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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 08:24 PM
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Obama Flashback: Ted Kennedy Is Old and Needs a Spine
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/01/obama-flashback.html

January 28, 2008 7:34 PM

So, apparently, JFK has been reborn. Who knew?

Barack Obama was understandably appreciative of Ted Kennedy passing the torch to him today.

A few years ago, though, Obama wasn't as appreciative of the liberal lion.

Attending a 2003 AFL-CIO forum, the then-state senator took issue with the prescription drug bill Congress was putting together, which Kennedy was helping to negotiate.

"We gotta call not just Republicans," Obama said. "We gotta call up Ted Kennedy, and say, 'Ted, you're getting a little old now, and maybe, you been a fighter for us before. I don't know what's happening right now, Ted, get some spine. Stand up to the Republicans."

Watch the video HERE.

Ouch.

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Clarkansas Donating Member (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 08:25 PM
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1. TK must REALLY dislike Hillary then I guess.
Good for Obama.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 08:27 PM
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9. Good one
:thumbsup:
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 08:32 PM
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21. Power struggle betweeen the families. Obama is just the football this time.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 08:34 PM
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30. I said it early on, Obama would be a very easy candidate to manipulate.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 08:37 PM
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39. Where's the manipulation?
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 08:25 PM
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2. Evidently Ted has forgiven him.
So why bring this up now? If it doesn't bother Ted, why should it bother us?
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 08:27 PM
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8. hint- it's not about Ted. It's about Obama and that flip-flop thing
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 08:37 PM
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36. What flip-flop? He said TK needed to stand up to the Republicans. TK apparently agreed.
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 08:52 PM
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45. Obama wants to work with republicans! He thinks they are the party with the ideas
geez- pay attention, will ya?
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 08:56 PM
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46. Here, you missed this:
:sarcasm:
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 08:26 PM
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3. Wow look he was right again!
Good judgement O
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 08:26 PM
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4. stand up to the republicans sounds like a decent admonishment
how often do people including senators agree on every thing. Thats only the republicans who act like lemmings and follow the leader off the cliff.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 08:26 PM
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5. It clearly didn't bother Teddy- at all, and he's the one Obama's words
were directed at.
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Maven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 08:26 PM
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6. 2003? That's, like, ancient history dude!
;)
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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 08:26 PM
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7. Oh shit please tell me he didn't say that. Wow...eom
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 08:28 PM
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11. watch the video in the link. nt
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 08:29 PM
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12. Obviously telling Kennedy to stand up to the republicans
Edited on Mon Jan-28-08 08:29 PM by tammywammy
is horrible.

:eyes:
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Tarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 08:32 PM
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22. Obviously hypocrisy is acceptable in the Obama camp
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 08:33 PM
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26. ...
:eyes:
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 08:28 PM
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10. Maybe Ted is suffering from memory problems.
That could explain things.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 08:35 PM
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32. *You* are suffering memory problems, ultimately Kennedy voted against the bill
Edited on Mon Jan-28-08 08:36 PM by CreekDog
He tried to work with Republicans to fashion a bill he could support, but frustratingly ended up opposing it after he could not make it the leglislation the way he wanted it to be.

He had quite the spine.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 08:38 PM
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40. I'm talking about Obama's insults toward him.
Sheeeh, such a sensitive little baby.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 08:41 PM
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42. Actually that shows character, not faulty memory
And Kennedy, rather than being insulted by a comment Obama made in his direction, was instead insulted by what the Clintons did to the voters in general.
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Flabbergasted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 08:29 PM
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13. Perhaps because, as often happens, the moment was taken of of context.
Kennedy was not offended at the statment. He knew Obama was trying to get the issue moving in the right direction.
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 08:30 PM
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16. A quote taken out of context
On DU?!?!?! Never!
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Meshuga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 08:30 PM
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14. Send this to Ted Kennedy to see if he cares
He apparently doesn't care. So why would anybody else care?
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 08:30 PM
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15. Teddy probably admires that tenacity in Obama. Why not?
It probably made him laugh.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 08:30 PM
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17. Hey that was 4 years ago, way before Obama even became a Senator
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 08:30 PM
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18. Jealous?
You'll get over it.
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Nailzberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 08:31 PM
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19. Teddy knew what he meant.
Come on, Ted. Gather your sword and shield, we need you in the fight.


A lot of the old guard Dems have tired of the battles the last two decades have forced them to fight. And along comes this new, young, energetic officer riding onto the battlefield. Teddy got the message, he wasn't offended.
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Bread and Circus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 08:31 PM
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20. I think it's up to Ted Kennedy to decide the merits of that statement
and apparently he's ok with it.

And like someone else said he must REALLY NOT LIKE Hillary and I would imagine it's for a good reason.
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 08:32 PM
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23. OH SNAP
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bidenista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 08:32 PM
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24. "you're getting a little old now"
Ugh. That does sound ageist and patronizing. Still, TK obviously saw past it - assuming he was aware.
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 08:43 PM
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43. Clinton supporters find a nice time to talk of ageism...
If I had a nickle for every characterization of Obama supporters as just "pimple faced youngsters" I would be able run to out bid romney for the repuke nomination. All here on DU is how young and misguided Obama supporters are. Give me a break.
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bidenista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 09:08 PM
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48. i'm not a "clinton supporter"
But you enjoy your whine. Some cheese to go with it?
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 08:32 PM
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25. Damn, video link here:
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 08:33 PM
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27. HOLY CRAP THIS THREAD EXPLODED IN 2 MINUTES
Damn when I posted there were no replies.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 08:34 PM
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28. Obama was right and so was Kennedy. He voted against the bill, ultimately.
Try reciting the full story next time.

That will have less impact, but it is more honest.

But thanks for playing. :hi:
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 08:34 PM
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29. I suppose he respects Obama's fire.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 08:35 PM
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31. Well...He Is Old... His Spine, I Wouldn't Know...
:shrug:
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 08:36 PM
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33. Kennedy and Obama discussing Hillary:


Click image for more!


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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 08:36 PM
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34. Yep. I love TK, but think he might have had one too many. nt
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 08:36 PM
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35. You guys are getting super desperate
Trotting this stuff out again.
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 08:37 PM
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37. you mean watch that 13 second video
that doesn't have any context or any part of his speech that came after that, or indicates whether or not he was joking?
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 08:37 PM
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38. Funniest find of the day. Thanks.
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ErnestoG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 08:39 PM
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41. The Senator with the longest running liberal record needs a spine?
Wow, are you recommending yourself as his personal trainer and life coach too?
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 08:50 PM
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44. "You're getting a little old now." More inclusive language of HOPE from Obama.
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 08:58 PM
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47. I forgot all about that.
Hmmmmm.......curious.
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 09:25 PM
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49. I almost did. nt
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 09:30 PM
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50. It would be interesting to see which DUers bashing Obama over this
were just bashing Kennedy. Faux outrage much?
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lojasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 09:39 PM
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51. Kudoes to both of them...
To obama for speaking truth to power, and to Kennedy for recognizing courage and leadership in Obama.
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sjdnb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:08 PM
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52. A Kennedy played like a fiddle
but, after NCLB, the Medicare fiasco, and all the other nuzzling up/supporting TK did of Bush during Bush's first term, I'm can't say I'm surprised.
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:12 PM
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53. Kennedy ain't the only one being played....
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:23 PM
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54. Clearly they have setteled their differences since then.
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:26 PM
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Sounds good to me if Barack is going to straight talk his party.
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:26 PM
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55. Sounds good to me if Barack is going to straight talk his party.
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smalll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:31 PM
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56. The O-man exhibits a pattern of ageism. He drops these little generational bombs
quite regularly it seems.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:36 PM
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57. Yup but the media never calls him on it right now. They will if he is the nominee
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:50 PM
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58. "you're getting old"
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BigBearJohn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 11:22 PM
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59. So, Obama spits in TK's eye and TK now endorses him? Sounds neurotic to me.
All the more reason to support John Edwards.
I used to admire Kennedy. No longer.
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Hoof Hearted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 11:25 PM
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60. Ouch indeed. n/t
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