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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 01:46 PM
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NY Sun: Barack Obama within 4 points of HRC in NYC.
Edited on Tue Jan-29-08 01:46 PM by Occam Bandage
Capturing your opponent's home town would be a huge symbolic win, if you ask me.

A WNBC/Marist poll released last week found that although Mrs. Clinton had a 47% to 31% lead over Mr. Obama among likely New York State voters, he was far closer in New York City, drawing 39% of likely voters versus 43% for Senator Clinton. In recent weeks, Mr. Obama's support has been surging among black voters, a demographic he won 4 to 1 in South Carolina, according to exit polls, and whose turnout and support would likely be crucial in New York City...

"If you look at the fact that Jesse Jackson in 1988 won New York City with a coalition of diverse supporters that is not as diverse as we think Senator Obama would be able to put together, I think he has a very good chance of winning New York City," he said. "New York City, with a population of 8 million people, has a tremendous amount of delegates, more than many states. Winning New York City is the equivalent of winning several rural or southern states combined, and so the importance of a victory in the five boroughs cannot be overstated."


http://www.nysun.com/article/70277
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 01:49 PM
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1. Is New York City her home town? I didn't think she lived in NYC.
Edited on Tue Jan-29-08 01:49 PM by xultar
If it is it would be a great catch for Obama or Edwards.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 01:51 PM
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3. Chicago is her home town, through Little Rock.
She currently lives less than an hour outside of NYC.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 01:53 PM
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4. k thanks for the info.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 01:53 PM
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5. Not historically, but it is at the moment.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 01:54 PM
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7. Just like Illinois is for Obama.
Wouldn't he have made a great senator from Hawaii?
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 01:57 PM
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11. Exactly.
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dmallind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 01:57 PM
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9. I don't think Westchester qualifies as NYC NT
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 02:00 PM
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13. Chappaqua in Westchester County- to be precise
and it doesn't, but it's not far from NYC and Bill's office is there.
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dmallind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 02:03 PM
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17. Sorry - missed the "Co" bit
And again I'm sure Hillary will come equally close to Obama in some IL cities. What's next - worrying about who takes what subdivision?
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 02:52 PM
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21. I was simply giving you correct information
I'm from that neck of the woods originally. I could actually care less about this stuff. Don't be so sensitive.
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dmallind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 03:55 PM
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24. Didn't know it seemed I was sensitive
Just responding to the original idea that this is all that relevant. In all sincerity I appreciate the refined info.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 01:49 PM
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2. K&R! I live in NY (Rockland County), and he has more support now than he did in the summer judging
by the small number of people I know.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 01:53 PM
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6. Oh, look! He's going to win New York!
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dmallind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 01:58 PM
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12. Yeah, and I'm sure Hillary and maybe even Edwards won some cities in SC too
However in general primary results are reported at least in the media at a state level.
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featherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 01:56 PM
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8. Keep it as close as possible...win some delegates
Clinton will win NY (her state),
Obama will win IL (his base, her birth state)
Clinton will win CA (my state)

The other 19 states are anybody's guess at this point
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Tarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 01:57 PM
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10. Hah, the Sun makes the NY Post look liberal
Interesting to see what strange bedfellows are lining up in the Obama camp these days.
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 02:01 PM
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14. If Hillary has a rally in NYC the primaries are likely going to be over
I am not sure it is that clese...but if it is....She is going to get alot of pressure to step aside.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 02:02 PM
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15. Sweet!
:bounce:
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 02:03 PM
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16. Uh oh, if O loses by 4 pts in NY, it'll be considered a win for him. nt
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dmallind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 02:05 PM
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18. Once more with feeling, NYC ≠ NYS n/t
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 02:06 PM
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19. Worth noting:
It was released last week. Here is another version of the story:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20080121/poll-2008-ny/">NY Poll Shows McCain Leading Giuliani (Huffington Post)
OF INTEREST:

McCain is leading Giuliani in the former New York mayor's home state. While 51 percent of Giuliani's backers say they are firmly committed to him, only 35 percent of McCain's supporters strongly back him. Of registered Republicans, 46 percent think McCain is most likely to beat the Democratic presidential nominee in November.

Clinton and Obama are competing for votes in New York City, where half the state's Democratic voters live. Clinton has 43 percent there compared with 39 percent for Obama. Of likely Democratic primary voters, 59 percent believe Clinton, a New York senator, has the best chance to defeat the Republican nominee.

The WNBC 4/Marist poll was conducted by phone from Jan. 15 to Jan 17. It involved interviews with 1,467 registered voters in New York and had a margin of error of plus or minus 3 percent.
It will be interesting to see how this goes. On the one hand, the trend is clearly Obama's, but on the other hand, this polling was done a few days after the Cuomo "shuck and jive" incident which broke on January 10th. There was a brief drop in HRC's numbers that week over a number of three-day "scandals".

Wonks in all camps may be interested in these details. I am not sure there are many of us here any more.

--p!
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 02:08 PM
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20. Worth noting, Deux:
The candidates make extensive use of internal polling that nobody sees. I wonder what those numbers are showing -- and how wrong they will turn out to be -- ?

--p!
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 03:04 PM
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22. NY SUN? The NY Post for intellectuals? (which nobody buys as a result) Sigh
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 03:08 PM
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23. OBAMA!
K&R.
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