Bill paints Obama as "establishment candidate"

[Blarch]

This is a example of the "say anything to win" campaign they are running.

How fucking stupid do you have to be to paint him as a newby with no experience...and then call him the establishment candidate ?

Holy shit already. Do the Hillhacks really buy into this ? I would hope they were smarter than this...but here we are.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-01-15-bill-clinton-nevada_N.htm

[ursi]

1. OMG! that's fecking hysterical! Idiot!

[BeyondGeography]

2. This is old

and not worth discussing today.

[AtomicKitten]

3. The Clintons are the only people capable of making me laugh out loud at their tactics.

They apparently think Americans are retarded.

War is peace.
Black is white.
Up is down.

[EFerrari]

6. Help me rewrite "Evita" for Hillary.

Maybe we can get it on the big screens.

lol

[AtomicKitten]

14. the screenplay is in progress ...

[niceypoo]

30. Perhaps you could rewrite "Crybaby" for Obama

...given he can't take it on the chin without running away crying. At least Hillary can take it on the chin. I fear Obama would get eaten alive in a general election.

[EFerrari]

34. You must be talking about a different Obama.

Although, in fairness, all the candidate have ticks we could spoof.

[John Q. Citizen]

44. Yeah, she did her crying before NH. Now she's the iron maiden...sure.

[Blarch]

7. LOL

Slavery is freedom
Bush is 'President'

[lapfog_1]

13. Well, Bush proved it.

including all the orwellian language.

War is peace.

I, for one, thought the Democratic party was smarter than to fall for this sort of crap.
But in the last few weeks here on DU, I've learned otherwise.

[thunder rising]

4. Oh but all of the Obama slime is worth going over hourly. Hillary will fire Howard Dean

And that's all that needs to be known to turn any thinking Democratic blogger.

[Kahuna]

5. Bill is out of his alleged mind. Pity. He used to be so brilliant. nt

[dkf]

24. I love your kitty cat!

How adorable.

[Evergreen Emerald]

8. you mean like obama suggesting he is the change candidate

when his campaign is run by the establishment and he is using Kerry (can't get more established than that) to campaign for him?

Obama wants it both ways.

[Maven]

9. Seriously.

What a laugh.

[Evergreen Emerald]

15. explain to me, how he is the candidate of change?

It is more fairy tale from the Obama camp.

Look: Obama is all about politics. He pretends to be the agent of change because that is what has worked in past campaigns. He uses the establishment and then touts the establisment support.

He is playing the political game.

When called on, you guys get all freaked out. Open your eyes. Obama is playing politics no less than Clinton is.

[Maven]

19. He isn't.

He uses pandering and accommodationist rhetoric to give a soft "glow" to his candidacy without saying much of anything concrete that matters to people who pay attention to politics.

[rodeodance]

41. most only see the Glitter and his vague answers say very little.

[Blarch]

10. So...

in your mind, Obama is more 'establishment' than Hillary ?

Go ahead, say it...I fucking dare you.

[Kahuna]

12. LOL! I love this post..

:yourock:

[Evergreen Emerald]

17. I did not say that. I said that Obama is pretending to not be establishment

while using establishment. He is playing politics. His campaign is attempting to create a personna: one who was always against the war (ignore his record please), who is the agent of change (ignore his record please) and who is anti-establisment (ignore the people he surrounds himself with). It is playing politics, creating a personna.

[Bread and Circus]

11. I don't think the Hillary supporters buy the crap as much as they pretend to.

[Blarch]

16. Oh..they buy it.

They consume it, digest it, then pass it.

[Kahuna]

18. Just when I thought you could not out do yourself....

:loveya:

[LBJDemocrat]

20. He kind of is

Hillary, ironically enough, is less of a free trader than Obama; and most of her supporters are less genteel than Obama's.

[Barack_America]

21. Everytime he says this, I lol...seriously.

Hilarious!

[Bright Eyes]

22. Pot calling the kettle black, much?

[Pathwalker]

23. Since when is the U.S. Senate not establishment?

Both Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama are Senators, therefore both are "Establishment" candidates, and John Edawrds is an EX-Senator.

[dkf]

28. Bill sez Obama not "A" establishment candidate but "The" establishment candidate

"The former president trumpeted New York Sen. Hillary Clinton's accomplishments while painting Obama as the "establishment" candidate"

On the other hand we don't have the exact quote, but unless it has been mischaracterized, Bill Clinton is full of it.

[Pathwalker]

32. Glad you're willing to take the media's word for it.

I'm not. For days they played the whole Clinton "screaming" at reporters meme, then when I saw the clip, he didn't even raise his voice. They've done the same with Obama, too. If the media declared it was sunny, I'd grab my umbrella.

[dkf]

38. I believe it because I think that it was a point Bill Clinton wanted

to make. He wants to be all up is down and black is white to try to shake up how Obama is perceived in the media.

He knows it sounds ridiculous, but he wants Obama to be framed differently, as old instead of fresh so he will say anything.

This is my take on it.

[dkf]

25. Yeah you just have to laugh. Does anyone take stuff he says seriously?

I mean doesn't he see he has crossed into ridiculousness?

He is our ex-President for goodness sakes.

Sad.

[niceypoo]

26. One of Obama's advisor's is on Nora O'Donnell going on and on and on about Hillary

...and Bill. Obama is using the media frenzy to go after the Clinton's by intentionally keeping it in the news by hyping and whining about it.

Apparently any and all criticism of Obama is "disturbing" or "over the line," but hyper, fine tooth comb, criticism of anybody else is acceptable and encouraged by the Obama camp. Why else would he have his personal advisors pushing it on the news?

It is the same thing done by the republicans to Gore in 2000, where they went through every statement or vote he ever made, intentionally took them out of context, and attacked him with it. The lazy media didn't bother looking at the efficacy of the accusations and just ran with it. The exact same thing is happening now except the railroading is being done by freeper types and Obama supporters and OBAMA ADVISORS.

The more I watch this whole non issue play out the more Obama looks like a whining crybaby. I never ever see his camp discuss issues. It's always attack, whine, attack, whine, attack.

[dkf]

29. Well Bill wanted to be the main story and now he is.

I'm sure he is in pig heaven.

[tularetom]

27. Did he do this while riding around in a golf cart with Daddy boosh?

He seems to spend a lot of time with members of the "establishment".

[Blarch]

33. Two peas in a pod

Imagine this guy calls Obama the "establishment candidate" ...this makes the Twilght Zone look like reality

[killbotfactory]

31. You can't get more establishment than being a president for eight years

Jesus, what an asshole.

[Meshuga]

35. He's throwing shit to see if it sticks

He does it enough so a lot of it sticks. It is fucked up but it does work.

[dkf]

40. yup. This is his strategy. And he doesn't care about his credibility.

He just wants to win.

[sam sarrha]

36. links>>

http://zmagsite.zmag.org/Feb2007/street0207.html

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&resnum=0&q=tony+rezko+obama&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=X&oi=news_result&resnum=1&ct=title

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=bush+republicans+rezko&btnG=Google+Search

[jackson_dem]

37. Who have all the establishment pol and newspaper endorsements went to in the past two weeks?

[Lucinda]

39. Obama came out of Chicago politics and is a seated senator. He's sure not an outsider.

And I do think he needs more experience. These aren't contradictory thoughts.

[rodeodance]

42. good grief--this article is from the NV caus@@

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

43. This from the guy who gave us the glory of "Triangulation" (aka-pandering to the right)?

While I have no love for Obama, Bill's just downright ridiculous.