Here's what would have saved Edwards and allowed him to slam dunk this nomination

[inthebrain]

"I fucked up in my time as a Senator. When I was a lawyer I fought big corporations that picked on the little guy and won justice.

In my time in the senate I ran astray and I sincerely apologize for that. I voted for the Iraq War, Patriot Act, Free Trade agreements (that came at a big price to workers here and abroad), and Bankruuptcy legislation sponsored by Bank Of America.

I WAS Hillary Clinton.

I WAS Barak Obama.

I WAS Joe Biden.

And I guess you could say I was Joe Lieberman.

I don't want to be those guys anymore. It burns me to my soul what I did and the only way I can nullify those wrongs is in the Oval office. I will never again allow Wall Street to bilk you as I once did and as Obama, Clinton and Biden do now. In these last four years I find it hard to live with myself day after day knowing what I did to the American people.

I now understand that it is the little guy that make this country go round. I would like to make it up to you."


That would have taken care of Biden, Obama, and Clinton within the first three primaries.

[Dawgs]

1. Uh, not so much.

And, it's Barack - not Barak.

[inthebrain]

2. Thanks Mrs Crabtree

lol

[rjones2818]

3. If he actually felt that way,

he would have endorsed Dennis and put everything he had behind getting him nominated.

Go Dennis! :woohoo:
http://kucinich.us
http://integritynow.org

[inthebrain]

5. I don't think he does

That was always mt problem with him.

If he really wanted to change Washington he could have started by admitting he was wrong on a whole host of issues. Nobody in this race has admitted it. That's been the problem with the last eight years as well.

[saracat]

6. Dennis will Never ever be viable. This is a very silly comment.

Support Dennis's policies which are wonderful but Dennis isn't a good candidate.It is his unfortunate personality, dogmatic speaking style and appearance.I am sorry to say , it counts.This is just silly.

[inthebrain]

8. The popularity contest is what's ruined these primaries

These people are responsible for making decisions that effect everybodies lives. May as well just vote for Britney Spears. She has a great ass and nice smile but there isn't whole lot going on upstairs.

It's great that people are selecting the prom king and the prom queen. As is true these people always turn out to be the biggest losers of all as they are incapable of making sound decisions.

[saracat]

13. Unfortunately Dennis strikes many people as a little creepy. It is a fact.

He has "some' great positions but much are things that can't be done and maybe shouldn't be. He can't get his party to pass anything.he isn't much of a leader.And he really wouldn't be a great 'face' for the US, but then neither are a lot of people.But , what do I know? I liked Edwards and Biden, so there.Pay no attention .

[inthebrain]

17. I'm not denying that it's about looks

You're basicly validating my argument.

And again, the prom King and Prom Queen method of voting gets us assholes in office every single time.

Our folks in a Democracy, especially those that really treasure what that means, don't go out and vote for "leadership". That's how we wound up with idiots like Reagan, BushI, BushII and Clinton. It's about ensuring checks and balances and that power remain in the hands of the people.

It's not about electing a strong paternalistic leader.

Edwards and Biden are two of the most inneffective people when it comes to succumbing to the will of the people. Unless you think they really like the 2000 and 2005 Bankruptcy bills.

[saracat]

23. No but they have balanced it out with other things.What has Dennis "accomplished" He proposes stuff

like "impeachment' and Dept of Peace but he doesn't get anything done. I read somewhere that nothing he sponsored has ever past.I don't know if that is true. He dropped out because the people of his district aren't getting representation, that is what many in Ohio say, and he has a primary challenger for his seat.He has become a perpetual Presidential candidate but is neglecting his duties as congressperson.He could try building alliances and getting something done. I din't think this ios just about "looks'.But you can't deny that part of the job is ceremonial and we like to have a certain look.This however is more about "leadership"

[inthebrain]

29. HR 667

[JuniperLea]

27. Some of the most intelligent people in the world...

Come off as "a little creepy". :)

[rjones2818]

11. Actually...

JE and his supporters thought that he was entitled to the presidential nomination after being VP nominee last time, IMHO. I don't trust him and am glad he's out of the race.

[never_get_over_it]

4. Well I pretty much got that message from him

BUT I went looking for it unlike - 99.9999% of the electorate that have their political info spoon fed to them by the M$M - the M$M was not spooning any John Edwards and that is why he did not get the votes he needed.

Lets face it once Obama won IA - and by the way total Dem voters there less 250K and I think Obama only bettered Edwards by like 20K - and then the M$M was off an running - making this a two person race - makes me wonder what would have happened if Edwards had won... The IA thing led to huge interest in NH only a few days later - and with all the Clinton sexist bashing - John Edwards got lost in the shuffle AGAIN - it is ridiculous - our primary system SUCKS, our M$M SUCKS and most of the VOTERS are stupid followers who want to back the perceived winner in a ridiculous popularity contest....

So basically we lost John Edwards as a viable candidate over about 20K votes and the idiot M$M and the idiot Americans who continue to put up with this crap... SAD really...really SAD

[saracat]

7. That is pretty much some of what he said but he never bilked anyone

out of anything!

[inthebrain]

9. No he didn't

On the Iraq war he did.

On his other votes he wanted to keep a tight lid on it. Kucinich really threw him off his game when he mentioned Edwards "China Trade" vote. Edwards never copped to the fact that he too was a part of the Wal Street crowd and constantly flaunted his record as a lawyer and son of a Mill Worker (who just happened to me MANAGEMENT).

[SammyWinstonJack]

10. Why do you care? Don't you think he was a phony and insincere?

:eyes:

[inthebrain]

12. That's primarily why he bombed

Folks that really looked at his record were left aghast when listening to his speeches.

Don't you think people know when a politician is trying to bullshit them?

A lot of people choose to vote for the candidate that will step them in the front rather than in the back. Edwards said a lot of things that I agreed with but that air was still about him.

I might have tossed him a primary vote but wasn't realling enthusiatic about committing to him.

[SammyWinstonJack]

14. Give it a rest will ya? He didn't bullshit anyone.

[inthebrain]

22. You'll wake up tomorrow

and decide to look at his voting record in the senate.

It's very sobering.

[Lucinda]

15. The media killed Edwards. And part of his message.

It's next to impossible to criticize "the system" and live to tell the tale, when it's part of the system that airs the messages.

[inthebrain]

20. Edwards in the end was hung by his own rope

Killed by the establishment that allows Wall Street to run amock on the little guy.

As a senator he heavily endorsed it.

In the end it bit him in the ass.

[sandnsea]

16. Except Obama didn't support that crap

and voted to fix all the crap Edwards had screwed up.

[inthebrain]

18. You mean like the Free Trade agreements.

Yeah right!!!!

[sandnsea]

25. China trade?

Yeah right exactly.

[BlueStater]

19. Which is why he still continues to fund the Iraq war, right? n/t

[sandnsea]

24. That Edwards voted to start

And since Edwards never proposed pulling all troops all the way home, how would he have kept troops in Iraq without funding?

[BlueStater]

26. Real easy for Obama to be brave when he wasn't a senator at the time

The fact that he missed an important vote like the Kyl-Lieberman admendment doesn't inspire me with much confidence.

[sandnsea]

28. Funny you didn't answer the point

How was Edwards going to keep troops in Iraq without funding?

The whole case against Obama is what has been the fairy tale in this election.

[Blue-Jay]

21. This post DELIVERED!

When I saw the title, I laughed and said "This ought to be good!" I was not disappointed.

[H2O Man]

30. People want sober candidates. n/t