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Mon Jan-28-08 08:11 PM
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Craig Crawford thinks Bill Clinton's Comment was race free, and A-Okay! |
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Mon Jan-28-08 08:11 PM
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1. Thank God for Craig Crawford... |
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Finally some sense on MSFOX.
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Mon Jan-28-08 08:11 PM
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Mon Jan-28-08 08:12 PM
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3. Sometimes Crawford comes up with some really strange comments. |
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I don't know how he could think that.
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Mon Jan-28-08 08:12 PM
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4. Craig Crawford is a bigtime Clinton supporter. |
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Mon Jan-28-08 08:16 PM
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5. I wish Keith would stop having him on by himself. He is essentially a Clinton surrogate. |
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Mon Jan-28-08 08:34 PM
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21. And I wish Tweety would stop sucking......... |
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Mon Jan-28-08 08:17 PM
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You Obama supporters need to use your brains more.
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Mon Jan-28-08 08:19 PM
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7. As I recall Craig Crawford was one of Imus most frequent guest |
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so I really have my doubts about that dude.
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Mon Jan-28-08 08:24 PM
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11. You must know a lot of O supporters also support Imus. |
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I found that out when I disagreed with Crawford and his support for Imus. Just letting you know.
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Mon Jan-28-08 08:20 PM
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8. Not to me, Craig Crawford has, without exception, shamelessly promoted HRC on Keith's show ... |
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Edited on Mon Jan-28-08 08:21 PM by ShortnFiery
I'm disgusted with Craig Crawford's constant and shameless shilling for all things CLINTONIAN. If you can bring-up a video from a couple of weeks ago when Craig Crawford admitted that he was "hyped up" on pain meds for his foot, you will SEE a TRULY *SHAMELESS Clinton Shill* type behavior from Craig Crawford. Even Obermann made a grimace after that drug-induced Clinton ass kissing soliloquy from good ole doped-up Craig. What a tell?!? :eyes:
I wish that MSNBC would have to QUALIFY both Craig Crawford and Joan Walsh as "Clinton Operatives." Why? They have NOT EVER had positive things to say about Obama. All Craig and Joan do is PROMOTE the "illustrious" Clinton Machine.
I have lost all respect for these two Clintonian Operatives parading as OBJECTIVE JOURNALISTS. They do NOTHING but KISS DLC Clintonian ASS! :grr: :nuke: :thumbsdown:
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Mon Jan-28-08 08:24 PM
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12. What do you think of the rest of MSNBC commentators |
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should they be labelled as pro-Obama?
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Mon Jan-28-08 08:28 PM
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16. No, they are "superb" - I am sure. |
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Mon Jan-28-08 08:22 PM
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9. Because to a lot of us his comments were NOT racist!!!!! |
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What both Bill and Hillary said were misconstrued and taken out of context. Saying that someone's position on an issue is a "fairytale" is NOT racist. Saying that MLK's dream became a reality when LBJ passed the Civil Rights Act in 1964 is NOT racist. Answering a question during breakfast at a diner regarding Obama's win in SC and mentioning that Jesse Jackson won there twice is NOT racist and JJ even came out so say as much.
What IS racist to some of us is that no one can dare to question Obama on anything because the race card is immediately flashed.
This isn't a coronation and he needs to EARN his votes, just like every other candidate!!!!!
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Mon Jan-28-08 08:23 PM
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10. There is a difference between making a racial comment and a racist comment |
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Mon Jan-28-08 08:27 PM
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14. "racial"= an innocent comment after being Sharptonized. I get it. |
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I am in NYC and have a GOP mayor because such tactics. In fact Sharpton is there in person to lend his experience to this.:puke:
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Mon Jan-28-08 08:28 PM
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but the media fanned the flames and demonized the Clintons while the Obama campaign played along by remaining silent and passing around a memo. Remember the memo that Russert questioned Obama on at a debate?
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Mon Jan-28-08 08:32 PM
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20. You mean media people like Eugene Robinson? |
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Mon Jan-28-08 08:44 PM
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25. I like Robinson, but he should know better than to look for code words! |
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How is criticism of Obama's stance on the Iraq war by calling it a fairytale a racist remark????????? He NEVER questioned Obama's candidacy, just his assertion that he was against the war while he still kept financing it once in the senate. He was basically calling him a hypocrite, rightly or not, but it still had no racial overtones. His comments could have been used on any candidate of any race.
Are we so hypersensitive in this country that we have to walk on eggs and give a candidate a free pass because, God forbid, someone may think that one's remarks are racist???
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Mon Jan-28-08 08:28 PM
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15. If African Americans (the people who KNOW racism) didn't interpret "Bubba's" comments as racist |
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how in the hell do you explain HRC losing 2x over? Or as the smarmy HRC operative would quip: Obama beat The Clintons in SC like a bad piece of meat. Bill Clinton played "The Southern Strategy" and those AMERICANS who KNOW what racism is, e.g., African Americans, handed The Clintons their political ass. :evilgrin: In fact, The Clintons will not ever make amends after the DEPLORABLE race-baiting that HRC's husband did in SC. :thumbsdown:
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Mon Jan-28-08 08:31 PM
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18. Then shame on them too for believing the crap the media spewed and distorted!!! |
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The Clintons are far from perfect, but they are not racists, they never were and they never will be!!!!
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Mon Jan-28-08 08:38 PM
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23. The Clintons, by their campaigning, encourage race baiting ... |
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You have no idea but as a woman who was ONE out of THIRTY men enrolled during 1979 in one of the first classes of Airborne school open to females, I have a *slight inkling* of what it is to be "put under a microscope."
People of color experience that scrutinizing every DAMN day within certain neighborhoods. I suggest that they are FAR FROM STUPID nor ULTRA-SENSITIVE. What Bill Clinton did was deplorable and anyone with an objective mind in the South KNEW that "Bubba" was attempting to race bait. :thumbsdown:
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Mon Jan-28-08 09:13 PM
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27. And you don't think that Hillary doesn't know how it feels |
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to be in the minority as a woman who has broken many barriers in her lifetime?????????
Obama is lucky that nobody has scrutinized him the way Hillary has ben scrutinized during this campaign. Everybody cries racism, but where were these same people when Hillary had been vilified month in and month out by the media in terms that are nothing less than sexist and misogynist????
Why is sexism not considered as vile as racism???????????
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Mon Jan-28-08 08:25 PM
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13. And in case you miss the fucking point, so does Jesse Jackson. He said he had no problem with it |
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Grow up and stop trying to turn the Clintons into those racist, MLK-hating bigots.
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Mon Jan-28-08 08:32 PM
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19. I remember members of my ultra-right wing conservative family PARADE certain people of color up |
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as "not minding" segregation. That's pure unadulterated BULLSHIT! Just because Jesse Jackson, in the interest of reconciliation, is gracious - that, in NO WAY detracts from the clear race baiting that Bill Clinton was attempting to accomplish.
I thank GOD that, this time, it blew up in The Clintons' faces. It's rare, but sometimes, a higher power intervenes in favor of racial justice. It gives me the ounce of hope that I can hold onto in the CONTINUING STRUGGLE toward the full realization of Civil Rights. :-)
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Mon Jan-28-08 09:10 PM
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26. Seriously....grow up. What Bill Clinton said was a historical fact and it's entirely accurate. |
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As an African-American, I'm not offended by his comments at all.
He was correct. You might not like that he was correct, but he was.
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Mon Jan-28-08 08:34 PM
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Mon Jan-28-08 08:40 PM
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24. Sure, if you're white and pro-HRC or part of the deluded investor class - what's the problem? |
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Edited on Mon Jan-28-08 08:44 PM by ShortnFiery
After all, racism never touches your sweet existence. :(
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Mon Jan-28-08 10:39 PM
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29. You make a lot of assumptions. |
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Mon Jan-28-08 09:15 PM
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28. Craig Crawford is so fucking annoying. I can barely listen to him talk |
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without thinking who the hell gave him a job to be a commentator
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