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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 12:33 PM
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If Obama wins- are we getting 4 to 8 years
of racism charges anytime he faces criticism or opposition?

This is not a good way to lead with the politics of hope, or to unite our country.
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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 12:34 PM
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1. If Obama wins
we are getting 4 years. period.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 12:34 PM
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2. Not from him you won't. He's never accused anyone of racism.
That's the truth- whether you want to face it or not.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 02:33 PM
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38. Thank you. Keep saying it!
:hi:
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 12:34 PM
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3. yes.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 12:35 PM
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4. If Obama wins, the rest of the world will embrace him; it will be a good thing. nt
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fenriswolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 12:35 PM
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5. did margret thatcher call her opponents sexist all the time?
Edited on Sun Jan-13-08 12:40 PM by fenriswolf
or any of the african diplomats in africa do they use racism when being treated unfairly by western diplomats? I think after the primaries this mud slinging will die down.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 12:38 PM
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11. Aren't african american diplomats in africa usually dealing with african diplomats?
After all, being african american is also being western.

:-)

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fenriswolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 12:39 PM
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12. LOL my mistake
sorry I'm so used to using the pc term african american to describe anyone with certain traits that I just made a fool of myself, ill change it.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 12:42 PM
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14. I had suspected as much. Glad I didn't start a flame-war though
:toast:
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 12:44 PM
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17. Was Thatcher's campaign filled with charges of sexism? No, the
pattern has shown itself already, and I for one am already way over it.
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 12:35 PM
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6. Do you have a link to support this lie?
Obama has never claimed racism when he's been criticized.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 12:37 PM
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8. reread the OP, I didn't specify from who. nt
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 12:36 PM
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7. Yes, and we'll also get 4 yrs of Vichy Dem action
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 12:40 PM
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13. bwahahaha
learn a little, just a tiny bit of history.


That's so ahistorical and groundless it's a riot. Lala land.

:rofl:
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 02:23 PM
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33. Vichy Dem action?
Isn't that an oxymoron? Kind of like "living dead."

:shrug:
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ginchinchili Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 12:37 PM
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9. He won't win because of the prospect.
Obama's supporters aren't doing him any favors by raising the race issue like this. Americans will reject Obama's candidacy to avoid the daily drumbeat of race. That's a certainty, if this issue persists.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 12:38 PM
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10. We'll get 4-8 years of people being coyly racist
and then crying "oversensitive!!! political correctness!!!" when called on their despicable behavior.

:shrug:
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 12:42 PM
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15. Yes - unfortunately - by the repukes and repuke (all) media...
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 12:44 PM
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16. Yes - and people will get REAL tried of it REAL fast.
It'll make the Obama haters look petty and stupid.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 12:45 PM
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18. The next President is going in with what will likely be the worst Recession of our lives.
Getting into term two will be a tough job.
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intheozone Donating Member (839 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 01:18 PM
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19. That could be a very real possibility, I hope I'm wrong
but that could be what we get. That, and how many years spent in on-the-job training mode?
Just asking!
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 01:18 PM
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20. Hopefully he won't win.That would be best all around
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bluedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 01:34 PM
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25. and how what would the Obama voters do?
contest every state?..........its not going to be pretty if he loses......
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CyberPieHole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 01:24 PM
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21. Yes...Duke LaCrosse Players anyone?
Obama and his thugs have been screaming racism ever since they lost in NH. Anyone who doesn't vote for Obama is immediately labeled a racist...and anyone who speaks out against him is going to be treated just like the Duke LaCrosse players. I hope Americans wake up to the fact that Obama is NOTHING like Dr. Martin Luther King. Obama is sure to lose the race if he runs in the GE.
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martymar64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 01:33 PM
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24. Spoken like a true white person
Oh well, I'm sure its a tough cross to burn, er I mean bear.
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CyberPieHole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 01:56 PM
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27. What makes you think I'm "white"?
But thanks for proving my point.:hi:
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martymar64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 02:05 PM
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30. Lucky Guess
Edited on Sun Jan-13-08 02:08 PM by martymar64
:) I checked your profile so I now see you're not even an American (not North American, anyways). So what is your angle in this race if you don't even live here? Are you a Pinochet supporter?
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CyberPieHole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 02:08 PM
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31. Wrong...
But thanks for proving YOURSELF to be a racist.:hi:
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 02:25 PM
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35. Pinochet? Another hit below the belt from the Obama camp.
:eyes:

By what you, martymar64 claims about Cyberpiehole being a "Pinochet Supporter", it is fair to assume that Obama is a "Mugabe Supporter". Remember that. ;-)
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CyberPieHole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 02:34 PM
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39. I am an American...once again you prove yourself to be an Angry Racist...
You've never heard of Jet travel? Americans are actually mobile (who knew?). And we come in all sorts of colors and ethnic makeups. And we move to foreign countries and study and live and learn. No, we are not all white. But you jumped to a racist conclusion in order to score a political point. Good luck with that.:eyes:

And, by the by, I support the presidency of Michelle Bachelet. But, your "hope" for some Pinochet support, is very telling.
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martymar64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 03:22 PM
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45. You're the one accusing people of being oversensitive about race
I'm simply calling you on the tactic that has been used by racists for decades. Maybe when she wins you can have me sent to Gitmo for torture and reeducation. I know that's what you Hillbots want to do with any dissenters.
As far as being angry, you're goddamned right I'm angry. I've watched this country fall apart because of the Bush Junta and it looks like the Hillary Junta will provide more of the same complicity with the wealthy elites and with the corporate robber barons. I watched her and the other neocons get us into a war for oil and outsourced our jobs to India and China. She also wants to mandate that we pay for private health "insurance" in order to even get a job. Is that a Democratic principle? No. But I guess all that is AOK for you guys. So put me on ignore or whatever. I'll wear it like a badge of honor. I'm through talking with you and your elitist ilk.
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 03:08 PM
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43. why are all you Obama supporters such raging assholes?
what a completely stupid fucking post.
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martymar64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 03:12 PM
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44. whatever dude.
Go back to your Hillary worship.
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 03:32 AM
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57. Inclined to agree
x
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 02:19 PM
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32. Thanks for proving Cyberpiehole's point.
Edited on Sun Jan-13-08 02:20 PM by AX10
Obama is going to throw this election away if wants to make it about race, especially while claiming that he does not want it to be about race.
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CyberPieHole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 02:40 PM
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40. Thanks AX10...
:hi:
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martymar64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 01:31 PM
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22. I have a suggestion
Go over to the UCSC campus, go visit Angela Davis and tell her what you just said and come back and tell us what her response is.
It race baiters like you that make me ashamed to be an American.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 02:24 PM
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34. ?? Is what I posted Racist? Or are you just proving my point? nt
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annie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 01:32 PM
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23. i don't think so. and whoever does, meh. that's life. It'll help us move forward in the end.
Edited on Sun Jan-13-08 01:32 PM by annie1
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vee Donating Member (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 01:37 PM
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26. Put up or shut up.__ __ __ __ __ <----Space for Obama's racism charges. FILL IT IN
Edited on Sun Jan-13-08 01:38 PM by vee
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 01:58 PM
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28. reread the OP, most of the charges are coming from
his supporters or surrogates.
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CyberPieHole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 02:03 PM
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29. Just like W bush, Obama let's his thugs do his dirty work for him...
then he can go out and say..."Twasn't me"...and his followers believe Obama, just as the bushbots believed W. I hope that pulling the race card will come back to bite Obama on the ass.
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vee Donating Member (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 02:31 PM
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36. Just like Hillary you disrepect me an, American VOTER!
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CyberPieHole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 02:47 PM
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41. I'm an American VOTER TOO!
And Obama is showing his desperation by calling the Clintons racists.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 03:06 PM
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42. And you disrespect truth with willful ignorance. Take your faux rage
to the dump with the rest of trash you spew
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vee Donating Member (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 07:09 PM
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46. Put up or shut up.__ __ __ __ __ <----Space for Obama's racism charges. FILL IT IN
Edited on Sun Jan-13-08 07:09 PM by vee
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vee Donating Member (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 02:32 PM
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37. Voters, people who don't agree with Hillary are called VOTERS!
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 07:11 PM
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47. Exactly! Vote for the White Penis and no one can yell sexism or racism!
:sarcasm: Now this is one of the more wtf things I've read here recently.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 12:27 AM
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51. Why is it ok for some people who refer to men, to only see their genitalia?
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 12:32 AM
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52. I'm special.
didn't put in the sarcasm icon 'cause I figured it wasn't needed. Guess I was wrong.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 12:38 AM
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54. special ed.
didn't put mine in either.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 03:08 AM
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55. !
Edited on Mon Jan-14-08 03:10 AM by uppityperson


But, not voting for someone because others will be bigots? Not a good idea. You know, most everyone can find something to complain about about everyone else. even me. tiny tear.
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 07:13 PM
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48. You make...


Proud to be an Amerikun.
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smalll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 07:27 PM
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49. If Obama wins the nomination - we're getting 4 to 8 years -- of President McCain!
:shrug:
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 04:09 AM
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59. Very possible
x
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 07:28 PM
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50. Not from Obama. Obama has yet to accuse anyone of racism, nor has his campaign.
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loveangelc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 12:33 AM
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53. TELL me where he ever charged anyone with racism, and I'm waiting...
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 04:00 AM
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58. Sorry to keep you waiting
reread the OP, I never said it came directly from him. It has been coming from his supporters and surrogates fast and hard.
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goku2008 Donating Member (113 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 03:13 AM
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56. answer
he never said anything about race, black leaders and black blogs and rad, shows were offended, jesse jackson jr. said she shoul've cried for katraina not meaning race, meaning you shouldn't cry because you think your gonna lose an election, but because ppl are dying and losing their homes, the sc chair that sent the memo should be fired i agree, obama doesn't like playing racial politics
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 06:24 AM
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60. It's no damn reason not to vote for him either. You are dividing right here!
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Maraya1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 06:29 AM
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61. I think we'll get 4-8 years of people progressively not noticing his skin
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