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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:12 PM
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How did Obama manage to get STOMPED in Florida as the ONLY candidate running ads for weeks?
Huge advantage to run ads when your opponents are abiding by their pledges. He still got stomped. Why?
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fenriswolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:13 PM
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1. I dunno I guess hillary is just that good?
is that the answer you were fishing for?
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ursi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:13 PM
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2. that's funny, I have friends down there and they said Hillary had ads
they never saw any of Obama's ads.
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jonnywishbone97 Donating Member (207 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:14 PM
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4. I live in the panhandle and I see OSCAMA every night
on CNN and even comedy central. Tell your friends to stop kidding themselves.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:16 PM
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9. So the Hillary ads they saw were all in their heads?
M'kay.
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:17 PM
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12. yes they were because Hillary ran no ads in Florida and neither did Edwards.
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:38 PM
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33. OSCAMA???
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 10:16 PM
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34. Yeah, and he's a big poopie head as well
(sigh)
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KennedyGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:14 PM
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5. And I talked to someone who thought they heard someone say they thought they saw a Hill ad
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:18 PM
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17. Good for you. Perhaps you shouldn't listen to stuff that's 4th hand though
Edited on Tue Jan-29-08 09:19 PM by LittleClarkie
Where as this is only once removed. What are you suggesting about your fellow DUer? That's a hell of a way to get votes for your candidate.

So everyone's wrong if they're saying something about Hillary, eh? Can't just have a disagreement. Nah, have to assume anyone who doesn't support Hillary has something wrong with them.
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KennedyGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:22 PM
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23. those are your words..not mine
I never said anything like that. Funny you should bring it up though...
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:24 PM
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25. Well, you're making fun of someone you don't know, calling their reliability into question
merely because they don't support your candidate. What would you call it.
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KennedyGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:25 PM
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I never did any such thing..
seems to me you are doing the same thing to me...
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Little Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:24 PM
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26. Edwards and Hillary only ran state adds to obey the rules.
They had no Florida adds. Chicago Slick, ran national adds so that he could go oops, they had to run in Florida. He was the only one who broke DNC rules.
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Nailzberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:16 PM
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7. Yes, she's been running on USA and CNN
I'm sure other cable outlets.

She had a surrogate doing robocalls, too.
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:18 PM
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13. No she didn't. nt
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Texas_Kat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:16 PM
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8. Nope
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:14 PM
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3. Retail politics will be the name of the game from here on out.
Including the GE. Obama will have great trouble playing the field to a win.
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Unsane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:15 PM
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6. Half the voters sent in ballots in December--largely before Obama entered the natl scene
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jonnywishbone97 Donating Member (207 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:17 PM
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11. wrong
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:18 PM
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16. Obama entered the national scene three years ago
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angie_love Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:16 PM
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10. easy
easy: very high name recognition. It is hard to go against 8 years of name recoginiton when Obama only came on the scene very recently. He had to fight harder to win the Iowa & SC so those wins are more meaningful considering once Obama is able to campaign in a state the more ppl like him.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:19 PM
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18. Obama has very high name recognition. His is higher than Edwards'
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angie_love Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:25 PM
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29. ..
Hillary has MUCH higher name recognition than Obama though. And Obama beat Edwards.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:36 PM
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31. It isn't much higher
The last figures I saw showed about a ten point gap.That was months ago. With the coverage Obama has gotten since then, especially since Iowa he should be very close. If it was just about name ID was is Obama 17 points ahead of Edwards? They are similar in name recognition, although Obama has gotten so much coverage he has higher name recognition than someone who ran last time and was the VP candidate.
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KaryninMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:18 PM
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14. Because he wasn't HERE to campaign. A few national TV ads do not really matter in the big picture.
She had an already established huge base and a huge- and I mean HUGE organization here. AND she's been here a lot all along as has Bill. Obama has been here a few times but certainly not hitting the streets- nor has John Edwards. I live here and I watch t.v. a lot. There were a few-- really not many- national ads for Obama- compared to the GOP ads they were few and far between- nothing to generate any excitement.

Obama has a small but strong group here working for him- not loud or anywhere near as massive as the Clinton machine but he does have support here. Had he been able to campaign at the universities and in the different neighborhoods around the state, he would have done much better. So would have John Edwards who I voted for but neither of them were able to campaign and that's why the result is what it is.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:20 PM
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20. They don't have TV, internet in Florida? newpapers? And how about them flyers?
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KaryninMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:25 PM
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27. Trust me- it was very quiet here - except from the Clinton camp for the most part.
The rule was no advertising- and aside from emails and notifications from the local Democratic groups announcing events on behalf of the candidates, that's all we saw from the Dems (besides the few national ads for Obama that leaked through because of the national media buys on CNN and MSNBC. We did not get phone calls (except for local issues), and aside from the local elected officials taking their respective places and making endorsement announcements (Reno, Nelson and Meek for Clinton, Wexler for Obama)-- there was very little action on the blue team.
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KaryninMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:25 PM
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28. Trust me- it was very quiet here - except from the Clinton camp for the most part.
The rule was no advertising- and aside from emails and notifications from the local Democratic groups announcing events on behalf of the candidates, that's all we saw from the Dems (besides the few national ads for Obama that leaked through because of the national media buys on CNN and MSNBC. We did not get phone calls (except for local issues), and aside from the local elected officials taking their respective places and making endorsement announcements (Reno, Nelson and Meek for Clinton, Wexler for Obama)-- there was very little action on the blue team.
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cd3dem Donating Member (927 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:18 PM
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15. the ads were showing his resume
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:20 PM
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19. I guess he is just a "fairy tale".
:rofl:
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Tulkas Donating Member (592 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:20 PM
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21. Clinton Surrogates Campaigned for her
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:21 PM
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22. a diverse electorate is deadly for Obama. nt.
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wisteria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:34 PM
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30. This amounts to a no win for Senator Clinton. n/t
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 09:36 PM
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32. Were the ads Obama sponsored or some 3rd-party group?
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