01:53 PM
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2. I agree! The war profiteering corporate news monopolies tell us who threatens them
--by their blackballing of candidates. We almost don't have to read their platforms or know anything else about them. We can know how much they threaten the Corporate Rulers by how much they are abused--excluded, blackballed, 'swift-boated,' or mis-reported. Kucinich. Edwards.

I think they've only lately concluded that Edwards is a threat, and I think that's because Edwards has actually changed. He reminds me somewhat of Bobby Kennedy in this regard--who underwent a real change of heart, with regard to both anti-communist wars and civil rights and poverty issues. The key moment for Edwards may have been the theft of the 2004 election, and the failure of the Democratic Party to contest that obviously stolen election. (For Bobby, it might have been his brother's assassination, possibly combined with the horrors of the Vietnam War, and M.L. King's influence as well.) In any case, Edwards has been tagged as a threat to the powers-that-be, who, on the other hand, don't seem threatened at all by Barack O'Bama's soft rhetoric of "hope." It's kind of like my rule on thumb on Bushites. Whatever they assert, assume that the opposite is true, and you can't go far wrong. Whoever the war profiteering corporate news monopolies promote, beware of that candidate; and whoever they blackball, we very likely should support.

BUT, we should be aware that NO CANDIDATE who is sincere in his/her intention to reform this government (which necessarily means busting Corporate/War Profiteer power) will be permitted to win the White House. Back in the day, they just shot them. Today, they have total control of election outcomes, with private electronic voting systems, run on 'TRADE SECRET,' PROPRIETARY programming code, owned and controlled by rightwing Bushite corporations--fast-tracked all over the country during the 2002 to 2004 period. I think it is possible for the people to outvote the machines (they did, in some cases, in 2006), but then some other means will be used to prevent a reformer in the White House. We need to face this reality. ONLY sell-outs will be permitted to gain that power. What we can do, though, is influence the private debates in corporate boardrooms and secret meetings (like the Bilderberg Group) on how far to go in robbing the American people and pushing us toward outright revolt. That's the best we can do, I think, until we restore transparent vote counting--an on-going fight by many citizen groups in state/local jurisdictions. Which means, pick your anti-corporate candidate, and go for it. Donate. Volunteer. Blog. Whatever you can do. Never give up on your right to vote!

For a run-down on what we're facing, by way of voting systems, in New Hampshire, see

http://www.democracyfornewhampshire.com/node/view/5296
http://www.verifiedvoting.org/verifier/
(Also informative: http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0505/S00381.htm)

Optical scan, precinct based. Not as riggable as touchscreen systems, but still easily riggable. NH voters and campaign workers need to be all over this primary, with efforts to verify the vote. I believe that "precinct-based" may mean votes get posted at the precinct level (which is good), but I'm not sure. Trying to find out.

We will NOT have verifiable elections in the primaries and in the general election in 2008. These highly riggable electronic systems just got entrenched too fast, and are very hard to dislodge. We will do it eventually. Meanwhile, fight for what's right and true and open and aboveboard. We WILL get our country back eventually. Think long term. Think beyond the next election. Fight for the best candidates and ideas, and for TRANSPARENT vote counting.
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Ninga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 05:40 PM
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3. Political activists do it better.
:hi:



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