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Mon Jan-07-08 12:03 PM
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Since people cannot point to policies that would link the two, I see alot of people suggesting that Bush's broken promises of uniting people indicate that Obama would suddenly turn to the Bush and Rumsfeld Doctrines.
Or they suggest that being inspired by his personal commitment to helping poor people out when he could have got an amazing job working at the Supreme Court makes us just like the religious zealots who think Bush is the right hand of God.
I thought it was cheap to accuse candidates of being Bush-lite because of their policy decisions, but this desperate attack knocks the bar much, much lower.
As liberals, we are supposed to know a thing or two about the means and the ends. We're supposed to be the ones oppose burning villages to save them, torturing prisoners to stop terrorists, and so on.
Your attacks only hurt Clinton, they don't help her.
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Mon Jan-07-08 12:05 PM
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Same basic message: "I'm not Clinton" with the same fuzzy feel good non-specifics mixed in. |
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Policies? No, not similar. In every other way, right down to the evangelical pandering and fake accents, exactly the same.
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DrFunkenstein
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Mon Jan-07-08 12:55 PM
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10. Policies Matter - And So Does The Ability To Gin Up a Public Mandate |
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If Obama has to talk directly to evangelicals to get them aboard to create a public demand for health care reform, I call that a net plus. If he gets evangelicals aboard to take care of "God's good earth," I'm behind that 1000%.
Kerry also had a sense of spiritualism behind his policies, but he was uncomfortable expressing it as a Northeastern Catholic. I wish he could have harnessed that language more effectively, the way Martin Luther King Jr. used passages and the rhetorical energy of the Bible to push forward his civil rights and anti-war agenda.
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Mon Jan-07-08 02:05 PM
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12. The only Democrat with a fake accent is Hillary Clinton... |
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Mon Jan-07-08 10:05 PM
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14. She was quoting an old Negro spiritual. You're keeping the RW smear alive. |
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You're smarter than that, aren't you?
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Mon Jan-07-08 12:05 PM
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1. Did this one hurt Obama? |
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Mon Jan-07-08 12:37 PM
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6. Please don't confuse them with facts...it's only OK to compare Clinton to Bush... |
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Obama is sacred and should be respected.:eyes:
Clinton was and is still called "Bush-lite" by her detractors~~~but they squawk when it's pointed out that Obama is more * than * himself.
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Mon Jan-07-08 12:42 PM
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8. Sorry, but what Obama said is true. She IS just like Bush trying to play the fear card. |
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Mon Jan-07-08 12:47 PM
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9. He Was Talking About the Republicans |
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After Romney said he wanted to double Guantanamo, I don't find this statement all that surprising.
What exactly makes you think he was referring to Hillary Clinton when he said someone would "vote and act and talk just like George W Bush"?
When has Hillary Clinton ever engaged in the kind of militaristic sabre-rattling that Bush has?
When has she ever made wild suggestions like leaving nuclear weapons "on the table" to fight terrorists like Bush has?
When has she ever voted to authorize a pre-emptive invasion that is the cornerstone of the Bush Doctrine?
Clearly Obama was referring to the Republicans who like to to talk, act, and vote "tough" by putting hundreds of thousands of lives on the line for their political theatrics.
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Mon Jan-07-08 12:29 PM
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2. Other than offering "Hope" and revival meetings, I can't figure out |
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Edited on Mon Jan-07-08 12:30 PM by The_Casual_Observer
what Obama is all about. It's looking like a celebrity cult thing.
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Mon Jan-07-08 12:32 PM
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3. Hula Hoops, Mood Rings, Pet Rocks, Barack Obama, Beanie Babies |
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They'll all be on some "Remember these?" VH-1 Special at 3AM...
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Mon Jan-07-08 12:35 PM
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4. The Clintons are already there. |
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Mon Jan-07-08 02:17 PM
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13. And the most interesting question is why the corporate media |
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is promoting him. They have put him in a protective bubble. You gotta wonder why?
The media is not reporting the news - they are making the news by making him a cult figure. They are vile evil fucks so what are they up to? The clearly are following a script.
I talked with a political friend last night for two hours trying to figure out what in the world is going down. The string pullers are pulling the strings but to what end. We will know eventually but not before it is too late.
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Mon Jan-07-08 12:35 PM
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5. Bush clearly was only for big business and no-one can be compared to what he has done as the worst |
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Mon Jan-07-08 12:39 PM
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7. She's trying to say that the reason people are so interested in Obama is |
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because they "want to have a beer with him," like they did with Bush. She's so far off with this line. There's no comparison between Bush, who people thought was "an ordinary guy," and Obama, who is an inspirational leader with proven judgement, experience (albeit not in D.C.), and other qualities that differ 180 degrees from Bush. Just a desperate attempt at the flailing Hillary campaign to try to minimize Obama, the person they never expected to get in the way of her and the presidency.
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