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Ediacara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 03:59 PM Original message |
Obama has my vote if he wants it. There's just one condition |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 04:03 PM Response to Original message |
1. So, who will you be voting for? |
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Ediacara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 04:09 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. I don't know |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 04:12 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Hope for a deadlocked convention. |
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dbackjon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 04:05 PM Response to Original message |
2. Bravo! I feel similarly |
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swoop (169 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 04:07 PM Response to Original message |
3. Have Hillary or Edwards rejected that message also? |
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Ediacara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 04:12 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. I don't know |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 04:11 PM Response to Original message |
5. On the Biden thing, you are aware that straight people can get HIV, too. |
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Ediacara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 04:17 PM Response to Reply #5 |
10. Did you catch the debate that Tavis Smiley moderated? |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 04:25 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. Yes, I did see it. And I laughed, because he was pointing out that he was faithful |
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Ediacara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 04:27 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. Uh.... the implication that I got (and everyone else I've talked to who saw the debate) |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 04:42 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. I stand by what I said. And here on DU, there were lots of people who thought |
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Ediacara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 04:45 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. If you say so |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 04:15 PM Response to Original message |
8. Good luck on that |
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Ediacara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 04:20 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. You're right, it is disheartening |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 04:24 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. When he became a candidate I had hope for him |
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Ediacara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 04:39 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. He's had some moments where it sounds like he really understands the issue |
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Yanez Houston Jordan (317 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 04:16 PM Response to Original message |
9. I could also be won over with a full apology for McClurkin and a better health care plan. |
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butterfly77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 04:22 PM Response to Original message |
12. Add ed shultz to that list.. |
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butterfly77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 04:23 PM Response to Original message |
13. No one... |
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DiamondJay (484 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 04:43 PM Response to Original message |
19. Fahrakkan too |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 04:45 PM Response to Original message |
20. I agree, but most of his supporters here told me to "get over it", so don't hold your breath. |
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ErnestoG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 04:46 PM Response to Original message |
22. The fact that you recognize he is no homophobe should tell you all you need to know |
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Ediacara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 04:48 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. What? |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 05:04 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. You know, |
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ErnestoG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 06:54 PM Response to Reply #24 |
47. Did I stutter? |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 08:50 PM Response to Reply #47 |
67. This is not the Breakfast Club |
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Ediacara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 09:12 PM Response to Reply #47 |
72. Uh... I can't read your mind |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 04:47 PM Response to Original message |
23. He does not reject people, that's the point of his campaign |
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Ediacara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 04:51 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. We all know that's not true |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 04:58 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. He admonishes haters of all sorts |
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Ediacara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 05:23 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. He's accepted the endorsement of Caldwell, a minister that actually runs an ex-gay program |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 05:29 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. Last post |
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Ediacara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 05:40 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Well I'm sorry, I didn't realize I was dealing with a mind-reader here |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 05:47 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Wow. How do you think change has happened so far?? |
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Ediacara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 05:53 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. By confronting haters and convincing those without hate why hate cannot be tolerated |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 05:57 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. Ooooh, communication, I see |
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Ediacara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 05:58 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. How? How is Obama communicating to homophobes that homophobia is wrong? |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 06:09 PM Response to Reply #36 |
39. By SAYING IT |
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Ediacara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 06:15 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. I want him to tell Caldwell to fuck off. I want him to admit he made a mistake with McClurkin |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 06:19 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. Is that what MLK should have done? |
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Ediacara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 06:29 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. That's not an appropriate analogy and you know it |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 06:41 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. He spoke to agents of hate |
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Ediacara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 06:49 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. So should I give him a pass for having agents of hate campaign on his behalf? |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 06:54 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. He offered very clear criticism |
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Ediacara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 06:56 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. What did McClurkin do if it wasn't campaigning on his behalf? |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 07:14 PM Response to Reply #48 |
52. My god, the campaign did say that |
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Ediacara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 08:22 PM Response to Reply #52 |
58. That's one step in the right direction, but Obama needs to take several more |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 08:32 PM Response to Reply #58 |
61. So you would have spit in JFK's face |
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Ediacara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 08:47 PM Response to Reply #61 |
64. Back to that hilariously bad analogy again? |
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okasha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 08:44 PM Response to Reply #31 |
63. It started when the Stonewall queens fought back |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 08:49 PM Response to Reply #63 |
65. With baseball bats or words?? |
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Ediacara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 09:14 PM Response to Reply #65 |
73. The post where you equated JFK to McClurkin? |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 09:36 PM Response to Reply #73 |
77. Yeah, JFK said some stupid stuff about racism |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 07:41 PM Response to Reply #29 |
54. Talking to them is not what Obama did |
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terrya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 06:00 PM Response to Reply #23 |
37. I have nothing to say to the "ex-gay" people. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 06:59 PM Response to Reply #23 |
49. And yet he said he would not appear on Don Imus's show and called for his firing. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 07:16 PM Response to Reply #49 |
53. Yeah, Don Imus is a flat out bigoted asshole |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 07:52 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. You are defending McClurkin. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 08:07 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. That sounds pretty misguided to me |
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Ediacara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 08:25 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. Split hairs much? |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 09:27 PM Response to Reply #57 |
75. Don't try to claim |
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Ediacara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 08:24 PM Response to Reply #53 |
59. There is absolutely no element of "love" in the ex-gay paradigm |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 08:34 PM Response to Reply #59 |
62. No, it isn't |
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Ediacara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 08:49 PM Response to Reply #62 |
66. I'm afraid not |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 08:58 PM Response to Reply #66 |
71. Tammy Faye Baker too? |
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Ediacara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 09:18 PM Response to Reply #71 |
74. Did Tammy Faye support ex-gay programs? |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 09:35 PM Response to Reply #74 |
76. It's motivated by ignorance |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 09:52 PM Response to Reply #62 |
79. The "Ex-Gay" industry is a nothing but hate |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-30-08 09:01 AM Response to Reply #62 |
81. "...to help people", yeah, by abusing them... |
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Scriptor Ignotus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 05:55 PM Response to Original message |
33. I'm friends with people who are bigoted and homophobic |
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Ediacara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 05:57 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. There's a difference between trying to change a friend's mind |
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Scriptor Ignotus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 09:40 PM Response to Reply #35 |
78. did Obama get McClurkin on stage because |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 06:00 PM Response to Reply #33 |
38. He could have done it without embracing child abusers who deserve jailtime over anything else... |
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Maven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 06:11 PM Response to Reply #33 |
40. Do you have friends who make a second career out of spreading homophobia? |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 07:00 PM Response to Reply #33 |
50. And if you give them a free forum to spew bigoted lies, that's a problem. |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 07:01 PM Response to Original message |
51. Hmmm..I don't think he's homophobic, but he's born-again. ro |
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okasha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 08:56 PM Response to Reply #51 |
70. No, it wouldn't be against his religion. |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 08:06 PM Response to Original message |
56. Good luck with that, lol. n/t |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 08:51 PM Response to Original message |
68. Fair enough. |
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Tulkas (592 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 08:52 PM Response to Original message |
69. It sounds like you hate Donnie... how is that rejecting hate Unconditionally? |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-29-08 09:54 PM Response to Original message |
80. No doubt he should do as you say in any case but he has no chance of being elected. |
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