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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 11:50 PM
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Obama and Edwards need to form a symbiotic relationship.
Edited on Tue Jan-15-08 11:58 PM by Wolsh
Obama needs Edwards to drop out to consolidate the anti-Hillary vote. Edwards needs Obama to promise him a spot, either AG or VP to keep his political career alive. Why doesn't this happen? Its beneficial to both of them.

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ursi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 11:51 PM
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1. one will have to swallow their ego first ...and I agree, they need each other
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 11:51 PM
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2. Edwards doesn't need Obama
The country needs real leaders this time around, not celebrity candidates.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 11:52 PM
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3. Edwards needs to win a state then. He has no political career to fall back on.
nt.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 11:54 PM
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5. He may win in a couple of days
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 11:55 PM
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7. There have only been 2 primaries so far
Hang in there and don't get your knickers in a twist.
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Yukari Yakumo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:25 AM
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19. 3
Michigan's meaningless one was today.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 11:56 PM
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8. He is tied for first in Nevada.
But if he pulls out a win--will it be good enough?
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 11:54 PM
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4. There is no evidence of there being an anti-Hillary vote. Obama will have to win on his own
Edwards won't and can't rescue Obama.
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:11 AM
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18. at least 40% of Michigan was Anti-Hillary in a Primary for no delegates
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:26 AM
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20. The same thing would have happened if Obama or Edwards were the only one on the ballot
Does anyone talk about an "anti-Obama" bloc?
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:37 AM
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23. yes, they're called Hillarites
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 01:12 AM
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25. Hillary has been popular with Democrats before anyone knew about Obama
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 01:20 AM
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26. so she's entitled to the Presidency, right?
damn new kid in town when will he learn his place!

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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 01:27 AM
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27. lol no. There is no significant "anti-Obama" bloc and there is no significant "anti-Hillary" bloc
At least among Democrats. We can talk about Hillary's high negatives with the rest of America but that is has nothing to do with her performance in Democratic primaries.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 11:55 PM
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6. Oh Wolsh, give it up!
LOL!
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 11:56 PM
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9. Two against one! Can you say pile on?
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Fabio Donating Member (929 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 11:56 PM
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10. about the only thing that could get me UNexcited about Obama
is if he did this. I am not in Obama's camp (stuck between him and HRC),but I think JRE sucked in the 2004 general election and has changed his tune so much in 6 years I cant trust him.
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 11:56 PM
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11. Do You Mean a Symbiotic Relationship?
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 11:58 PM
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14. Wow, thanks, I did
Thats the problem with a liberal arts school education, no science :)
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:05 AM
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17. You mean like "old man" jadzia Dax symbion? (Star Trek Deep Space 9)
Edited on Wed Jan-16-08 12:07 AM by robbedvoter


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loveangelc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 11:56 PM
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12. I don't think Edwards voters necessarily go to Obama
I think the smartest thing is for Edwards to order his delegates go to Obama at the convention in exchange for VP.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 11:58 PM
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15. Heh, I don't think so
Edwards doesn't want to tutor Obama on how to be president. If Obama wants to win it, he'll have to do it on his own, not with Edwards help.
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loveangelc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 01:05 AM
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24. Edwards believes Obama stands for change
if he can stop who he believes is the 'status quo' from winning i think she can do it.
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More Than A Feeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 11:58 PM
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13. You assume that all Edwards voters would go to Obama, and I don't think that's true.
Edwards has a lot of supporters who think southern, white, male= moderate/conservative, and they likely have Clinton as their second choice, not Obama.

Obama actually needs Edwards to stay in to soak up otherwise Hillary supporters.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:01 AM
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16. Actually Edwards supporters are progressive populists
as is Edwards platform. Obama is corporate conservative Dem - weak, pro insurance lobby health care plan, weaseling on keeping combat troops in Iraq, corporate focused energy and economic policy.

Anyone who thinks Obama is progressive needs to read his position statements.
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More Than A Feeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:31 AM
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22. Some of them are, like me. Others aren't.
Edited on Wed Jan-16-08 12:33 AM by Heaven and Earth
Those would be the ones who don't read candidate platforms before making their decision, so they don't know how progressive John Edwards really is. Like I said, they hear a southern, white male and think "aha, a conservative!"
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:28 AM
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21. ...that just sounds...so...GAY!
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