Yavin4
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Thu Jan-24-08 08:15 PM
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The 2008 Dem Ticket Will Be Clinton/Obama |
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Thu Jan-24-08 08:16 PM
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you must be watching Countdown :)
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Thu Jan-24-08 08:20 PM
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13. Big Whoop. Wanna Fight About It? |
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Good to see that KO is a "Family Guy" fan.
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Thu Jan-24-08 08:30 PM
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26. now you want to pick a fight with me???? |
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choose your weapon!!! or or
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Thu Jan-24-08 08:33 PM
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Thu Jan-24-08 08:16 PM
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I've been saying exactly that since Obama's Keynote address in 2004.
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Thu Jan-24-08 08:16 PM
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3. Nope, Obama/Clinton maybe! n/t |
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Thu Jan-24-08 08:17 PM
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4. Only if you want 8 years |
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Thu Jan-24-08 08:19 PM
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6. Clinton will NEVER accept a veep |
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There's nothing to be gained.
I'm not sure Obama gains from it either.
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Thu Jan-24-08 08:18 PM
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No president could trust Obama as a VEEP.
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Thu Jan-24-08 08:20 PM
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Thu Jan-24-08 08:19 PM
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7. No it wont. Two Senators == bad mojo |
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Whomever gets the nomination will pick somebody with executive experience, either a governor or somebody who was in charge of a cabinet-level agency.
Two Senators is not a good combination-- especially when the head of the ticket has less than two terms under her/his belt.
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Thu Jan-24-08 08:20 PM
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10. In addition...I'm not sure he gains anything from being her VP |
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For the most part, her VP would have to comepete with Bill for input.
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Thu Jan-24-08 08:45 PM
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34. hmm that could be a problem.. but assuming she'd be fair |
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He could gain a lot of experience and the trust of American voters.
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Thu Jan-24-08 08:44 PM
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33. Then again, she does have unlimited access to a former president nt |
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Thu Jan-24-08 08:56 PM
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38. So what would be Mercer's proper role? |
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President or Vice-President?
Personally, I can't see him playing second fiddle to anyone.
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Thu Jan-24-08 10:17 PM
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44. He's getting his own Eye Spy division. |
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Thu Jan-24-08 08:19 PM
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8. Let Clinton lose to McCain in 2008 |
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... and win in 2012.
Obama is a Reagan.
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Thu Jan-24-08 08:24 PM
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18. When Howard Dean was running "Democracy for America" |
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...Dean said he wanted it to be a left-wing equivalent of the Christian Coaltion.
But Howard Dean doesn't have the values of the Christian Coaltion, and Obama doesn't have the values of Ronald Reagan.
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Thu Jan-24-08 08:20 PM
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9. In all honesty I would rather see an Edwards/Obama ticket or vice/versa if need be. n/t |
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Thu Jan-24-08 08:20 PM
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11. too big of egos on both sides to do that nope sorry nt |
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Thu Jan-24-08 08:21 PM
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14. Not a snowball's chance in hell. |
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Edited on Thu Jan-24-08 08:23 PM by avaistheone1
Hillary and Obama have proved already that they can not be in same room for more than 10 minutes without killing each other. Both Hillary and Obama each in their own right are polarizing figures with an algorithm when positioned together that would take votes away from the Dem party, not bring them in.
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Thu Jan-24-08 08:29 PM
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25. Hillary reminds me of me.......... |
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and indeed, she will go for the win.........and this is a winning ticket...........
Money and the young vote Obama can bring with him for the General Election....then the future President to follow.
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Thu Jan-24-08 09:43 PM
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40. Too bad Hillary and her husband decided to go so negative about Obama |
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Edited on Thu Jan-24-08 09:44 PM by earthlover
It makes this ticket unlikely.
What is really going to happen is that the two candidates will continue their obsession with each other's jugulars.
There is some merit to a pair, both of which would be firsts, running on change. Hillary, being the chameleon she is (or isn't, depending on the light and surroundings...) could embrace change. Only because she sees it as a means to promote herself, but that is all she is about anyway.
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Thu Jan-24-08 08:21 PM
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15. No way. If Hillary wins by smearing Obama, he better NOT allow her to USE him to try to get back |
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the Black vote. IF she wins, I bet Obama runs against her in '12 and beats her.
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Thu Jan-24-08 08:22 PM
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Obama won't play 2nd fiddle, and Hillary won't want to be outshined by the rock star. VP will be Richardson, Dodd, Biden, Bayh...someone boring but respected.
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Thu Jan-24-08 08:25 PM
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21. I predict Wesley Clark |
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...if she gets the nomination, and doesn't choose Obama.
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Thu Jan-24-08 08:32 PM
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27. Yes he will.......... |
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he wants to be President in the future and it is the only way it will happen. We would of had Colin Powell as a President too.........if he wanted it. Why?...Because we as a country got to know and trust him....as the VP position can do for Obama. It's his only option to reach his goal.
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Thu Jan-24-08 08:40 PM
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If its Hillary/Obama or vice versa, I'd be happy with that. It would take away all these negative feelings I have towards them right now. We need some unity. However it she picks some boring schmo like Richardson/Bayh, that would be a total snoozer and I won't be happy about it.
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Thu Jan-24-08 08:33 PM
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29. Both, Obama and Hillary are rock starts. |
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Thu Jan-24-08 08:35 PM
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This would be like David Lee Roth and Axl Rose starting a band together. How far do you think that idea would fly?
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Thu Jan-24-08 08:22 PM
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YES! Bill Clinton can take V.P Obama around the world teaching/mentoring him to be the next President! I think of it like a Medical Residency Program.......O8)
Obama then will be the greatest President since George Washington............it will earn him a spot on Rushmore then.
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Thu Jan-24-08 08:25 PM
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20. Yep, right next to Hillary. On Rushmore, that is. |
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Edited on Thu Jan-24-08 08:25 PM by goldcanyonaz
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Thu Jan-24-08 08:27 PM
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Thu Jan-24-08 08:27 PM
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23. "YES! Bill Clinton can take V.P Obama around |
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the world teaching/mentoring him to be the next President!
Ya, he can tag along with Bill and Bush sr. on their next tour ...NOT.
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Thu Jan-24-08 09:51 PM
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41. Bill and Sr. did it for humanitarian reasons. |
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You got a problem with that?
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Thu Jan-24-08 08:24 PM
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19. It'll be Clinton/Richardson |
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Thu Jan-24-08 08:28 PM
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24. Sadly, it won't be Richardson |
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He was vetted last time, and came up short, quite possibly because of inconsistencies in his personal life.
I think he'd be great myself, but I doubt he'll even get an offer.
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Thu Jan-24-08 08:54 PM
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37. I wouldn't count him out |
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Thu Jan-24-08 08:34 PM
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30. Have you been drinking? |
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Just kidding! But seriously... I absolutely do not see this happening.
I've got Evan Bayh at the top of my pool. I think she'll go midwest, white, milquetoast, relatively unknown and non-spectacular.
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Thu Jan-24-08 08:48 PM
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35. They better kiss and make up! |
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Thu Jan-24-08 09:52 PM
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42. In politics that's done a lot. |
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Thu Jan-24-08 08:49 PM
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36. And folks say Drugs Don't Kill Brain Cells .... LOL |
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Not a chance in this world (but hey if there is a bizarro world where everything is opposite, you got a chance of being right there!)
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Thu Jan-24-08 09:08 PM
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Hillary hasn't even really begun her national campaign and already so many hate her. I don't think she'll win the nom no matter what happened in a couple of places or what the polls say.
At least I'm hoping she doesn't anyways but if she does her and Obama do not play well together.
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Thu Jan-24-08 09:58 PM
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43. maybe if they both see it as a good thing |
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for each of them. Both are ruthless and ambitious, prerequisites for the presidency. if Hillary and Obama think they can help themselves by helping the other, they can find a way to put their personal issues aside. Obama will accept the second spot if he thinks Hillary can win and will then help him succeed her. She will if he makes it worth her while.
I just took a poll today about the candidates. Their positions on all the important issues are the same. There is no ideological difference between them. the only real question is if Clinton/Obama is the strongest team. Both have already promised to support the party's nominee.
The other more troublesome issue is that racism is not dead in the US just yet. While Obama is acceptable to the majority of the white population now, I wonder just how big that majority is. I raise this issue because of the racial split I am seeing in SC where Obama is pulling only 10% of the white vote. Not sure if Edwards, with 40% of the white vote is hurting Obama or Hillary more there.
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