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Wed Jan-09-08 12:25 AM
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Now we move on to the less than 'lilly white' States... |
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How telling and interesting it shall be, indeed.
Now the real cross-section of these States gets to check in...
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Wed Jan-09-08 12:27 AM
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95%+ white Iowa went for Obama.
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Wed Jan-09-08 12:30 AM
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6. you must have failed logic. |
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if so many in lily white states went for Obama and he came in resounding first place in one and a close, close 2nd in the other....what might his results be in a state with more African American voters now that they see him as a guy who can win?
you know how the guy talked about his fiancee voting for Hillary just because she's a woman? There will be many who vote for Obama because he is one of their own and a representation of a changed time.
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Wed Jan-09-08 12:33 AM
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Edited on Wed Jan-09-08 12:34 AM by AX10
That is your opinion. You Obamites have a problem with women who vote based upon gender but have no problem with Obama getting votes based upon race. Quite the double standard. Also, DO NOT give me the "ohh, your a racsist" shit that you people have been throwing around. Those Hannity-like tactics don't work.
Obama does NOT speak for me. He wants to sleep with the right wing, that's fine, but I am NOT joining him!
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Wed Jan-09-08 12:38 AM
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15. okay....that's funny for several reasons |
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I've NEVER said someone who decided to vote for someone other than Obama was a racist. Anyone who has said that is ignorant and the comment is indefensible.
second....when you talk about Obama being with corporate America and "in bed" with the right wing...I find that laughable. YOu do realize you're supporting Hillary Clinton, the big bad DLC centrist???
man. no wonder the American people are such easy marks.
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Wed Jan-09-08 12:41 AM
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21. I have been called racist by several Obama supporters around here. |
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Also, Hillary is a centrist and is honest about it. Obama is not honest on where he stands.
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Wed Jan-09-08 12:40 AM
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19. AX10 you are right on my friend. How easily obama folks want to |
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make it about race. So I guess we HRC supporters shall continue to me called racists, and I reckon now all that voted for HRC in New Hampshire tonight are racists and bigots too....WOW!
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Wed Jan-09-08 12:41 AM
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22. go ahea and read my reply too. yours is a strawman |
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easy to defend against an argument I never made. please learn how to stick to the actual facts of what people said.
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Wed Jan-09-08 12:44 AM
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Wed Jan-09-08 12:46 AM
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Wed Jan-09-08 12:51 AM
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Your side can't accept that you lost this one.
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Wed Jan-09-08 12:57 AM
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29. hah! my main reason for entering this thread |
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is you're trying to say the OBAMA victory was meaningless. you're trying to say OBAMA going to states with more African American voters is meaningless. I just came in to inject some accuracy into it. and then for some reason you completely go off on a tangent.
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Wed Jan-09-08 12:59 AM
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30. Your side is trying to make it all about race. |
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Wed Jan-09-08 01:03 AM
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31. all sides are. others just said the reason polls were so far off |
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is white voters who were polled didn't want to seem racist so they said they'd vote for Obama and then turned around to vote for Hillary.
so...."my" side is not the only one. Incidentally, I have been supporting Edwards. Obama has always been my "safety" candidate. And I am now reverting to him as a supporter with Edwards losing.
Clinton....I just don't trust her to change ANYTHING.
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Wed Jan-09-08 12:41 AM
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Wed Jan-09-08 12:27 AM
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2. you are right..now it does get interesting |
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Wed Jan-09-08 12:28 AM
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3. As a Caucasian American, |
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I find the deragatory term 'lily-white' to be offensive and racist when used in the context you have used it in.
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Wed Jan-09-08 12:29 AM
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5. Or "white bread" and "pasty" |
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Wed Jan-09-08 12:33 AM
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9. You should say it loud, you're lily-white and proud. :) |
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Wed Jan-09-08 12:34 AM
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12. As a Cauc. American, I don't find it offensive or racist at all. I think it |
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Wed Jan-09-08 12:39 AM
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racially diverse states' would have been better.
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Wed Jan-09-08 12:40 AM
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20. Well, when you put it that way... LOL.. yeah,, probably :-) |
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Wed Jan-09-08 12:29 AM
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4. Yee-ha.. Bring. It. On. I have time, I'll take a month off work.. |
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and I'll be out spreading the word.
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Wed Jan-09-08 12:31 AM
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7. I just don't think Obama is limited |
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by his skin color. And likewise Hillary is not limited because she is a women. These are two extraordinary candidates.
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Wed Jan-09-08 12:38 AM
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16. Obama should only be limited by his experience... |
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but there have been several acusations made tonight about NH being racist. It's just BS if you ask me.
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Wed Jan-09-08 12:32 AM
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8. I was surprised to see this post here cuz I was thinking it! |
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Wed Jan-09-08 12:34 AM
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11. Lily white? Quit the racist bullshit. |
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Wed Jan-09-08 12:36 AM
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14. It was an idiotic thing to say.... |
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Wed Jan-09-08 12:40 AM
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18. Why do people here keep raising the race issue anyway? |
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Wed Jan-09-08 12:35 AM
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13. So, if Obama wins in SC, is it reverse racism? |
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meaning no vote for the 'white woman'?
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Wed Jan-09-08 12:49 AM
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...that Obama needed to win these "lily-white" states to dispel the notion that "the country will never elect an African-American." Iowa was a big step in that direction, but N.H. is, likewise, a giant step backwards, and will revive the meme that he is "unelectable."
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Wed Jan-09-08 12:51 AM
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28. you mean because he was narrowly beat out for 1st place? |
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I don't think that places him in unelectable territory. He got more independent votes. Hillary got more hard core Dem support. In a general election it is the independents and cross over voters and new voters that make the difference.
I like Obama's chances.
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Wed Jan-09-08 01:13 AM
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32. That's a pretty racist OP |
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You act as if there's something wrong with people being white. WTF is that about? There are areas with a majority of blacks, Hispanics, Asians, but you don't hear any complaints about those. It's not a sin to be white, you know....
Unlike you, these "lily-white" people were color-blind enough to help Obama win Iowa and come in a VERY close second in NH.
Take your racism and shove it.
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