MotherJones.com: REALLY Bad News Day for Hillary Clinton

[Yael]

Ouch.

(That is their headline, not mine, so don't jump me over it)

Full details at the link.

1. ABC: Hillary's WalMart connection (donations, board actions)
2. WaPo: Barack is the frontrunner
3. WSJ: Jim McDougal vs Tony Rezko
4. NYT: Clinton / Kazakhstani / Giustra Uranium deal (and subsequent $31.3mm donation)
6. Obama January fundraising

http://www.motherjones.com/mojoblog/archives/2008/01/7047_really_bad_news.html

[truebrit71]

1. Ouch indeed...!!!

:thumbsup:

[KennedyGuy]

2. nice try

1. ABC: Hillary's WalMart connection (donations, board actions)
refuted..on this very page..

2. WaPo: Barack is the frontrunner
since when? SC?

3. WSJ: Jim McDougal vs Tony Rezko
McDougal-dead
Rezco-about to go on trial

4. NYT: Clinton / Kazakhstani / Giustra Uranium deal (and subsequent $31.3mm donation)
Bill..not Hillary..(Michelle and wal-mart)

6. Obama January fundraising
Haven't seen Hills yet..

[Yael]

3. $31.3mm in backroom donations vs selling pickles?

:rofl:

[Bread and Circus]

12. I gave $50 if that means anything :)

[VolcanoJen]

39. I gave $50, too.

:toast:

[GoldieAZ49]

31. and $100 million on the way

uranium vs pickles

Huh

[Radical Activist]

4. refuted

So Hillary didn't serve on the board of Walmart? heh

[cali]

5. Sorry, even if you believe it's been refuted, that's not the point

Perception is important. She's in a bad spot. They both really need a good debate.

[UALRBSofL]

14. Perception is everything

And I can only imagine the RNC has there detectives snooping around Chicago as we speak. Thing is, most of the skeletons are out of the Clinton closet long time ago but Obama's is just beginning.

[cali]

17. If you don't think there aren't new skeletons ready to tumble out

of the closet, you didn't see the front page of the NYT that's referenced in the OP.

[AntiFascist]

30. The deepest Skeletons may be out of the closet if you look hard enough...

but the Republicans have also done their share of work in covering them up.

[anamandujano]

18. Yeah, because everyone in the USA reads Mother Jones!

That perception thing is going to do her in.

[cali]

23. yeah, that's the only outlet covering those stories. Oops, it's NOT

The front page of the NYT is an influential place to run a story.

[GoldieAZ49]

33. I hope Obama brings up each one of these tonight

or that the moderators do

That will Barrrrrrrrack!

[City Lights]

6. You know it's a bad day when the piece ends with this:

"It may actually be a good thing for Hillary Clinton that all of this muck came out on the same day. There's only so much oxygen for news stories to breathe. At least one of these is going to wither and die without much attention."

[rodeodance]

8. chuckle

[rodeodance]

7. Union President Defends Clinton From Attack Over Wal-Mart Ties***

Forum Name Latest Breaking News
Topic subject Union President Defends Clinton From Attack Over Wal-Mart Ties
Topic URL http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3164312#3164312
3164312, Union President Defends Clinton From Attack Over Wal-Mart Ties
Posted by rodeodance on Thu Jan-31-08 03:43 PM

Source: new york observer



Union President Defends Clinton From Attack Over Wal-Mart Ties
by Azi Paybarah | January 31, 2008


Although Hillary Clinton severed her ties with Wal-Mart years ago (she sat on the board when Bill Clinton was Governor of Arkansas, but now refuses to accept contributions from the company), Barack Obama raised the issue of Clinton's past relationship with retail giant during the debate in South Carolina.

Now, hours before another Democratic debate, Clinton supporter Stuart Appelbaum, who is also President of the Retail, Wholesale and Department Store Union, has sent out a public statement defending her record:

...

“We know from experience that Hillary shares our belief that Wal-Mart and other
retailers have a moral responsibility to respect every worker's right to
organize. She has stood with us and has been and continues to be supportive of
our efforts to call attention to Wal-Mart's business practices that hurt
working families. And she has lent her voice to calls for the giant retailer to
change its ways.

“Over the last seven years American workers and their families have been
brutalized by corporate greed and unprecedented government indifference. Based
on our experience we are convinced that, as president, Hillary would work from
day one to restore workers rights and the institution of collective bargaining.

“Some politicians only stand up for labor at election time, but we know from
experience that Hillary will be there for workers and their unions long after
the ballots are counted.”




Read more: http://www.observer.com/2008/union-defends-clinton-wal-mart-attack

[KennedyGuy]

10. Facts won't fit into their teeny-tiny heads...

[ErnestoG]

13. How's the name calling working out for you...winning many converts with it?

is this where I insert something about your "tiny head"?

[KennedyGuy]

22. Insert what you want..you seem to think I was talking to you...

[ErnestoG]

32. You must be - you're responding to my posts aren't you?

I mean unless there is an imposter in here posing as me.

[rodeodance]

36. but do read the post now that you are done squabbling.

[workinclasszero]

9. Yup

Thats gonna leave a mark!

[Occam Bandage]

11. I agree with MJ's take; it's actually good for her for this all to come out at once. Some will die.

[Whisp]

24. all?

I doubt that very much. after those decades and decades of all that experience, I'm sure this is not all.

and the Pugs haven't approached the starting line yet.

:rofl:

[Occam Bandage]

25. No, but it would have clearly been worse for these to be spread out over two weeks.

[Whisp]

28. what 'I' would call the worst

is if there is any real chomp down meat to these stories.


not whether it may damage her race or the party. if guilty, justice should prevail

hahah. I know, that's funny these days.


.......

[sidwill]

15. Why does Mother Jones hate America?

It's obvious that Mother JOnes is now part of the MSM/corporate/industrial/military complex and simply seeks to undermine Hillary at any cost.

For shame.

[Bitwit1234]

16. AND THE SLIME CONTINUES....

SHE'LL STILL BE THE WINNER AND NEXT PRESIDENT.

[Jane Austin]

19. Mother Jones prints "SLIME" ?

Since when?

[ErnestoG]

21. When did Mother Jones now become the target of the your ire?

Just like Ted Kennedy - doesn't matter how committed to liberal principles a Senator or a publication is - when it speaks ill of Hillary then it BECOMES THE ENEMY!

Seriously, that is the most disgusting cult behavior I've ever seen.

[Meshuga]

29. And then they have the guts to say that Obama supporters see him as the messiah

Go figure. :-)

[ErnestoG]

34. What Obama supporters see him as a "Messiah"?

and I want to see specific names with supporting and sourcable quotes to that effect....or I'll know you are just blowing more Hillary-colored smoke.

[Meshuga]

35. I'm not blowing smoke

I agree with you and added more. I said, "And then they have the guts to say that Obama supporters see him as the messiah". ;-)

[rodeodance]

38. PUFF

[Occam Bandage]

26. Mother Jones commenting on negative stories is now "slime?"

[Big Blue Marble]

27. Your tone sounds a tiny bit defensive.

You do not need to yell about it.

Mother Jones may not be to your liking. But it is a good left wing media source.

[tandem5]

20. Thank god - now she can be the underdog! nt

[rodeodance]

37. thank you. I had not though of that.

[jgraz]

40. Here's hoping next Tuesday will be another REALLY Bad News Day for Hillary

:toast: