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Sat Jan-26-08 06:09 PM
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I think something is in the air in SC (remember anchors have seen exit polls) |
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I always think you get some kind of indication by the tone the anchors take before the polls close. From what I've heard on msnbc coverage with KO so far is that they are really preparing us for a surprise and that the subject of race by the top two candidates has had an impact. I could be very much wrong (and I admit that) but I think the surprise is that John Edwards did much better than expected--not winning--but I think he may very well be second.
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Sat Jan-26-08 06:10 PM
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Sat Jan-26-08 06:11 PM
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2. I'm hoping and praying you are right ! |
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Sat Jan-26-08 06:16 PM
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Sat Jan-26-08 06:11 PM
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3. That would be very welcomed actually |
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Sat Jan-26-08 06:21 PM
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Sat Jan-26-08 06:11 PM
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4. How would that be a surprise? |
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We're expecting Obama to win big in the black vote. Did he also take the white?
We know Edwards was gaining and in some polls passed Clinton. Where is the surprise?
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Sat Jan-26-08 06:14 PM
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7. In what poll had he PASSED Clinton? Link? |
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A second place showing by Edwards would be a SHOCK and stun the Clinton campaign. I know of no poll that has showed Edwards actually passing Hillary for second place in SC. If you have it - could you post a link?
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Sat Jan-26-08 06:25 PM
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25. NH showed that polls don't know/show what is going on. |
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Sat Jan-26-08 06:28 PM
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27. I was responding to a clear statement by aquart - Which poll has aquart seen per his statement? -nt |
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Edited on Sat Jan-26-08 06:28 PM by democrat2thecore
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Sat Jan-26-08 07:58 PM
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40. Sorry for picking on you. My fault that polls irk me. After OH in 04 on the |
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night of the election they are "dead to me".
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Sat Jan-26-08 08:19 PM
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42. I understand for sure -nt |
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Sat Jan-26-08 06:16 PM
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14. You're going to try to spin a 3rd place finish by Hillary into a non-event? |
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Sat Jan-26-08 06:19 PM
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17. My goodness but you are sensitive |
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where did I say it was etched in stone. I said I could be very much wrong. Get a grip!
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Sat Jan-26-08 06:28 PM
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28. No way Obama took the white vote |
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He would be very lucky if he beat Clinton among whites. The movement among whites was to Edwards. Black undecideds were also breaking for Edwards at a high rate.
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Sat Jan-26-08 06:12 PM
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Sat Jan-26-08 06:13 PM
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6. There is definitely something in the air in SC |
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My guess is oxygen, nitrogen and carbon dioxide, for starters.
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Sat Jan-26-08 06:14 PM
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8. Perhaps Hillary and Bill will need the Oxygen if she comes in third! |
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Sat Jan-26-08 06:22 PM
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Sat Jan-26-08 06:14 PM
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9. I hope and pray also...n/t |
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Sat Jan-26-08 06:14 PM
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Yup, i am thinking the same thing |
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Sat Jan-26-08 06:14 PM
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10. Ya, well if it is too odd a surprise |
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thank Diebold paperless optical scan
Hope it is John a strong 2nd. (Way ahead of 3rd bit not too close to first or we'll hear black white black forever from TV political coverage.
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Sat Jan-26-08 06:15 PM
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Sat Jan-26-08 06:16 PM
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12. They're all smiling which = Obama win |
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Sat Jan-26-08 06:18 PM
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15. Oh Lord, I hope you're right! |
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The Clinton's CANNOT be rewarded for their cut-throat tactics.
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Sat Jan-26-08 06:19 PM
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16. They look tense and uneasy. It could be that Edwards placed first nt |
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Sat Jan-26-08 06:20 PM
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It could be Hillary came in first. Nothing would surprise me.
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Sat Jan-26-08 06:21 PM
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20. Geez, I'm flipping from CNN to MSNBC, and I still haven't ... |
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Edited on Sat Jan-26-08 06:26 PM by timeforarevolution
heard Edwards mentioned other than Chuck Todd commenting twice and the others changed the subject.
:shrug:
On edit: I guess that's your point. LOL. That he may have done VERY well, so they're trying not to mention him AT ALL, hoping what they're seeing/hearing is wrong.
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Sat Jan-26-08 08:00 PM
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41. I had MSNBC on for about 45 seconds and the pig Russert was vomiting his usual |
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Sat Jan-26-08 06:22 PM
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22. If he doesn't win there, then where does he win? |
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That's what one of the MSNBC anchors just said about the Edwards campaign in South Carolina. And that's a very good question. If he can't win in the state of his birth, then he has a big problem.
And remember that Edwards couldn't even carry either South or North Carolina for the Kerry ticket in 2004.
One reason why I support Obama is because I believe that he is the one candidate who can carry the South, which no other Democrat has done lately. And we may very well need the South to win in November.
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Sat Jan-26-08 06:27 PM
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Kerry SPENT ZERO DOLLARS in N & S Carolina! There is no possible way that the ticket could carry either by NOT spending a dime. Gore spent millions in Tennessee in 2000 and did not carry the state he was born in. Get off the "He didn't carry his home state" BULLSHIT!!
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Sat Jan-26-08 07:16 PM
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38. You just made my point. |
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Yes, Gore is another good example of what I'm talking about. No national Dem candidate has done well in the South lately. Obama will break that trend and carry many southern states due to strong support from African American voters and young white voters. And that is our ticket to the White House in 2008.
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Sat Jan-26-08 06:23 PM
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23. More women voted for Obama than Hillary. My guess. nt |
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Sat Jan-26-08 06:23 PM
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24. I have been saying that since the debate...no surprise here. |
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Sat Jan-26-08 06:29 PM
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29. where's the exit polls! |
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Sat Jan-26-08 06:35 PM
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30. yeh, Keith says he doesn't have any exit polls yet |
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Edited on Sat Jan-26-08 06:37 PM by DemReadingDU
edit: well, both Clinton and Obama voters say there as been too much fighting
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Sat Jan-26-08 06:37 PM
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31. I wouldn't be surprised |
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considering the number of pictures of black folks in SC I've seen toting Edwards signs. His message would resonate much better with them than Obama's idiotic one of trying to work with the pigs who have kept them down for so long.
Sorry, Obama folks, to be so blunt, but there it is. You get to like who you like, but he needs to try to work with that scum in the Senate and find his back full of daggers before he's ready for prime time.
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Sat Jan-26-08 06:42 PM
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32. Exit polls showed Obama winning New Hampshire |
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but then there were those Diebold machines that gave the Clintons the edge.
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Sat Jan-26-08 06:48 PM
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33. Fox News dropping very subtle hints Hillary may be third! |
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I know I shouldn't watch it but Shephard Smith who is anchoring Fox News's coverage is dropping very subtle hints that the exit polling is showing Clinton may be coming in third. He seems to be enjoying things!
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Sat Jan-26-08 06:59 PM
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Sat Jan-26-08 06:53 PM
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34. I just heard Christy Hardin Smith on Young Turks -- she thinks it will be |
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a much closer outcome than the polls have indicated -- Hillary closer to Obama, and that JE will do better than anticipated, too.
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Sat Jan-26-08 07:05 PM
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36. Congratulation to Edwards if so. I hope he gets it. |
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Sat Jan-26-08 07:06 PM
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37. I think he came in 2nd. |
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Sat Jan-26-08 07:17 PM
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39. Something stinks with this , 0% in (the polls just closed) and they have already called it! |
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Is this a state with no paper trail?
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