Obama Campaign: No Snub Intended (Hillary's surrogates distraction from disgusting)

[ProSense]

Obama Campaign: No Snub Intended

On “Morning Joe,” Obama chief strato-man Axelrod said The Snub wasn’t a snub, but simply a matter of Obama dealing with the “awkwardness” of the day and wanting to give Kennedy and Clinton a private moment.

Press buzz, pix suggested Obama purposely turned away from Clinton as she shook Sen. Kennedy’s hand at the State of the Union speech.

Plus: The Hill notes the momentous exchange between 43 and a possible 44: “Hey buddy, how’s it going?” Bush said to Obama on the way out of the House chambers.

"'Awkwardness'of the day" was when the disgusting Marcia Pappas, NOW-NYS, claimed that Kennedy's endorsement was a: Psychological Gang Bang of Hillary is Proof We Need a Woman President, which was followed by damage control: Statement of NOW President Kim Gandy.

[aquart]

1. The CHIEF strategizer had to deal with this mess?

All I ask is, in the second when Ted was stretching out his hand and Obama was deliberately turning away, a big fat "UH OH!" raced thru Teddy's mind.

[KennedyGuy]

2. Very troubling on Obamas part...

[BenDavid]

3. Yeah, right obama....you just showed the nation what a vindictive

prick you are. you had a moment that would have extended the good of the day you receive from the kennedy endorsement, but you showed no class and the nation saw it.

But the nation saw HRC come into their tv screens all smiles and happy and greeting folks and folks greeting her..The lasting image of the day is a positive for HRC and a negative for you.....

[Bodhi BloodWave]

6. Yea, how DARE he give Hillary and Ted some privacy n/t

[mondo joe]

12. Yeah - keep repeating it, like anyone will believe it.

Just accept that he fucked up and move on.

[BigDDem]

15. Right! Nothing says "privacy"

like a State of the Union speech on every channel!
Nice try. :rofl:

[Bodhi BloodWave]

28. people can still have privacy in a crowded room

if they wish to exchange greetings and/or some small words, and i could understand that Obama wouldn't want to stay close while they did so(awkward situation since the two of them are friends and that there might be some slight friction because of him)

[Bake]

33. Because it was an AWKWARD moment??

That gives one a lot of confidence in someone who would have to face a lot of "awkward moments" as President. OK, actually it doesn't give me a lot of confidence ...

Bake

[MethuenProgressive]

4. Scumbag Axelrod admits it was on purpose!! "Obama also maneuvered himself to shake Bush's hand."

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/01/realpals.html
Obama also maneuvered himself to shake Bush's hand. They exchanged smiles and, in the true Texas style of governors greeting legislators, Bush said, "Hey, buddy, how's it going?"
:puke:

[Gloria]

22. The same Axelrod who denied the appeal to GOP voters in Nevada even

as the radio ads were playing???? Could it be??? :sarcasm:

[suston96]

5. I don't believe for one minute that Obama snubbed Hillary.....

...way too uncool. But give me 5 minutes and I'll get back to you.

[busymom]

7. so now

Obama is baically admitting that an exchange could have happened but that it was awkward. He would have been better off saying he hadn't seen her or someone had called his name and he turned away.... :shrug:

[SteppingRazor]

8. How soon till Hillary supporters start referring to Obama as "Bush's buddy"?

:popcorn:

[oasis]

9. Obama had a chance to exhibit decency/diplomacy. He blew it. (eom)

[MethuenProgressive]

10. ...weeks ago.

The facade has fallen away from the Fairy Tale Prince.

[intheozone]

11. Once again, Obama appears to be very thin-skinned!

Not good, not at all for someone who wants to be next President.

[Tellurian]

23. It all works as long as he's the Dictator...

and Cheney is the Dictator's remote puppetmaster, sitting at home typing out the orders of the day.
So tell me, how would Kennedy and Kerry control the newly elected Obama?

[NashVegas]

13. Snub, Awkward, Doesn't Matter

If Obama is elected POTUS, he's going to have to learn to deal with awkward moments. You know, like trying to go out through the in door, barfing on people's laps, etc.

[Benhurst]

25. One of the problems of youthful drug abuse is the failure of the indulging young person to confront

issues and mature accordingly.

We certainly have had an example of the consequences of such behavior over the past eight years. Despite all the feel-good rhetoric, it looks as though we may be setting ourselves up for more of the same.

[Bluerthanblue]

27. oh that's just bullshit and you know it-

sounds like a Rush limbaugh stretch-

:shrug:

[Benhurst]

31. Bullshit yourself. Grown men -- and one would certainly expect

United States Senators -- do not act that way. For what ever reason, he needs to grow up. And my statement stands, as it applies to George Walker Bush and Senator Obama.

[Bluerthanblue]

34. HUMAN BEINGS are not immune from

error, or having their actions misinterpreted- regardless of their SEX-MATURITY- OCCUPATION-FAME-

Mature human beings, who have true integrity, don't slander others, based on their own personal prejudices and political leanings.

I don't know what happened between Hillary and Barrack- only they do. I would have rather they had been able to greet each other politely- but they didn't. You choose to use this incident to attack the one you do not like. I refuse to blame either one of them, as, it really IS something that is between them- not us.

Your attempt to use this incident to drag Barrack down by mentioning his previous ADMITTED- drug use speaks volumes about your own past, if your statement were to have any actual relevant merit. Not to mention what it says about so many of the posters on DU.

Obama has taken responsibility for his past bad choices. He doesn't excuse it, or deny it, minimize it, or try and hide it.

How many politicians can you name who do that?

peace~

[Benhurst]

35. Barack Obama has admitted his past drug use and given us his version of it.

Whether it is a full one or protective cover, I have no way of knowing, nor do you. Whatever the case, it might, though, explain his his behavior last night, which was shockingly immature.

My mentioning his past drug experimentation hardly drags him down since he has written about it himself. As you point out he doesn't excuse it, or deny it, minimize it to our knowledge, or try and hide it. Therefore there is no reason it can't be talked about.

I hope his past behavior was not as destructive as George W. Bush's, for Dubya is undoubtedly continuing to manifest problems associated with his abuse. But Obama, himself, has made his own drug use a matter of public record, so it is certainly something open to discussion. The corporate media for the time being is giving him a pass. If he gets our party's nomination, his past drug use will not only be discussed, but investigated as well.

John Kerry's heroic Vietnam war record was turned by the corporate media against him, while it continued to hide AWOL Bush's cowardly behavior. And Al Gore's words were twisted by the press in such a way to make his genuine accomplishment look foolish.

Do you really think Obama is going to be given a pass on his past drug use?


Adolescent drug experimentation often does have harmful side effects and interfere with the maturation process at a crucial time in one's development. While Senator Obama may not have suffered such impairment, last night's behavior certainly gives reason for concern. The past eight years under an impaired president have been eight years too many.

But even, as I hope, Senator Obama survived his youthful indiscretions relatively unscathed, he is still not out of the woods. When the corporate media turns on him, which it will, no quarter will be given. He has given them a club and don't kid yourself they won't use it.

[Bluerthanblue]

36. I'm not going to keep running round in circles with you. It is

pretty clear we aren't going to come to any mutual agreement.

You can talk around the issue all you like. You were using this hand-shake issue to beat up on a candidate you clearly have no liking or respect for. Do you always assume the worst of everyone? (yeah, he was above board about his drug use, but was it accurate?) :shrug: You may want to really ask yourself if you have some unconscious personal prejudices at work here.

You excuse your negative spin by saying "wait till the corporate media turns on him"- as if that is the compass you us to guide your life- If it is, I sincerely pity you. All the youthful drug use in the world, isn't going to match that-


peace~

[Benhurst]

37. Oh, well. Some don't don't want to live in a reality based world.

No matter how we all feel about the corporate media, it is a very real and dangerous part of our lives.

But drink the Kool-Aid and be prepared for four more years of Republican rule.

[milkyway]

32. You shouldn't say such nasty things about the Clintons.

[Gloria]

14. He is SULLEN...he's either pissed at Kennedy for shaking her hand

or just angry at Clinton for reaching out.

He really is like a teenager sometimes....That picture in the other story thread is really something....dare I say "a pout?"

[KennedyGuy]

18. Wow..that might be it..

"Hey ted..you're supposed to be with ME"!

[Cameron27]

19. Sullen

that's a good description. He often looks sullen and arrogant.

[Gloria]

24. Yes, the word SULLEN is exactly the right description for his face

when he's angry. It's not very appealing, is it?? SNIDE is another good word. He was snide when he made the "likability" remark at the debate...

For him to be this pouty over Kennedy's handshake (forget Clinton, it's Kennedy he's steamed over) then make nice with Bush shows what he is is...not for me!!

[mrreowwr_kittty]

30. Uppity.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

29. Another DUer with the amazing ability to psychoanalyze from photos.

Maybe you and Bill Frist can go into a partnership diagnosing people from a distance. :eyes:

[shaniqua6392]

16. It seems like it is not Clinton making a big deal out of this at all.

I have seen numerous articles in the media this morning that say Obama snubbed Clinton and it looked bad. In any case, it was really bad for the party. What is Kennedy going to do if she becomes the President? He should have just stayed out of it or kept the endorsement more low key like everyone else has. I have yet to see any of the other people who have endorsed a candidate get an entire day of media coverage.

[zulchzulu]

17. Hillaryworld is being absolutely dishonest about this STUPID handshake bullshit

I don't expect anything less than inane half-witted arguments from the Hillaryworld camp.

[Gloria]

21. So, I guess Kennedy is too, since he reached toward her, too?

It's called politics. Sort of like when Obama panders to Repubicans, in the same way.

Note: I am NOT a Hillary supporter!

[Rosa Luxemburg]

20. Buddy!

[hfojvt]

26. you mixed up the NOW statements

Kennedy was betraying all women by not sponsoring Hillary. This was two weeks after her opponents and the male press "gangbanged" her in New Hampshire.

[Medusa]

38. Look if this is all they got

they got nothing. And when you support Hillary excuse me, Billary, nothing is exactly what you'll get.

[TheDeathadder]

39. I'm 100% for HRC

but I'm not going to get all tied up on if it was or was not a snubbed hand shake. What that bastard Bush said at the State of The Union got me more mad then the idea of a snub. If Obama said he didn't snub her, then fine. HRC is tough to survive it even if it was. I don't see any point to wasting on time of a hand shake, there's so much more to be concerned with. This topic is just going to widen the divide between the Clinton and Obama people, and I don't see how that is productive.