Dumb question: Ahnold can't be a VP right?

[Eurobabe]

But I think he is drooling at the possibilities.

[electron_blue]

1. No

[Azathoth]

2. Nope, you have to be qualified to be President to be VP

At least that was the way I always understood it.

[Spider Jerusalem]

3. He's ineligible for the Presidency by virtue of foreign birth.

So, no.

He could get a Cabinet position, though; nothing disqualifying him there.

[Yossariant]

4. No. VP has to be eligible to be Prez. Arnold is not eligible.

[rox63]

5. I don't believe so

Anyone who becomes VP has to also be eligible to become President, if something happens to the President. Being a naturalized citizen (he emigrated from Austria and became a citizen as an adult), he is not qualified to become President.

[Crazy Dave]

6. Cabinet member but not a VP

[bidenista]

9. the department of time-travelling termination

[tammywammy]

7. No he cannont

A Vice President must be able to fulfill the Presidency and Arnold, being foreign born, isn't eligible to be President. Just like Bill Clinton cannot be Vice President ever, because he's not eligible to be President.

[Johonny]

8. nah

He's a tool plan and simple. He backed Bush twice even though Bush turned around and did nothing for him in return. In fact Bush has been trying to block his environmental measures. He's like most modern Republicans:no matter how crappy they get treated they never ever stand up against party leaders.

[Retrograde]

10. not unless Austria decides to join the US before the election

then he'd be in the same position as Goldwater (born in a territory that later became a state). Somehow I think that's unlikely.

[Eurobabe]

13. I'm sure Österreich is dying to be the 51st state. LOL.

[Cleita]

11. Considering how the neo-cons have been working around the

Constitution I wouldn't put it past them to do something like a signing statement to get him on the ballot as VP.

[MonkeyFunk]

14. no signing statement could do such a thing

people here go nuts over signing statements - they're bad, but they're not THAT Bad.

They direct executive departments how to enforce laws. They don't override the constitution.

[Cleita]

16. I hope not nor any other quasi-legal BS they might try to pull.

But they did manage to pull off a war without Congress declaring it as stated in the Constitution, so I wouldn't be surprised to find Arnold appointed VP running mate after the Republican convention. Just watch the masters at work. Hitler would have been so proud of his disciples because you see the Nazis were able to overthrow the Wiemar Republic, a very liberal progressive one if you read their Constitution, without actually overthrowing it. They just whittled away at the Constitution incrementally with various quasi-legal tactics. The BushCo administration has done the same thing identically. Why not shove their favorite son of a Nazi into the second most powerful office in the country? After all it's just a matter of getting their Attorney General and Supreme Court to do some shuffling to make it look legal.

[MonkeyFunk]

17. If you wouldn't be surprised

then you're paranoid.

It's patently, clearly, unconstitutional, and there's no way around it.

[Cleita]

20. So what do you think about them legalizing torture, eliminating

habeas corpus and many other human rights violations that they have managed to make status quo? Am I being paranoid or, am I looking at what is fact?

[MonkeyFunk]

22. Because you're oversimplifying

they didn't "eliminate" habeas corpus. No one's going to arrest you and drag you to a secret jail where you'll never be heard from again.

Yes, they're very wrong in the instances they HAVE done this, but it wasn't a blanket repeal. It had to do with detainees, or unlawful combatants - who are not US citizens. Now I hate all their wrangling and weaseling as much as you do, but the legal arguments are a little more nuanced and complex than just a blanket repeal of a right.

[Cleita]

27. Your opinion which you are entitled to.

They still are trashing the Constitution and that's exactly what the Nazis did.

[MonkeyFunk]

30. Do you know tiresome

for everyone here to compare everything to the Nazi era? It's dumb, it's historically ignorant, it makes DU look like a bunch of freakin' lunatics.

What can't you do today that you could do 7 years ago? I mean what is the government prohibiting you from doing today? You can still stand in front of the White House with a sign. You can still flip Bush the bird as his motorcade drives by. You can join a protest, you can hang a "Fuck Bush" sign in your window. You still have the right to an attorney, the right against self-incrimination. Soldiers still can't be quartered in your house.

Yes Bush sucks - and his excesses ARE awful. But nothing in your day-to-day life is different, is it?

[Cleita]

31. Why do you defend the Nazi elements in our government by

saying it just isn't so? I really wonder about posters who claim DUers are making DU look like a bunch of freaking idiots. I'm sure that's what we look like to freepers and who cares about them? Run along. I'm tired of playing with you.

[MonkeyFunk]

32. You didn't answer my question!

What's different in your life?

It just cracks me up that people post on a public message board that we're living in Nazi times - do you think if we WERE that you could post this stuff here?

[Cleita]

33. My life is personal, but as a retiree, I have less and less

money to survive and less and less access to the things that I need. This is a direct result of neo-con economics and policies. I find I can't travel as I would like because of the travesty of homeland security in the airports. My luggage was ruined by airport security with them tearing into it. Yet, we all know this is a sham because we are no safer than before 9-11 because of lax security in other areas. I'm not an Arab but I would be keeping a really low profile if I were.

Young people from my community are dying in Iraq to keep an international oil cartel in power. There are many sad families who have been directly impacted by this. The homeless begging for sustenance everytime I go shopping have increased with younger faces among them, no doubt war vets. There have been incidents in our immigrant communities of people being arrested and disappearing. We are building a wall at our border like the Berlin Wall or the Iron curtain. I can't get a credit card company to close my account because they don't have to, yet I run the risk of my identity being stolen because they won't shut my account and delete my records and my identity was stolen on this dormant account that I still can't close and have no legal recourse to because of the corporate fascism taking over our country. There's more but I have a life so I must say tata.

[MonkeyFunk]

35. none of which

have to do with the elimination of your civil liberties.

[Cleita]

36. I don't know what you define as civil liberties but any one

person who is denied civil liberties means we can be denied them down the line. It just works that way. You seem to be proposing a tiered system of freedoms. What applies to them doesn't necessarily apply to you because you got yours and the hell with everyone else. Is that what you mean? I just heard that recruitment is down in the army. Will this bring back the draft? Talk to me about your civil liberties then.

[Bluestar]

12. No, he can't be VP but the rumor in California is that

he wants to try and snatch Barbara Boxer's Senate seat from her in 2010. You know, the old celebrity crap that California has fallen for before. The Repukes can't think of any other way to get the Senate seat because Boxer is so well liked and supported here in California. She must be concerned, however, because she has started her fundraising much earlier than normal.

I'm sure Arnold is trying to hedge his bets. He must think that McCain has the best chance of being the Republican nominee, so he has elected to back McCain. He thinks that having the president in his pocket will help his bid for the Senate.

[Eurobabe]

15. And don't forget Whorrin Hatch trying to amend the

Constitution to allow foreign-born citizens to be Preznit. (Article 2: Sec. 1)

Future CA senator? Edit: I can't believe this dude is still waering a meat-hanger! Ick.

[Cleita]

18. If you find a recent picture of his face, he really is starting to

look like Jabba the Hut.

[Eurobabe]

19. LOL, you are right!!

But I am too scared to try to find a recent close-up. :scared: The body shot was frightening enough.

[Cleita]

21. He did a commercial promoting votes on some of our

propositions on the ballot and his face was in close-up. It was really scary and with that harsh eastern European accent all I could think of was Jabba the Hut.
Where is SwampRat these days. We need a photoshop.

[Eurobabe]

23. uh

that would just be a strong Austrian accent. They have a real twang over there. But I don't really understand, my hubby is from Germany and he speaks flawless, practically accent-free English. Why hasn't Ahnold lost his? :shrug:

[Cleita]

24. Tuthfully Arnold isn't that bright. n/t

[Eurobabe]

26. ah-hah

that must be the difference. :)

[JackRiddler]

25. YEAH!

I'm in better shape than Arnold Schwarzenegger!

Life is good!

[AlCzervik]

28. no he can't and imo he cannot will boxer's senate seat either.

[JackRiddler]

29. I know it's not really funny...

but I listen to KPFA on the Web, and every time on the news they say, Governor Schwarzennegger, I do a double take and crack up. It gets me every time.

[WCGreen]

34. Dat request wuld be terminated....

[CaliforniaPeggy]

38. It would indeed, lol!

:rofl:

[ElsewheresDaughter]

37. nope