Get off it.

[Nimble_Idea]

People who are still attacking John Kerry because they themselves are so Pure ,I just have one suggestion.

Can we agree NOT to attack Him until AFTER Kerry's win in Nov. I'm sure the fanatics won't listen, but I'm talking about the ones who are passionate about issues but REASONABLE.

You may have your differences about Kerry, but GIVE Kerry Campaign money and your support, and get everyone you know to VOTE for Kerry!

SHRUB MUST GO.

After Kerry gets in Office, then you can SLASH and Burn him.

I don't agree 100% with Kerry, I don't intend on attacking him on some issues until after Nov. 2nd.

Thanks for being Civil and Smart.

[XanaDUer]

1. They may attack

But I am not sure it will make much difference overall.

:shrug:

[Melodybe]

2. HERE, HERE, Thanks for talking sense.

[OhioStateProgressive]

3. moderation and mediocrity are very nearly similar words

And Kerry is Moderate

and therefore mediocre

[Nimble_Idea]

6. Stupid is as Stupid Does

Don't vote for kerry and it helps Bush win, PLAIN AND SIMPLE

anyone who thinks it is a mediocre matter that SHRUB gets 4 more years

is well...in need of MED-icine.

Thanks for being Civil and Supporting John Kerry.

[OhioStateProgressive]

America is a train wreck with George Bush or John Kerry(nt)

[northzax]

16. all to speed the revolution faster right?

after all, the proletariat won't rise up until the capitalists have taken everything away from them.

[Nimble_Idea]

22. I suppose those issues you are talking about

will get the light of Day with Shrub in Office??

So you want CHAOS and ill will upon others ?? Revolutions such as the one --"Rising up" suggests violence and people will get hurt.

Im sorry , I can't support that, So I will do the best thing I can
That is, Vote for Kerry and change that direction.

Thanks for avoiding such a Dangerous Fate, and Supporting

John Kerry

[OhioStateProgressive]

25. I'll take the 'phoenix rising' option for $200 alex....

"Nothing grows without rain"

[Evil_Dewers]

9. And Kerry is Moderate

I wanted to waste my vote for Kucinich, until I found out he favored legalizing Marijuana yet opposed the Roe v. Wade decision legalizing abortion on religious grounds.

I guess DK is a good (conservative) Catholic and Kerry is a bad (liberal) one since DK opposes "pro choice" and Kerry favors it.

[OhioStateProgressive]

well

Since you're incorrect I won't bother to reply.




Glad I didn't.


Edited to satisfy anal retention in regards to spelling.

[Evil_Dewers]

19. Since your incorrect

Oh, did DK waffle (become an "abortionist") after 20 years in public life opposing abortion?

[OhioStateProgressive]

23. No.

He is still personally against abortion. He also finally saw the assault on choice for what it was. He doesn't want it made illegal, and doesn't want it outlawed. He wants a society that doesn't need abortions, and it goes right in line with every other thing he believes in. I believe Dennis saw it wrong and admitted it. He still has a personal conviction against abortion. So fucking what.

[ieoeja]

32. You're both incorrect in each of your posts.

It is "you're incorrect", not "your incorrect".

English: it's not just for the British anymore.

[Evil_Dewers]

33. Hey, I just copied and pasted "your" from the DK'er post

On another forum once, someone directed this post at me:

"Your (sic) a moran (sic)."

[charlie]

18. Pro-choice

The man is pro-choice. In fact, he supports RvW as a litmus test for prospective Supreme Court justices.

[Evil_Dewers]

20. The man is pro-choice.

For how long? 13 months? Since he decided to run for president?

[charlie]

24. Eh?

You said he wasn't, so I corrected it.

[Evil_Dewers]

29. So you say he's pro choice this week...

what about next week?

[charlie]

30. Real cute

Spoiling for a chance to insult and run like you've been doing all day? Since I've said squat about Kerry, you have no real beef, just an attitude.

[Evil_Dewers]

36. I've got a new attitude as well.

There'll be no more putting up with the bullshit lies about Kerry coming from supporters of other candidates.

Kerry is not a moderate.

[OhioStateProgressive]

37. Yes he is.

I wouldn't have said it if it weren't true.

[Evil_Dewers]

39. Love DK--hate his (athletic) supporters.

You ad hominem statement doesn't pass muster.

[OhioStateProgressive]

43. That dog hunts fine thank you(nt)

[charlie]

38. Nor is he a rutabaga

Nor did I say he was a rutabaga... or a moderate. Like I said, you're all attitude and adolescent swagger, no real intent other than provocation.

[Evil_Dewers]

40. charlie

I hope DK stays in the race until the convention.

I hope he picks up some delegates. 18 does not compare well to 1500.

I love DK, yet dislike some of his supporters here.

I like redqueen.

Wanna know who I dislike?

[Trinity]

26. I belive Kucinich has changed his stance on Roe Vs. Wade...

He belives that Roe Vs. Wade should remain , but personally he is against abortion.... seems reasonable to me........ I'll be wasting my vote on Kucinich on tuesday and voting for Kerry in November.......


Btw: Chomsky of all people even said "if it means holding your nose and voting for the democrat then do it" somewhat paraphrased .. Shrub won't even give us liberals the time of day, at least Kerry will listen, like Clinton did......



Peace? :hippie: :smoke: :freak:

[northzax]

11. buckeye and bullshit are pretty close as well

you may just be onto something.

[saltpoint]

13. No they ain't, neither.

[Wonk]

4. A new use for duct tape! Goody!

Just for you I'll tape up my eyes, ears, mouth, and keyboard now.

Not.

[Snivi Yllom]

7. wooohooooo

another day

another thread telling people what to do and how to think


ummmmm

no

[Nimble_Idea]

17. Im not telling you how to think

Im SUGGESTING that you follow a REASONABLE path. You can do what the heck you want. But I would take the Smarter path.

Thanks for being open-minded and Supporting John Kerry

[jansu]

31. Many Kerry supporters tell the rest of us to just go away and shut up,

because we won and all of you backed the losers. But remember to come back in November and vote for Kerry, then go away because we won and we don't have to listen to you! We will tell you what to think and say!

Sorry folks, I am an American and I will say what I want, wherever I want!

I will vote ABB, in spite of all of you. But, after November, I and many others may decide that this Democratic Party is too conservative and moving too far to the right. We may have to form a party which believes in Human Rights and the Rights of the Individual, not Corporations and the Rich and Powerful! Watch us! We believe that We, the people, Have The Power and it will grow more powerful year after year.

I will never forget the take down of Dean, the put downs of Kucinich, the focus on Clark's not being or acting like a politicians. The constant focus on all the "Not the Perfect sounding, looking, acting" Candidate. Some of us were more interested in function over form, on the message not the messenger. In the future, maybe some of you will be able to see the facts of this. But, not now!

I will never post what I think of Kerry, because I do not wish to give the repubs any ammo. But, don't expect me to be glad about the choices some Americans have made.

[BL_Zebub]

5. I make no claims of purity - I'm the Devil, so that would be ridiculous!

I merely expect a Demoncratic nominee to act like a Demoncrat, and not to vote in lock step with the enemy for 3 years.

[Nimble_Idea]

10. Well give the Democratic Leader the Nation's Stage

You won't get ANYTHING with 4 more years of SHRUB, YOU KNOW it, and KNOW that just CAN'T HAPPEN.

Thanks for being reasonable, and supporting John Kerry!

[Evil_Dewers]

15. I make no claims of purity - I'm the Devil

And the Devil speaks with a forked tongue, so we can't trust a thing you say.

[yardwork]

8. Letting off steam on a bulletin board among similar thinkers

is probably better than the alternative.

If they want to snap and snarl at John Kerry here on DU, I say let 'em rip. Better here than writing a letter to the editor. Or holding all that anger inside and letting it keep the person from voting in November.

[OhioStateProgressive]

35. letters to editor

Good idea.

Thanks for the tip.

[Evil_Dewers]

41. letters to editor--good tip

make sure you start your letter with "As a lifelong Democrat, but no more..."

The Pubbies love reading that shit--most of the time, they wrote it.

[OhioStateProgressive]

42. No

I have never been a registered Democrat

So why would I lie?

I will say I'm a believer in truth and correctness.

Which will logically lead into why Kerry is a poor candidate.

[displacedtexan]

12. Well said!

Clinton was my second choice in the 1992 primary (he was too conservative for me); however, while I didn't always agree with his policies as president (NAFTA, WTO, Welfare reform), I appreciated those eight years of job security and relative peace. Clinton paid a high price for this country's welfare. I feel he would be ashamed of us Dems if we don't rally behind our candidate (whoever it turns out to be).

[redqueen]

14. If someone is attacking him they should stop

Constructive criticism is one thing, but the free-for-all has to stop.

[northzax]

21. NEVER. it is better to be ideologically pure

than to make progress. We cannot move proigressivly, we must have a GREAT LEAP FORWARD.

grat leap forward, wait a minute, that'd be a great name for a government program...

[rbnyc]

27. While I'm put off...

...by people who are telling me to jump on the Kerry bandwagon now, I agree that attacking him is destructive. He will be the nominee. And while I think it's important to vote your conscience in the primaries, to send as many delegates who support your point of view to the convention as possible, and send a message to Democratic leadership that certain issues that may be under-represented by Kerry are important, I think the so-called purity test is self-defeating, and I think it's unwise to contribute ammunition against him as we need to defeat Bush above all.

So essentially, I agree with you, but I'm not changing my sig-line graphic until the convention.

[info being]

28. Good idea...but your tone needs some work

OK. I kind of agree that we should back off the attack Kerry bandwagon until after the election. Well, that said, I also think that being honest with ourselves and those around us is the most effective political strategy...conservatives respect me when I call Kerry what he is and then bash Bush in the next breath.

But anyway, I'll agree to tone down the anti-Kerry stuff if you work on your tone:

"they themselves are so Pure"

- Since when is "pure" an insult. Are you projecting some sort of guilt...maybe you don't believe yourself to be so pure or whatever? All humans are pure if we search within ourselves long enough. Why would you try to insult someone by calling him pure? How does that help your cause?

"the fanatics won't listen"

Listen to who? Why should I listen to or obey you? Why do you think your opinion is so much more correct and that it must be "listened to?"

"the ones who are passionate about issues but REASONABLE."

Define reasonable.

[Nimble_Idea]

34. You gota get loud to get through

First:
I know I'm not Perfect and those who think they are , are full of it.
That's what Im getting at.

I don't want you to obey me, that's just funny when somone SUGGESTS something, you assume that Im commanding you to do something, Im ASKING you to be REASONABLE and SMART about the situation, you can do whatever you want.

REASONABLE???

Reasonable = SHRUB MUST GO, that's reasonable, if you like SHRUB so much, vote for him by not Voting for Kerry.

Thanks for being Civil and Supporting John Kerry

[rucky]

44. you say pure as if it's a bad thing

find a new meme

short-sighted, pigheaded, selfish, misguided I could live with - but please don't turn "pure" into an insult. show a little shame.