it was the debate performance, not the tears - I said it then and I'll say it now.

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c'mon

[itsrobert]

1. It wasn't her debate performance. It was Obama's lacking performance.

Obama thought he could just show up and keep his lead.

[maddiejoan]

4. I don't think Edwards attack

came off well --I think it wound up hurting him.

[itsrobert]

11. Yup, pointing out differences of the Status Quo vs True Change

is an attack. To some people.

[maddiejoan]

12. Here's a hint for JRE

when the public sees a white christian guy with big teeth on stage with a black man and a woman --and HE's the one that says he's not the status quo

laughter ensues.


sorry --but it looked very strange.

[itsrobert]

16. You maybe correct

Never looked at it that way.

[maddiejoan]

21. works great for him on the stump

but srsly --he can't do that as effectively at the debates.

it's a funny visual.

[snagglepuss]

24. WTF are you talking about. You should read Hofstader's

Pulitzer Prize winning "Anti-Intellectualism in America" because this is a prime example of American anti-intellectualism.

[corkhead]

22. I hate to admit that you might be right Maddiejoan,

but my wife who is far more unbiased than I, thought that as well.


I didn't see it that way of course.:P

[Andy823]

8. i agree

And his comment about her likability. But I do think the "emotional" thing helped her also. A combination of all of these did the trick.

[jasmine621]

2. HRC is well qualified for the job of Pres. Clinton-hate is her only

obstable. Males on all sides are obsessed with hate for Bill and many women just don't like Hillary for sticking with Bill. All of it is irrational.

Remember the his Geraldine Ferraro took because she challenged Bush the elder in a debate? Women at my job site thought it was "horrible" for her to talk to the VP that way. "Who does she think she is?" Nevermind it was a political debate.

[maddiejoan]

3. what's obvious to me

is that the media wanted a Dean Scream out of Hillary

version #1 was gonna be the debates

version #2 was gonna be the Diner incident.

Both backfired --and if anybody voted for Clinton over either of these it wasn't because she misted up --it was because the media pounced on it.

Guarantee --if the media had said nothing about it -- very few people would have even noticed.

[2rth2pwr]

5. Here's the Obama "likable enough" snark

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4UgXzXaueI&feature=user

[AtomicKitten]

6. "You're likable enough, Hillary. No doubt about it."

Why does the reporting of this leave off the second part of this quote?

Answer: Easier to twist into a diss.

Why didn't the media play Hillary's entire teary moment quote?

Answer: Because she attacked Obama in the next sentence and that would make it more difficult to twist.

[Beausoir]

13. I watched it live and Obama was childish and petty in that exchange.

Childish and petty.

[AtomicKitten]

14. in your opinion, but you would be wrong

And the irony of just how wrong you are is that he was doing exactly the opposite.

[Beausoir]

17. OK. You have just made one of the most non-sensical posts I've read today. You need a do-over.

Because that was just jibberish.


Go ahead...try again.

[AtomicKitten]

19. Oh, it's quite simple to understand if one is inclined to reason, but that's not

... where you are coming from, is it?

Your attacks on Obama are becoming stale and, quite frankly, boring.

[Beausoir]

20. I did not realize that I was so notorious here on DU.

Of the 100,000 or so members, I didn't know that I was so villified.

LOL. Nice try.

[bpeale]

25. ACTUALLY, my husband & i both thought he looked like a deer in

the headlights with a bullseye on his chest. he looked sleepy & listless like he didn't want to be there.

[goldcanyonaz]

7. She kicked both their asses in the NH debate! People took notice and got off their ass and voted!

[durrrty libby]

9. Yep

:toast:

[emilyg]

18. Yes.

[Thrill]

10. It was the tears and the fact that women

gave a her sympathy vote because of the debate. When they took it as she was being ganged up on by two men.

[bunnies]

15. Sigh. Not according to people Ive talked to here in NH nt

[Dawgs]

23. You're wrong. It was the fake tears.

No one watched the debate. The NFL playoffs were on.

Hillary's fake emotions video was played hundreds of times on Monday; one day before the primary. Obama's stupid comment was never replayed, and he didn't drop in the polls until Monday night.

[Cameron27]

26. I agree,

she was the most concise, the most specific on the issues, the most authentic, and had the most fire.