Bake
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Tue Jan-15-08 04:15 PM
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What's so special about Iowa, NH, and even Nevada? |
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Why do they get to be the first primaries/caucuses anyway? What's the point of our nominating process being decided by (the first) two small, mostly-white states? Can we wait to decide until we get to some "real" states like, e.g., California? New York? Illinois? Ohio?
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Tue Jan-15-08 04:16 PM
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Edited on Tue Jan-15-08 04:17 PM by 2rth2pwr
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Tue Jan-15-08 04:20 PM
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5. Thought better of that remark eh? |
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Id say thats a good decision.
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Tue Jan-15-08 06:36 PM
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21. Sometimes I can control myself. nt |
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Tue Jan-15-08 07:01 PM
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23. lol. I know the feeling. :toast: nt. |
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Tue Jan-15-08 04:17 PM
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2. Supposedly, any candidate get traction even with a small budget in a small state |
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"supposedly"
In Ohio, candidates have to run TV or print ads in six media markets.
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Tue Jan-15-08 04:18 PM
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Folks from Iowa, New Hampshire and Nevada are more sensible than people in California and New York. You don't want a bunch of sinners picking the President, do ya?
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Tue Jan-15-08 04:18 PM
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4. Hey Bake, we are first |
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in obesity, diabetes and unwed childbirths but never primaries.
I agree. I think its incredibly arrogant of Iowans and New Hampshirites to insist they be first. Let the locusts swarm Mississippi every 30 years or so. Rotate the primaries or have four regional primaries which also rotate.
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Tue Jan-15-08 04:20 PM
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Tue Jan-15-08 04:22 PM
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7. That makes too much sense... |
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that's why it will never happen.
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Tue Jan-15-08 04:40 PM
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14. Regional primaries! Excellent idea! |
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I know that in states where I have lived (TN, KY, MS), everything was over and done, the fat lady had sung, by the time they got around to asking who I wanted. Somehow that never seemed fair to me.
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Tue Jan-15-08 04:24 PM
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I love threads wherein people will chat about what assholes residents of my state are. :eyes:
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Tue Jan-15-08 04:26 PM
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10. Me too. It absolutely makes my day. |
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Tue Jan-15-08 04:30 PM
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13. Why should New Hampshire always be first? |
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Lets rotate the primaries and let other assholes have a disproportionate say in who gets nominated.
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Tue Jan-15-08 04:52 PM
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16. Im all for rotating primaries... |
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and letting other assholes have their say. :rofl: And I dont personally know anyone that would be disagreeable to that. Its the state not wanting to lose the revenue brought in by the primaries that would make it hard to change.
My issue with threads like this is that they usually degenerate into people claiming that NH voters are (insert insult here). The voters here dont chose the primary date. Bill Gardner does.
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Tue Jan-15-08 04:56 PM
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18. I live in Mississippi |
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I'm familiar with how threads about one's state degenerates. However, in the case of MS most of it is true.
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Tue Jan-15-08 04:58 PM
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:spray: I feel your pain my friend. :toast:
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Tue Jan-15-08 04:41 PM
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15. I never said anything about Iowans or NHers or Nevadans |
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I just asked why they get to be first. Seems like a fair question to me.
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Tue Jan-15-08 04:53 PM
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17. I'm the asshole (one of them I guess) who was not nice Bake |
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The poster has a valid point and so do we.
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Tue Jan-15-08 04:56 PM
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But thats what these thread usually turn into.
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Tue Jan-15-08 04:26 PM
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9. Michigan should have been the first state, their economy is FUCKED |
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Tue Jan-15-08 04:29 PM
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12. I don't know about that. Our economy is in the toilet, though. |
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First was ridiculous. Today's date is just fine, but my vote didn't count. No one fought for my vote, that's for sure.
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Tue Jan-15-08 04:28 PM
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Brilliant idea.
Smaller states go first so candidates have to get face to face with people.
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Tue Jan-15-08 06:42 PM
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We should at least have rotating regional primaries. NH and IA don't have sacred rights to give or take momentum from candidates.
The primary system we have is completely idiotic. It's incredibly undemocratic. Caucuses are even more exclusionary. Why not just have smoke filled rooms? The whole thing is a charade as it is.
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Tue Jan-15-08 07:08 PM
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24. How would rotating regions help? |
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Let the south go first? The northeast?
The problem is when they crammed all the primaries onto Super Tuesday which made Iowa and New Hampshire the only place to overcome the monied interest. All we have to do is spread out the 22 states voting Feb 5 and it turns into a normal primary again.
I think moving Nevada and SC up has broadened the diversity quite a bit. After Feb 5, we'll have had 26 states vote. Any time 26 states vote, including CA, NY, MA; then that's going to be a pretty decisive statement on who the candidate is going to be.
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