Obama's goofy snub of Hillary was most likely suggested by his mentor and hero, Joe Lieberman

[mtnsnake]

without the shadow of a doubt. Everyone is talking about the negative effect that Lieberman is having on Obama's personality.

Two can play at this game.

[Dogmudgeon]

1. I thought Obama was greatly opposed to Lieberman

Linky linky?

That's not a citation fight. I'd like to see it.

--p!

[MNDemNY]

3. Read Obama's book HE calls him his mentor.

[Political Heretic]

5. Have you read his book? Shouldn't be hard to at least give a page number then.

...let's see it.

Because I can't find it.

[Occam Bandage]

8. Yes, Lieberman was assigned to be his "mentor."

The two did not have any sort of special relationship.

[Graybeard]

11. Right. The Senate assigns veterans to newbies...

...to show them the ropes. The incoming Senator has no say in the choice.

[VarnettaTuckpocket]

13. No choice?

That seems to be in dispute, because I've heard Obama did choose him.

[2rth2pwr]

27. Okay, here we go again. Why do people always want to deny this?

"Obama had been assigned Lieberman as "mentor". Read the Hartford Courant and you'll find Lieberman boasting that Obama picked him.

Either way, it's obvious that Obama could have brokered a different mentor if he'd so desired it, same way he could have declined to go and tout for Lieberman at that Democratic Party dinner in Connecticut at the end of March. But he clearly didn't, because he wanted to send out a reassuring signal, same way as his Political Action Committee, the Hope Fund's, is raising money for 14 of his senatorial colleagues ­ ten of whom are DLC in orientation, which is half of the DLC presence in the Senate".
http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0424-33.htm

"The fact of the matter is, I know some in the party have differences with Joe. I'm going to go ahead and say it," Obama told the 1,700-plus party members who gathered in a ballroom at the Connecticut Convention Center for the $175-per-head fundraiser.

"I am absolutely certain Connecticut is going to have the good sense to send Joe Lieberman back to the U.S. Senate so he can continue to serve on our behalf," he said.

Obama received widespread attention for his keynote address at the 2004 Democratic National Convention, delivered while he was still a state senator.

Lieberman became Obama's mentor when Obama was sworn into the Senate in 2005. They stayed close at Thursday night's event, too, entering the room together and working the crowd in tandem. http://www.boston.com/news/local/connecticut/articles/2006/03/31/obama_rallies_state_democrats_throws_support_behind_lieberman

Should Obama hope to continue to enjoy his free ride, he should consult his old mentor Joe Lieberman, the senator from Connecticut who used to be a Democrat.
http://www.salon.com/opinion/conason/2007/12/21/right_and_obama

However, now he has tossed many of those progressives aside. I guess that is what happens when soon-to-be ex-Senator Lieberman becomes your mentor. Hopefully, after August 8th, Obama can start taking lessons on how to be a progressive from someone else besides Lieberman. http://www.mydd.com/story/2006/6/28/132718/681

Here is Obama, endlessly hailed as the brightest rising star in the Democratic firmament, delivering (at a closely watched political dinner, with Lieberman's primary opponent, Ned Lamont, sitting in the crowd) a ringing endorsement of his "mentor," Lieberman, Bush's closest Democratic ally on the Iraq War, one of the architects of welfare "reform" and overall pretty much a symbol of everything that's been wrong with the Democratic Party for the past twenty years. What a slimy fellow Obama is, as befits a man symbolizing everything that will continue to be wrong with the Democratic Party for the next twenty years.
http://www.thenation.com/docprint.mhtml?i=20060424&s=cockburn

It was unfortunate that Senator Lieberman played a mentor role to Obama when Obama was first elected to the U.S. Senate.
http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/cgi-bin/blogs/voices.php/2008/01/05/change_is_about_policies_not_speeches_or

[movonne]

2. I think lieberman is hillary's friend..the DLC and all...

[Adelante]

4. Oh, not you, tooooooooooooooo

Feh.

[mtnsnake]

9. Thank the silly losers who started all of this.

[cali]

6. why would you want to? n/t

[rucky]

7. Remember when Obama snubbed Ted Kennedy?

Just sayin'

[dionysus]

10. he's actually getting secret advice from...

Brewer and Shipley!

this time in Greek!

ένα toke πέρα από το γλυκό mtnsnake γραμμών, ένα toke πέρα από τη γραμμή.
στεμένος κεντρικός στο DLC σταθμό, ένα toke πέρα από τη γραμμή...

[chieftain]

30. DU seems to have gone "One Toke Over The Line"

That's my all time favorite Brewer and Shipley song.

[CherylK]

12. This is what we call a non-story

Nothing of substance to discuss.

[Graybeard]

14. Hi CherylK. Welcome to DU.

Silly isn't it?

[mtnsnake]

15. as is 99% of the shit that comes rolling thru here lately

Welcome to DU, though :)

[dionysus]

16. ...

ένα toke πέρα από το γλυκό mtnsnake γραμμών, ένα toke πέρα από τη γραμμή.
:hi:

[mtnsnake]

20. I'm going to stay awake all night long figuring out a way to get even with you, chum

:hi:

[dionysus]

22. i was at delta sonic and they played the song that would do it,

but you won't guess it in a milllllion years :)

[CherylK]

18. Thank you both! :)

[AndyA]

17. Barack did endorse Joe Lieberman for Senate in the last Connecticut primary.

He supported Ned Lamont in the general, but he did in fact endorse Lieberman first.

Not a good choice, he should have known better, since Joe had long since shown his true (GOP and Bush lovin') colors at that point.

[Alexander]

23. So did everyone in the Democratic party.

Face it, it was a primary, Lieberman was the incumbent, and most Senators figured they'd have to work with him.

It's not a matter of liking him, it's a matter of not pissing off one's Senate colleagues.

[AndyA]

31. Not really everyone in the Democratic Party.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Endorsements_for_Joe_Lieberman_in_the_2006_Connecticut_Senate_Race

[tridim]

19. I hear Satan is his mentor and hero too.

But maybe that was just a Hillbot's wet dream.

[Cant trust em]

21. I'd think that pro IWR Clinton would have more in common

with Lieberman.

[NYCGirl]

24. They've worked together recently against those evil video games:

http://blog.wired.com/games/2007/11/clinton-lieberm.html

Along with Bayh and Brownback, no less.

[surfermaw]

25. What about when Obama looked to see if Hillary was clapping for something

That wasn't mentioned, didn't he know what to aplaud

[NYCGirl]

28. Here's someone who said Clinton looked to follow Obama's lead:

Clinton and Obama’s divergent views on the troop surge in Iraq, however, were plainly visible.

When Bush proclaimed, “Ladies and gentlemen, some may deny the surge is working, but among terrorists there is no doubt,” Clinton sprang to her feet in applause but Obama remained firmly seated. The president’s line divided most of the Democratic audience, with nearly half standing to applaud and the other half sitting in stony silence.

In one instance Clinton appeared to gauge Obama’s response before showing her own.

When Bush warned the Iranian government that “America will confront those who threaten our troops, we will stand by our allies, and we will defend our vital interests in the Persian Gulf” Obama jumped up to applaud. Clinton leaned across Sen. Joseph Biden (D-Del.), seated to her left, to look in Obama’s direction before slowly standing.

http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/clinton-obama-steal-bushs-final-show-2008-01-29.html

[DianaForRussFeingold]

26. K&R-- Seems like they are playing the same game

Wolf Blizer asked him about his support for Lieberman and he changed the subject..

Obama on Lieberman- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Docxj3b5xY8

"He has mastered the game instead of the ideals, applies his genius to playing the angles instead of changing the world for the better."
Joe Lieberman: Barack Obama's "Mentor in the Senate."
http://vichydems.blogspot.com/2006/04/joe-lieberman-barack-obamas-mentor-in.html

What Obama Really Meant- Great post by lwcon
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=4194873




Will Obama filibuster FISA? If NOT, WHY?

Will the only Constitutional scholar in the race take a stand on retroactive immunity ? '

http://www.correntewire.com/will_the_only_constitutional_scholar_in_the_race_take_a_stand_on_retroactive_immunity_for_the_telcos
Obama fans are welcome :hi: http://blog.johnedwards.com/story/2008/1/28/102241/477
Great Music Video-The Edwards Revolution http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZxOYF9ZAe0
Edwards memo reveals game plan to win the nomination http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4252008

[elixir2]

29. Obama and Lieberman?!!! Obama better dump Joementum before real damage! I thought JL was with McCain

[krabigirl]

32. I can see the effect the mentor Lieberman had on him.

Too much talk about working with and wooing Republicans...wow, sounds like Lieberman.