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Wed Jan-09-08 03:38 AM
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I had a question about Oprah Winfrey. I was wondering if she had stepped forward in 2004 to suppor |
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Kerry and Edwards? It seemed to me a little disingenuous for her to come forward to support Obama when this whole mess could have been ended in 2004. And please don't play the race card. It's a legitimate question and should be applied to all candidates who use celebrities. For instance Chuck Norris for Huckabee.
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Wed Jan-09-08 03:40 AM
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But that was her right.
She likes Obama. I don't see the problem with that.
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Wed Jan-09-08 03:40 AM
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2. They didn't move her the way Obama does. |
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She's not obligated to endorse anyone and she's not obligated to keep quiet, either. Like a lot of people in this country, for the first time in her adult life there was a candidate out there who spoke to her deeply and she chose to put her name on the line and support him.
I'm glad she's on Obama's side.
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Wed Jan-09-08 03:42 AM
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3. she is supporting OBama because she likes Obama, not because she is a Dem |
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which i'm not sure if she is. but she said she has supported people in both parties.
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Wed Jan-09-08 03:46 AM
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4. She's never endorsed a Presidential candidate before. n/t |
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Wed Jan-09-08 03:47 AM
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5. No...she was too busy peddling books~of~the~month and Dr. Phil... |
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and voting for Republicans for sh*ts and giggles. She's a real trooper, that one.:eyes:
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Wed Jan-09-08 03:50 AM
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6. She's the American dream and a force for good. Quit hating. |
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Wed Jan-09-08 03:52 AM
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Edited on Wed Jan-09-08 03:53 AM by CyberPieHole
but thank you for your concern.
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Tess99
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Wed Jan-09-08 03:57 AM
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8. She's the american dream |
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Dirt poor black girl born and raised in the segregated South. A molested child, molested teenager, battered woman. Became Nashville's first black news anchor and worked her way up to the big leagues in Chicago where she was given her own show and the rest is history. Say what you want about her, but do not belittle this woman's accomplishments. Like Obama, she's a self made person who worked hard and made it on her own. Like Obama, her story is improbable, but she's here, honey, and more than you could ever be. Keep laughin'.
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Wed Jan-09-08 03:59 AM
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9. Good point. She certainly could have put a stop to this mess. |
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I remember being disappointed in her for doing fluff instead of doing something meaningful. Haven't watched her much since.
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Tess99
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Wed Jan-09-08 04:00 AM
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10. Why was it her responsibility to put a "stop to this mess"? n/t |
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Maybe democrats should quit acting like republicans and backing status quo establisment candidates, the people who voted for all this mess.
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Wed Jan-09-08 07:51 AM
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14. With great wealth comes great responsibility. n/t |
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Wed Jan-09-08 08:25 AM
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18. So it's Oprah's responsibility to keep Dems from doing the same |
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stupid thing over and over, like nominating obvious losers? Please. Get over it, she loves Obama.
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Wed Jan-09-08 09:48 AM
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21. Oprah IS part of the corporatocracy. |
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She IS a big chunk of that top 1% of wealth in this nation. If she's not part of the solution, she's part of the problem.
When a single powerful person is able to powerfully influence any issue he or she chooses to, just as she powerfully elevated Obama in the eyes of this nation-- and got him millions upon millions of dollars worth of media exposure in every single market, and on every single television set in this country, that is huge.
Sorry, but I stand by my statement: with GREAT wealth comes great responsibility.
I think she shirked that responsibility in 2004.
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Wed Jan-09-08 09:50 AM
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22. So she is responsible for Democrats consistently nominating obvious losers? |
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Wed Jan-09-08 09:58 AM
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26. No. I'll say it again: |
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With GREAT wealth comes great responsibility.
And, btw, we are ALL responsible and accountable for what this government "of the people, by the people, and for the people does." Nations all over the world hold ALL of us personally and individually responsible. It's all being done in our names. What are we ALL-- including Oprah, who is one of the most powerful people in America today-- doing about it?
She didn't stand up in 2004. She had all the candidates on her show, but she was noncommittal. Never took a stand.
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Wed Jan-09-08 04:15 AM
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11. What is your point...? |
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Because, from here, it seems like a subtle way of implying that "Oprah only supports Obama because he's black." :grr:
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Wed Jan-09-08 04:33 AM
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12. She was a bush supporter in 2004. Not like she supports Obama |
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but she wanted him to win.
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Wed Jan-09-08 04:41 AM
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13. It's not her fault that Bush won in 04 |
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It the fault of democratic voters. They picked a terrible establishment candidate. Went for Kerry over Dean, bunch of fools. We didn't deserve to win that one.
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Wed Jan-09-08 08:09 AM
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16. So, do you have a point? |
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Or do you just enjoy bashing Democrats?
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Wed Jan-09-08 08:24 AM
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It's not Oprah's responsibility to save the Dems from themselves just because she has a lot of money and influence. It's the dems responsibiltity to quit continuing to nominate people who obviously cannot win decisively. That hasn't a thing to do with Oprah, it has everything to do with Dem voters.
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Wed Jan-09-08 08:34 AM
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19. Sounds like you're blaming everything on the Democrats |
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Or the "Dem voters", damn them!
I LOVE Dem voters.
I assign more blame to those people who vote republican, myself.
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Wed Jan-09-08 09:52 AM
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24. So Oprah should be blamed for our losses because....? |
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Edited on Wed Jan-09-08 09:54 AM by Tess99
Pleaes explain to me why Oprah is at fault for all "this mess"?
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Wed Jan-09-08 07:59 AM
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15. You keep making up stuff |
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She did not support Bush. You will say anything, shameful.
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Wed Jan-09-08 08:36 AM
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I have spoken to...even non political, have said that is when they knew what Obama's run was about...unfortunately. It screams volumes...in terms of "Perception!"
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Wed Jan-09-08 09:51 AM
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23. We would have still lost - thanks to what they did in Ohio |
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Wed Jan-09-08 09:52 AM
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25. nope, and not in 2000, either. |
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