Everyone needs to read Obama's book before deciding to vote for him

[sjdnb]

Just read a few excerpts and unless he has multiple personality disorder and some other freeper personality wrote that book for him, I am extremely worried about what we could elect based on televised charisma.

Maybe you'll get something else out of it --- but, the passages I've read have me extremely concerned. And, he used to be my second choice.

For example, in one part he seems to think the 'dream' of the American dream presented by Reagan, even though stolen by policies that took the same dream away, was more (or, at least just as) important/significant than putting in place policies that would allow people to realize the dream.

That's GOP-speak as far as I'm concerned and thoroughly repugnant.

[LittleClarkie]

1. Good suggestion. We might not be getting the full context as well

Excerpts might not be telling the full story.

[jasmine621]

50. I have read both of his books. That's why he is NOT my FIRST

choice but I could certainly vote for him if he won the nomination.

[Bonobo]

2. You are reading through a prism of your own preconceptions IMHO.

[sjdnb]

9. Have you read the book? Just a few excerpts shocked the

heck out of me. Now, maybe he was trying to smooth the way to a GE, but using Reagan to do it --- and citing the failure of liberals? Now he wants me to vote for him ... uh, think again.

[cali]

29. I've read it.

You are distorting.

[chascarrillo]

40. Thank you for the admission that you haven't read the book.

And thank you for your concern. Personally, though, I wouldn't admonish others to read the book if you haven't bothered to do so yourself. Maybe if you spent less time posting these threads...

[rodeodance]

15. We are all guilty of that--as are you??

[calmblueocean]

3. You really ought to quote what concerns you, rather than just paraphrase and smear,

Interesting too that you say everyone should read his book, and yet you yourself have only read "excerpts" and "passages".

Sorry if this sounds overly hostile, but there are a lot of people on tonight who are trying to smear or purposefully misinterpret Obama because they think it will help their own candidate.

[sjdnb]

10. Buy the book, read it ... I'm not in a position, economically, to provide

copies for every DUer. If I could, I would.

[BenDavid]

4. Maybe this summer obama can go to the Nesoba County fair

like reagan did, and tell all the rednecks he too believes in states rights and how "INSPIRATIONAL" reagan is to him.

Maybe a "good old boy" with a Hillary for President banner will holler at obama and say, hey man, you know not far from here is where three civil rights workers were killed because they wanted to help give blacks the same voting rights as white folk. Hey man, did you know that yo boy reagan made a career out of deliberately appealing to the racist vote and it was a constant tool throughout his career. Oh hey man, did ya also know reagan deliberately set out to appeal to racists and continued the odious Southern Strategy and in doing so, he helped to mainstream racism in the GOP and thus the country.

So obama, you really wanna tell us just how inspirational reagan was.....

Note: i used two southern terms red necks and good old boys.....here is the difference...good old boys raise livestock....rednecks get emotionally involved....

[moriah]

31. I like that one.

"Note: i used two southern terms red necks and good old boys.....here is the difference...good old boys raise livestock....rednecks get emotionally involved...."

Just had to repeat it. I like that, being from the South and all...

[Nailzberg]

5. Good idea. Read the book rather than read cherry-picked, out of context quotes.

Getting any sense of the candidates is impossible in the GDP. (I'm actually reading Romney's book right now - know thy enemy.)

[depakid]

6. "GOP-speak"

I've been hearing that for months now....

[ursi]

7. which book? I liked all of them.

[calteacherguy]

8. I've read both!

GoBama! :hi:

[jackson_dem]

11. I agree. We need to know what he believes

[rodeodance]

12. Which book are you referring to?

[Levgreee]

13. He was just saying people were attracted to Reagan because he presented the American dream

Just talk about the goals of Americans, it's not a claim on how well Reagan's policy reached those goals.

[rucky]

47. 'Zactly

RR sold us an empty bill of goods, but he gave people hope.

Obama is not a supply-sider or a trickle-downer. That's the big difference. He's talking about the president sending a message that all Americans can agree on. Just because Reagan sold the American Dream down the river doesn't mean we should throw the baby out with the bathwater.

[Thrill]

14. I think you need to read the book. I have and its great

There is so much wrong with your post. Your post is very misleading

[sjdnb]

18. How?

If you're gonna accuse, I'd like a little proof please.

[flyarm]

16. ahhhh yes and the media will convince you to support him..its a two person race don'tcha know..

or at least that is what the corporate media wants you to believe...

how dumbed down have we become?

wake up Americans before it is too damn late!

follow the money people... FOLLOW THE MONEY!!

fly

[jackson_dem]

17. Obama on Reagan and "big government." Pages 156-157

"The conservative revolution Reagan helped usher in gained traction because Reagan's central insight--that the liberal welfare state had grown complacent and overly bureaucratic, with Democratic policy makers more obsessed with slicing the economic pie than with growing he pie--contained a good deal of truth."

He makes the argument the DLC made about the size, role of government. When people talk of expanding the pie rather than slicing it they are using smokescreens for talking about cutting back on social programs.

[motocicleta]

21. That is rank, disgusting horseshit.

Nothing anyone has said could ever do the damage to my impression of Obama that his words just did. I still don't like HRC, but I damn well hope Obama gets his comeuppance sooner rather than later for penning that mouthful of crap.

I've got to go get a shower after reading that. Fucking bastard. Can't this country come up with an electable African-American with integrity?

[sjdnb]

22. For a minute there, I thought it was just me ...

that was shocked by this. Sorry for your feeling 'dirty', but glad to know I'm not overreacting.

[motocicleta]

23. You're not over-reacting.

This sucks. I will find it difficult to vote for a Vichy Dem, which Obama and HRC fully appear to be, and there appears very little chance that anyone else will be the nom.

Fight the Vichy Dems!

[rodeodance]

24. ah--the vapors are coming to light. umm.. I am surprized. I will have to pick up the book.

[wyldwolf]

34. his statements on the book on social security and welfare reform should also chill liberals...

[dkf]

19. Yup we should all read his book

I agree completely.

I think I'll order it now.

Maybe I'll make a donation too. :evilgrin:

[countmyvote4real]

20. Only buy the book if you can afford to.

If anybody on DU is still teetering in their support for a Democratic POTUS candidate, then all I can say is "Bless your heart."

My preference is John Edwards.

[rodeodance]

25. k and REC

[rodeodance]

26. see this thread also about the book:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4091712

[FrenchieCat]

27. I did.....

which is why I am supporting Barack Obama.

[digitalage77]

28. I would only buy it used n/t

[earth mom]

30. I don't need to read the book to know Obama's a corporatist DINO.

Or in other words a rethuglican lite. :puke:

[Bodhi BloodWave]

32. Since you KNOW it, then PROVE it n/t

[earth mom]

48. Look no further than millions of CORPORATE campaign contributions.

:puke:

Truth hurts, doesn't it?

:eyes:

[wyldwolf]

33. It's a DLC policy manual, full of things "progressives" hated until Obama announced his bid

[matcom]

35. Since you haven't even read enough to turn in a 6th Grade book report

i'll defer to YOUR wisdom :eyes:

I have actually read it starting on page ONE.

i suggest you might do the same before posting this shite.

[wyldwolf]

38. I have. Front to cover. If many "progressives" were honest in their convictions...

..they'd turn Obama away.

He's everything many on the left have professed to hate for years now.

[indimuse]

36. This guy wants to SUE Random House..For allowing Obama to habitually LIE!

http://www.politicalgateway.com/main/columns/read.html?col=747

He also claims he has some identity issues that stem from childhood....Interesting read!

[Missy M]

44. That was quite an interesting read....

I haven't heard of any MSM people questioning much about Obama. My question has been, who is behind Obama's meteoric rise? How did a relatively unknown, part time state legislator rise so fast in the ranks. Who are the people behind him with all the big money because he sure didn't do it on his own. Obviously, John Kerry is one of the powerhouses but who else decided he is the one?

[indimuse]

49. Don't Know ...yet!

Good questions and observation...Seek and ye shall find! HA! :hi:

[Missy M]

51. Someone suggested to me that....

one of the big money people who started Obama is Oprah. Sounds plausible.

[indimuse]

52. ding ding ding!

I think we have a winner..she's getting her own network I heard...called...O.W.N. Imagine that...

[Missy M]

53. I just read that.....

I didn't read how soon it would happen. It's a not very successful Discovery/Health channel I think.

[wyldwolf]

37. Obama on welfare reform

"conservatives — and Bill Clinton — were right about welfare as it was previously structured: By detaching income from work and by making no demands on welfare recipients other than a tolerance for intrusive bureaucracy and an assurance that no man lived in the same house as the mother of his children, the old A.F.D.C. program sapped people of their initiative and eroded their self respect.” Pg. 256

[rodeodance]

42. and now many enjoy 8$ hr jobs that go no where.

[Disorientedx3]

46. "$8 hr jobs that go no where"

however, the monthly poverty level welfare check took families where??? (disclosure... I went from welfare to work/education, and now make a really nice living. Not typical of the bulk of welfare families, I'm sure, but not completely unheard of, either. But where would I be now if I was still collecting that poverty level check? Not here, working on my computer in my nice home) Also, I'm waiting for my 18yr old to finish Obama's book so that I can get some better insights on the man's thinking.

[elizm]

39. Bill and HIllary praise Ronald Reagan...

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/06/05/reagan.health/index.html

Former President Bill Clinton and his wife, Democratic Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York, issued a statement that praised the former president for his optimistic outlook.

"Hillary and I will always remember President Ronald Reagan for the way he personified the indomitable optimism of the American people, and for keeping America at the forefront of the fight for freedom for people everywhere...

"We will always remember his tremendous capacity to inspire and comfort us in times of tragedy, ...and we can rest assured that, as joyous a place as Heaven is, his wit and sunny disposition are making it an even brighter place to be." President Bill Clinton and Sen. Hillary Clinton.


And a few more words of praise from some Democrats...

"President Reagan brought back grace, strength and class to the American presidency. He restored the nation's pride at a time when our collective spirits were low."Governor Bill Richardson

“Even when he was breaking Democrats' hearts, he did so with a smile and in the spirit of honest and open debate. The differences were real, but because of the way President Reagan led, he taught us that there is a big difference between strong beliefs and bitter partisanship.” Sen. John Kerry

“We often disagreed on issues of the day, but I had immense respect and admiration for his leadership and his extraordinary ability to inspire the nation to live up to its high ideals. He will be honored as the president who won the Cold War, and his 'Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall' will be linked forever with President Kennedy's 'Ich bin ein Berliner.' " Sen. Ted Kennedy
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/1/16/22424/9811/227/438094

[rodeodance]

41. YOU HAVE POSTED THIS SEVERAL TIMES (OR ANOTHER DEM SAYING

SOMETHING POSITIVE OVER HIS GRAVE)---SHAMEFULL

[Maven]

54. Yeah, not the same thing.

And it's not going to be the same thing no matter how many times you post it. We're not all as stupid as Obama apparently thinks people are.

[City Lights]

43. Have you read the whole book, or just passages? eom

[babylonsister]

45. What a b.s. post. Provide at least some quotes, some context.

For all I know, you read one para. in a bookstore. :eyes: