Do you really think America is ready for a woman or a black president?

[southernleftylady]

Do you think that we really have a chance to win against a white man?
your honest thoughts?

[cobalt1999]

1. In a year with a great economy and no war...not a chance.

This, however, is not a normal year.

[aquart]

2. 72 million Dems, 55 million Reps, 42 million Inds.

Learn to count.

[southernleftylady]

7. wow.. was that necessary? to be that rude?? nt

[AndyTiedye]

42. McCain Picks Up Most of the Independents (Against Either Candidate)

[Prefer]

3. there is only one way to find out

what do we have to lose anyway?

[Ken Burch]

4. Not sure. But I hope so.

Or we AND the country are screwed.

[ben_meyers]

5. Wouldn't that depend on who they were?

[xultar]

6. No. There are still people who won't sit next to a black person on a bus,

or grab their purses when they see a black person walking past, or follow a black person in a store. Black folk can hardly get cabs in this country.

There are still white people who won't invite a black person over to their house.

I see and experience too much shit, hear about and see too much shit to think this racist as fuck country would allow any one of any race other than white to be president.

Think about it, Britain is way more diverse than we are and they still haven't had a diverse prime minister.

[cali]

11. No Britain is not more diverse

I've spent a considerable amount of time there over the years as my mother lives there part of the year.

And if not now, when? There is never a "good" time to break through prejudice.

[xultar]

24. Bravo to that. I hope so. There is just so much shit on a day to day basis..

I just don't see it happening now. But maybe it is my slave mentality.

[billbuckhead]

14. Women or Hispanics maybe, blacks and gays less so, people named "Hussein"

Women or Hispanics maybe right now, blacks and gays less so, people named "Hussein" probably never.

[goodgd_yall]

45. I would also add to the readiness list

East Coast Jews and Italians. There's also a lot of prejudice in this country about having anyone from either of those 2 groups as President, IMO.

[cali]

8. do you really think there is some perfect time or even some better time

this is just like asking if America was ready for women to have the vote or for civil rights. In other words, it's craven.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

9. So are you saying we should nominate a white male instead?

Would you prefer a white male nominee, SLL?

[southernleftylady]

13. I was an edwards support but not because he was white male but he had a better message..

but I live in the south and i heard all the "it says in the bible that men should lead" and well.. do I even have to mention what is said about Obama down here???
I'm just hoping we have a chance because we CAN NOT deal with another repuke...
I hope america is better than I'm thinking it is... I am just hoping

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

You conveniently dodged my question.

So please answer, or I'll have to infer one.

[southernleftylady]

31. oh ffs... I don't know if THIS woman and THIS black man..

are the best we have right now...
but since they are all we have right now they are better than any white man that they have...
I don't care what color or sex anyone is and because I am a progressive liberal...
I DO NOT want a repuke in the office for the next 4 years.. anyone who can beat them is good with me at this point black , white or purple.. female male or BOTH...
But I see HUNDRED of people a day and seeing that many people and their ignorance out there is SCARY...
hearing the shit they say SCARES ME..
i know what we are up against.. and it SCARES ME...
I hope america isn't as ignorant as I think they are and I hope they prove me wrong!

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

33. Alright.

I've gone ahead and inferred.

[southernleftylady]

36. Then thats your problem! nt

[billbuckhead]

30. Is the goal winning or social engineering? If southern white guys can win for us

Is the goal winning or social engineering? If southern white guys can obviously and easily win for us, isn't it racism to pick someone else? The Republicans won't even have to cheat very much to beat :tinfoilhat:bama.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

32. Well I already know your opinion, Bill.

You've already told me the nominee shouldn't be a black person.

[mirrera]

10. Yes! That is if everyone gets over their heartbreak and fights the GOP!

We MUST remember that all these wonderful people that have been driven out can get back into our system with a Democratic White House. I just watched an awesome tribute to John Edwards and the others who have dropped out. (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x89146) I felt like crying my eyes out, but then I thought about all the crooks that ride the coat tails of the GOP, and realised again, all these great Democrats, us... we will have the chance to change things only with the White House. Yes both our candidates are miles above the GOP candidates. MILES! The only thing missing is our unity and strength. We always fracture. We try for perfect, which is admirable, but not if it brings us hell instead. I would be happier with good for a start.

[Tom Rinaldo]

12. Yes. Either, but especially a woman.

How often it goes unmentioned: Women are the Majority in America. And women have been turning out in record numbers to vote in the Democratic primaries. 3 women voted for every 2 men in the Democratic Primary just held in Florida (with about 1.5 million Democratic voters participating).

[southernleftylady]

20. Ive been flying so I haven't heard that number yet but WOW that is impressive thanks for ..

the knowledge!

[hayu_lol]

26. It appears that we are going to have either a black man or a white woman...

as our nominee. Ready or not? Yeah, we are ready and willing. The fat old white guys have not done a good job historically have they?

Indeed, we are ready and so is the bulk of the country.

[MonkeyFunk]

15. Very much

I'm very confident that our nominee will win in November. I honestly don't understand why anybody doubts it.

The country's a mess and people want change. This is the PERFECT year to run a woman or an African American.

[Hill_YesWeWill]

16. Absolutely! now please

stop trying to sow seeds of doubt, it's very undemocratic

[no name no slogan]

17. yes, and yes.

nt

[AlertLurker]

18. It all depends on what your definition of 'America' is...

My honest hopes would say - 'By God "YES," it's about friggin' time!!!"

My honest thoughts aren't quite so optimistic...

[nancyharris]

19. I think it is safe to say

that the next President of the United States will either be a woman, an African American or a Vietnam veteran (any of the 3 would be a first).

[toadzilla]

21. I dont think theyre ready,

but the repuke field is so freaking pathetic, I don't think they have a choice.

[BlackVelvet04]

22. Women think we're ready for a woman....

you betcha. I have no reason to believe America wouldn't vote for the right Black candidate.

[EffieBlack]

23. Was South Africa ready for a black president in 1994?

Of course not - at least until they elected Nelson Mandela that year.

Country's are never ready for change until the change happens.

[southernleftylady]

27. Good point thank you! :) nt

[cally]

25. I think we are

Many whites want to show that they aren't racist and it's easier to vote for a black man than have a black grandchildren. I'm not sure about whether we will vote for a woman but I do believe that Hilary has the best chance in history.

[Jed Dilligan]

28. America is...

The question should read, are the majority of voters ready?

[Blue-Jay]

29. Racist, sexist, and ridiculous.

Congrats! You just hit the Stupid Trifecta!

[southernleftylady]

35. why? first off I am a woman??? and why am I those things just asking if we can win??

that is just an ignorant comment all over

[Blue-Jay]

41. Having a vagina does not exempt you from any of those things.

Congrats on your genitalia, though!

[readmoreoften]

34. I think we're ready for whatever crap they sell us: white, black, female, lizard in human skin.

They tell us who to vote for and we comply. There is no "chance". Contrary to popular belief, Republicans are no more racist--personally--than Democrats.

[billbuckhead]

38. Being a white Democrat usually means that one is publicly pro black

[readmoreoften]

40. Now I didn't say anything about the gay part.

Republicans are not anti-black. Heck they appointed the first African American female Sec of State. White theocrats come together with Black theocrats all the time. But they are definitely anti-Mexican (but pro-Cuban) and anti-LGBT.

[GoddessOfGuinness]

37. There's no such thing as ready.

America wasn't ready for its own Revolution. It wasn't ready to abolish slavery. It wasn't ready for women to have reproductive freedom. It wasn't ready for gay marriage.

Nevertheless, we managed to deal with it, though we still have a lot to work out.

[EffieBlack]

46. THANK you!

[JohnnyLib2]

39. Yes, with a lot of hard work.

:thumbsup:

[doc03]

43. No! n/t

[goodgd_yall]

44. I do think we have a chance

But the gender and race of either of our candidates will be an issue with many. Hopefully, they won't like McCain either and stay home or write-in someone.