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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 12:59 PM
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The Clintons on Iraq
Bill, Jun. 2004:

"I have repeatedly defended President Bush against the left on Iraq, even though I think he should have waited until the U.N. inspections were over," Clinton said in a Time magazine interview that will hit newsstands Monday, a day before the publication of his book "My Life."

Clinton, who was interviewed Thursday, said he did not believe that Bush went to war in Iraq over oil or for imperialist reasons but out of a genuine belief that large quantities of weapons of mass destruction remained unaccounted for.

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Bill, Nov. 2006

Clinton calls Iraq 'civil war,' against withdrawal timetable
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Former President Bill Clinton told CNN Thursday he agrees with those who have labeled the situation in Iraq a "civil war," but -- differing from top congressional Democrats -- said he's against setting a definite timetable for withdrawal.

"We probably shouldn't set a definite timetable right now because we don't want to lose all the leverage we have to get others in the surrounding countries to work with us, and to get the Iraqi political forces to try to get more and more people to choose politics over violence," Clinton told Soledad O'Brien on "American Morning."

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Hillary, Jan. 2007:

The senator described her philosophy about military power as one rooted in pragmatism. Regardless of the pressure from some liberals and antiwar Democrats, Mrs. Clinton said she was skeptical about embracing hard timetables and cutting off financing in Iraq, for instance, because they were not practically feasible.

“I am not for imposing a date — certain withdrawal date,” she said. “But don’t be mistaken, I am for ending this war as soon as possible.”

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Hillary, Mar. 2007:

Clinton to Back Iraq Deadline
In Shift, Senator Supports Measure Setting Withdrawal Date

By Shailagh Murray
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, March 10, 2007; Page A07

A vote on the Democratic-sponsored Iraq resolution expected to hit the Senate floor next week will mark the first time Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) has embraced a legislative deadline for withdrawing from the war-torn nation, a step she has consistently resisted to this point.

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But the stakes are higher for some senators than for others. Clinton, the front-runner for the 2008 Democratic presidential nomination, has carefully laid out her Iraq views in a series of formal plans and speeches and has repeatedly rejected setting a deadline for withdrawal. Yet when and if she casts her vote, those pronouncements will be somewhat eclipsed by the Senate's binding action. That fact touched off an unusual scramble in which even Senate leadership aides are attempting to characterize Clinton's position as consistent with her previous views.

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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 01:01 PM
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1. HOW DARE YOU?
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marylanddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 01:06 PM
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9. What do you mean?
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 01:10 PM
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10. That was an infamous Bill quote when heckled about 911 during a speech. nt
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marylanddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 01:15 PM
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13. Thanks!
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jasmine621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 01:02 PM
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2. Sure looks like the MSM and Republican meme of "cut and run"
wont stick to Hillary. Will it?
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 01:02 PM
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3. when it comes to taking things out of context
to build a case - you do Tim Russert proud.

Why is it that Hillary gets questioned on this constantly and Bush, who's war this is, gets a pass?
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 01:04 PM
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6. Out of context? n/t
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marylanddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 01:06 PM
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7. Nobody's giving Bush a pass - but his enablers don't

deserve one either
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 01:06 PM
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8. Bush does NOT "get a pass...."
I live for the day he stands in the dock at The Hague. I just hope those who aided and abetted his crimes bear some responsibility too.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 01:12 PM
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11. Back in 2004
Did you ever wonder where in the world the media got the idea that the only thing Kerry disagreed about was the execution of the war?

http://www.cfr.org/publication/6600/remarks_by_senator_hillary_rodham_clinton_transcript.html

Or where in the world the media got the idea Dems were for "stay the course" or continuing the war?

http://www.papillonsartpalace.com/clintIon.htm
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 01:12 PM
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12. Please. * is blamed constantly, and Clinton is running. Is she NOT
to be questioned?
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 01:04 PM
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4. mealy-mouthed war mongers, IMO....
Bill Clinton is responsible for the deaths of an estimated one million Iraqi civilians, half of them children. His pronouncements about the morality of Bush's actions are utterly worthless. And Senator Clinton has supported the illegal war of aggression against Iraq from the very beginning. She is a war criminal, IMO, as is her husband.
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marylanddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 01:04 PM
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5. Thanks for finding & posting these - they speak volumes...
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-13-08 05:41 PM
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14. Kick! n/t
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