How sad. How unsurprising. Clinton takes the high ground at the

[cali]

same moment that one of her surrogates launches an ugly attack. This is a pattern. I wish it weren't happening and that she wasn't doing this shit, but she is, and I can't ignore it. Yes, I believe it's orchestrated. It's been going on now for months.

And it is deplorable.

[geek tragedy]

1. Which surrogate this time--Charlie Rangel? n/t

[Yael]

31. Yep. She is calling for kittens and roses at the same time ole Charlie is calling Obama "stupid"

But then again, there is nothing to see here. Just move along...

[babylonsister]

2. It's all about her and her quest for power. Full speed ahead. nt

[Occam Bandage]

3. As George Bush said so deftly, "You can't take the high horse and then claim the low road."

[emilyg]

22. You used to have interesting posts. Shame.

[Occam Bandage]

25. I find hypocrisy ridiculous, whether directed at Obama or Clinton.

[emilyg]

36. My bad. Was responding to Babylonsister. Sorry

[Mike03]

4. Good observation, and thanks for posting this.

Speaking just for myself, it hurts to see this crap from Bill and Hillary. I had such massive regard for them. Hillary's behavior I understand, but President Clinton is tossing his reputation into the dust at this point. He is doing no favors for Hillary, IMHO.

[jackson_dem]

5. Obama's been doing the same thing the entire campaign

He follows the "politics of hope" (wink, wink) while his surrogates do his dirty work for him. Jesse Jackson Jr. is one good example. Another is when David Axlerod lied, contradicting what he said on national television in 2004 about Edwards, about Edwards' record in an effort to smear Edwards. Obama has run as dirty a campaign as Hillary.

[cali]

12. Nonsense, but I expect nothing else from you .

Clinton surrogates:

Kerrey
Shaheen
Cuomo
Johnson
Rangel

Other:

volunteer coordinators sending out "Mulim Obama" email
email in NH lying about Obama's record on choice
Clinton campaign harassing Obama poll workers
Bill lying about Obama's record against the war
Clinton supporters filing law suit to disenfranchise voters


Not even close, pookie.

[jackson_dem]

16. Obama's list

Obama surrogates:

Jackson Jr.
Axlerod
Chris Rock
Barack Obama himself distorting Edwards' record in New Hampshire
Barack Obama himself saying Hillary is like Bush and Cheney

Other:

Obama campaign memo implying the Clintons are racist or at least race-baiting
Obama spokesman implying the Clintons are racist or at least race-baiting
Obama campaign smearing Hillary Clinton on trade/outsourcing

These are things that quickly come to mind. There is probably more. What a "hopeful" and "positive" campaign.

[bunnies]

19. Chris Rock?! nt

[jackson_dem]

21. How could I forget Donnie Mcclurkin?

Only the Obama campaign has thrown an entire group under the bus.

Rock played the race card and basically said blacks should vote for Obama because he is black. He referred to Hillary as "the old white lady."

[rndmprsn]

42. more attacks and distortion, but i expect nothing less from the status quo

you should be ashamed of yourself if you had any morals left.

[Barack_America]

6. Her surrogates and advisors are KILLING her.

She needs to get control of them quickly.

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/14/the-clintons-and-history/index.html?hp

[enough already]

9. Don't you think she could stop this if she wanted to?

Bill is probably the biggest problem right now. No, this is all orchestrated. She knows exactly what they are doing and is fine with it.

[msongs]

11. nice accusation for which you offer no proof. nt

[Kahuna]

15. They are doing exactly what she wants them to do. That's why they

call "surrogates."

[madrchsod]

18. she has...

penn is gone

her campaign manger is gone

bill is taking a bigger role

her "new guru" is a texan who`s good

[enough already]

7. There is nothing new going on with them

Unfortunately. They're willing to rip the party to shreds to win.

[2rth2pwr]

8. Rangel speaks the truth, Obama could have

squashed this on Friday, but he chose to "ride the wave"

[Cha]

30. charlie rangel is a fucking hillary

surrogate and that requires that he smears and jeers like he's ordered to.

[annie1]

45. You don't seriously think Rangel can be ordered around! ?

He's a wonderfully outspoken congressman for somethng like 25 years now. He does no one's bidding.

[ruggerson]

10. If she was doing what you claim she's doing, but doing it against a Republican

in a general election, would you be cheering her on?

[DURHAM D]

13. At what time did Rangle give that interview?

At what time did Obama back down?

I have no doubt that some of the wiser members of the The Black Caucus have been trying to get Obama to put a lid on it over the past few days.

[dionysus]

14. why do you hate 'merka?

:sarcasm:

[Thrill]

17. Its going to backfire and I'm going to laugh my ass off

[boston bean]

20. it's all part of a pattern. a mysterious, never ending pattern found

mostly inside the brains of those who support barack obama.

:bounce:

[rndmprsn]

44. at least we have brains...status quo, STFU

silly people you make me smile =]

[jenmito]

23. 5th R. This is such a pattern with her campaign. If she wins it will be like Rove's still running

things.

[muyojoe]

26. NOW THAT IS A REALLY UGLY THING TO SAY!

Nothing could be like that, unless guliani won.

[jenmito]

27. AND SO ARE THE CLINTON CAMPAIGN TACTICS.

Sorry, but it IS like that. Welcome to the DU. ;-)

[muyojoe]

29. NO ITS NOT,

Nice to meet you.

[jenmito]

33. YES IT IS!

Same here.

[Big Blue Marble]

24. The Clintons are consummate magicians.

They will draw your attention here not there as any good magician will.
The problem is that magicians do not make the best presidents.

[OzarkDem]

28. Obama & Clinton have called a truce, have you?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4068187

[robbedvoter]

34. I'm with the truce!

[Evergreen Emerald]

32. How funny. Everyone is Clinton's surrogate, but when people are attacking Clinton

The Obama campaign had nothing to do with it.

More double standard here on DU.

[David Zephyr]

35. The Clintons can't help themselves. This week will be her undoing.

I'm finally beginning to understand why 50% of Americans dislike her.

She could never be a president of all Americans because too many just hate her.

We are crazy to nominate a person this despised.

[AGirl]

38. But i think you always hate her.

[lastliberalintexas]

37. Sometimes the idiocy on this board is astounding

I am NOT a Clinton defender by any stretch of the imagination, but the manufactured outrage over *gasp* politically motivated campaign tactics is bloody amazing. I don't think I've ever seen a campaign for office of least state senate level in which this tactic wasn't employed, usually very successfully. ALL the campaigns are currently doing this, on both sides.

If you people could take off your candidate blinders for a change, you might be amazed at what you could see.

[DrFunkenstein]

39. Are You Suggesting The Clintons Put Out a Black Congressman

As a surrogate on purpose? I am sure that, like Bob Kerrey and Bill Shaheen and Robert L. Johnson, he's just winging it.

She listened to New Hampshire voters and, in doing so, found her voice. And by "voice," she means a baseball bat to Obama's head.

[Barack_America]

40. I'm suggesting that Hillary doesn't have enough control of her surrogates...

-or-

She's putting them out there to say this shit.

It has to be one or the other.

As far as Rangel is concerned, I wonder if it was more a case of unfortunate timing. Obama extended his olive branch before Hillary did. Perhaps his comments were in response to Obama's and just so happened to coincide with Hillary's remarks.

But then again, maybe not.

That's the problem when this pattern of Clinton negativity keeps repeating itself. You want to give them the benefit of the doubt...but then again, maybe not.

[annie1]

41. Charles Rangal is nobody's surrogate, no matter who he supports.

He says what he want, whenever he wants. He is definitely his own man. lol.

[question everything]

43. "going now for months"

care to give examples?