BIDEN, RICHARDSON, DODD supporters... Where are ya leaning?

[FlyingSquirrel]

Just curious. I had Biden as my second choice so now I don't have a good second choice candidate... that saddens me. But oh well that's show biz

[WheelWalker]

1. Into the wind.

[Warpy]

2. It was always going to be a coin toss

between Richardson and Edwards. Now I don't have to remember to bring a coin.

[JDPriestly]

9. Welcome to the Edwards camp.

[gateley]

3. I'm neutral. I like/dislike all the others equally! nt

[Muttocracy]

4. toward electoral reform

$$ and the media it feeds with some help from the undemocratic primary/caucus system got rid of my top 3 candidates (B, D, R)

After that, maybe O, E but not much enthusiasm for either.

I live in NY which will probably go to Clinton (see: $$)

NY will go Dem. in the general election; thanks to electoral college rather than popular vote count, my vote is pretty meaningless.

And I don't have the money or time off to help with the general election in other states.

Wishing for electoral reform I guess.

[jillan]

5. As I posted in the JBSG - I feel like I had dessert first and am now

being served leftovers for the main course.

[MadBadger]

10. Ouch!

[adadem]

15. Yeah...that's the feeling

couldn't quite find the words for what I have been feeling. Thanks.

My one, two and three have gone bye-bye and we haven't even had our primary yet.

[stlsaxman]

29. exactly the way i feel. thanks for putting it so succinctly!

to take the simile further-

i'll skip the main course, thanks and go straight to the after dinner toothbrushing to cleanse the ugly taste of the last administration from my pallet.

in other words- i'll wait for the general election, thanks,

[CrispyQ]

37. Good analogy, Pirhana.

I'm with Gately - I dislike the top three equally. I'm not going to caucus. I'll vote in the GE for SCOTUS only.

[Didereaux]

40. Perfect!

[bdamomma]

6. my first choice was short lived unfortunately, now leaning

towards Edwards.

[Snotcicles]

7. It must be liberating not having the burden of lobing turds at opposing supporters. nt

[jlake]

8. God I miss Biden, but am for Clinton 100% now.

[adapa]

12. +1

[Tashca]

11. None of the above

At this point I choose none of the above.

It's interesting. I have found that once a person makes a decision (including myself) they will fight until the end to justify their decision. Now that my decision (Biden) in no longer seeking the nomination I have found I have a whole different perspective. I am seeing the leading candidates differently now. In fact I am liking each of them better. I see they are finally slowly coming out with more and more information. More details and less rhetoric. I am trying to understand who each of these candidates will surround themselves with. I think that may be an impossible task right now. I don't believe for an instant any of these candidates can keep their promises by themselves.....but judicious choices in advisor's and cabinet appointees will make or break their presidency.

[1corona4u]

13. I'm not voting.

At all.

[ginchinchili]

14. I remain a Biden supporter

and will write his name in as a statement of protest. I am angry and distraught over the ignorance shown by the Democratic Party once again, and their willingness to sacrifice the Party and the nation in order to nominate the closest they can get to a celebrity. Democrats had the ideal candidate in Joe Biden. His intellect was unmatched, and he not only believed in moving the Democratic agenda forward, he had the experience and the network to see to it that the necessary work got done. He's a man of unparalleled ethical standards. Republicans could not accuse him of doing hard drugs or unscrupulous business arrangements for the sake of furthering his career. He's spent his entire life living the family values the Republicans can only talk about. I honestly believe that many Democrats are turned off by his clean living, lending credence to the Republican's charges that the Democrats lack strong moral standards. He is not a particularly wealthy man, worth about $150,000 and has more in common with the average American than any other candidate. He lost his first wife and a baby daughter when he was 29 to a drunk driver and, as a result, he commuted to Washington everyday so that he could spend his evenings with his sons who were also hurt in that crash. He is the only candidate who had a real plan to get us out of Iraq, one that wouldn't further turn the military against the Democratic Party, and in fact, would have won many over to the Party. He is an interesting, funny, and compelling man who is creative and quick on his feet. He would have come out of any debate with any Republican candidate looking like a winner just as he did the Democratic debates. The Republicans could not have diminished his popularity in a general election by attacking his foreign policy or national security credentials because he knows more and has more experience than any of the Republican candidates. He attracts Independents and moderate Republicans. He is the surest thing to victory that the Democrats had and the Democrats cast him aside for much weaker candidates.

I'm so profoundly disillusioned by the stupidity of the Democrats that I no longer consider myself a member of the Party. No, I'm not signing up with the Republicans. If that was to be my reaction over the latest Democratic debacle than I wouldn't have been so strongly in favor of Joe Biden. In fact, that's the point: I want the Republicans to lose and we can't afford to take any more chances--we really can't. But the Democrats can't adequately analyze the political climate and so we will lose again. Since I know we can't afford to lose again, but the Democrats don't, I'm parting ways with the Party. They suffer from the same malignancy suffered by the Republicans: they're unable to care about this country, only their own petty obsessions. Biden could have been to the Democrats what Reagan is to the Republicans, except with a legitimate legacy, not a fabricated and hyped legacy like Reagan's. He could have really brought a sense of unity to the country, and no one is in a better position to begin repairing the damage our nation's credibility has suffered under Bush. In fact, he already knows most of the world's leaders. There wasn't a better qualified candidate than Sen. Joseph Biden and the Democrats passed him up for either a man with zero international experience and credibility, and lots of history that gives the Republicans plenty of ammunition to use against him, or a woman who would accept the Party's nomination with higher disapproval ratings than any other candidate in recent history, including George W. Bush, and is perceived as a very divisive and crafty politician. Democrats insist on losing and I refuse to be a part of it.

[Kat45]

16. I agree with your first paragraph.

I don't believe Hillary or Obama can win the general election in this country and I do believe Joe Biden was the right person for the job, particularly at this point in time. I don't know who I'm going to vote for; I'll have to do some serious research to find the remaining candidates' positions in detail on many issues. I hope the democrats don't snatch defeat from the jaws of victory (yet again) because our country cannot afford it anymore.

[elleng]

23. notmy,

I'll be writing in for the rest of my life, General Clark or Senator Biden.

[ginchinchili]

25. I supported Wes Clark in 2004.

This time it was Joe Biden. Neither were chosen. We lost in 2004 and I fear we'll lose in 2008. I just get tired of banging my head against the wall. This is not losing at a game. We're talking about the future of our children and grandchildren. That's why I'm so thoroughly disgusted.

[elleng]

28. gin,

ditto.

[robbedvoter]

35. We won in 2004 - the candidates just failed to fight, you wou are not aware

because they kept the Omerta on it. I can't believe you think we lost in 2000.

[ginchinchili]

36. I didn't say the Democrats lost in 2000.

But I will say they failed because, as I'm sure you have noticed, Bush has been president since 2000. The Democrats should have won by a much wider margin, but they didn't. The Democrats should have taken to the streets, but they didn't. Yes, I think stating that the Democrats lost in 2000 is a fair statement. We can quibble about how they lost or how to define a "loss," but any way you look at it, the Democrats lost.

[butterfly77]

43. I feel the same..

I was Clark last time and this time Biden. I was so disgusted but everytime I see these rightwing assholes lying and planning for the swiftboating, I begin to think about how I want them to lose, I have been waiting to long for this. If they win this it will be over,I know the country will not be able to withstand another 4 years of these people, they are insane!

[gateley]

17. Wow. So well put. Thanks again, Gin. nt

[livvy]

20. Thank you.

I do not understand what the hell is going on in this country. It doesn't make any sense. What ever happened to reason and rational thought? Our forefathers would be appalled at what we have become. They expected that we would be more responsible. Of course, they also expected that the press would be the check on the government. Our Republic was never meant to be a version of "American Idol".

I remain a Biden supporter, also. I'm really trying to warm up to the remaining candidates, but they just don't seem to click with me. I will support any of them in the end, but my heart and intellect will remain with Biden.

[PatSeg]

21. Thanks Gin

Once again you put into words the way many of us are feeling.

I feel like I'm free-falling and can't latch onto anything.

[Carla4Biden]

26. I too am dedicated to Biden

I remain dedicated to Biden. At this point I will be voting for him as a write in. None of the other candidates have done anything yet to make me believe they deserve and would do a better job than him. Thank you Joe for continuing to put what is best for this country above all else and refusing to be anything other than yourself to win. With Biden you know what he will do as president and what he stands for.

Senator Biden is a leader that is not appreciated in his time.

[1corona4u]

27. Welcome Carla!

I'll be a lifelong Biden supporter.

[stlsaxman]

30. Absolutely correct, gin.

if i don't skip the primaries i'll write in Joe.

I'll pull the "D" lever in the general. Yeah, call me a Treestump Dem-

[CrispyQ]

38. I agree.

'08 could very well be my last election.

[jillan]

41. Excellent post gc!

You summed up my feeling perfectly.

[phylla]

18. Clark-nope, Warner-no, Biden-no Clinton-yes

I like her more and more-

[rucky]

19. I'll figure it out on primary day.

I have a feeling it'll be decided by then. (ohio)

[Muttocracy]

22. also waiting to hear from Biden

I don't expect him to endorse before the nominee is chosen, since he'll have to work with Clinton and Obama either in Senate or down the street or together in the administration.

But should he endorse early for some reason, or send signals one way or the other based on current events, I will definitely listen to his wisdom.

I also doubt he'd take VP - maybe for BO, not for HRC or JE (can't see them offering or him accepting). If he did, I'd throw my support that way.

Sec of State or Defense get thrown around - again, I would only expect from BO. Doubt we would know before the election, much less before the convention. That would sort of amount to Biden endorsing. Again, I'm keeping my ears wide open for clues.

Meantime, if he needs help in his Senate re-election campaign, I bet we'll all be helping him with that.

And I'm looking forward to him taking on a long list of issues in a couple of weeks - freed of the constraints of campaigning!
:popcorn:

(edit for typos)

[Occam Bandage]

24. Bidenite, now Obamaton.

[bklyncowgirl]

31. Don't want to jinx anyone else with "Bklynowgirl's Kiss of Death"

That's what I told the very nice young man from the Obama campaign who tried to get me to donate.

None of the candidates has the sort of successful executive experience that makes me think they would make a good president. It's between Obama & Edwards for me, I'm leaning Obama but Edwards could change that before the primary.

Right now I'll sit back and enjoy the show, including all you online primary warriors tearing each others candidates to shreds.

[nickinSTL]

32. Leaning Edwards...

but if he's out before my state's primary - I'll be voting for Kucinich (who I'm pretty sure will still be in). I'm not thrilled with either Obama or Clinton, so without legitimate opposition, I'll vote my conscience. Not that it'll matter too much, seeing as Obama will likely take my state by a LARGE margin. (I live in Illinois)

[Eurobabe]

33. Biden, unless I see a strategic reason to change. n/t

[Didereaux]

39. Same here

[MH1]

34. Kerry's endorsement confirmed I will be supporting Obama

Kerry is in a position to know more about the candidates and more about what is needed now in Washington to turn this country around.

I had Obama as a tentative second choice anyway, but was willing to reconsider if Kerry endorsed one of the others. I think I would have felt similarly even if I'd been leaning toward a different candidate as second choice, although I don't know if I would have changed my mind in either case. I probably would have, because of the respect I have for Kerry, and I do generally listen to people who are in a position to know more than me.

I was leaning Obama because I think he has the right approach to improve this country and actually get things done that help people. He has talked about issues that are important to me in the right way, and that I haven't heard from Clinton or Edwards.

[Mz Pip]

42. ObamaClintonObamaClinton

ObamaClintonObamaClinton.

My head spins. I could easily vote for either of them and haven't firmly decided on one or the other.

I still have some time. I'll watch Clinton on Press the Meat tomorrow and see how she handles Timmy. I'll watch the next debate. I like them both.

Too bad I can't vote twice.

Mz Pip
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