Obama would be the perfect candidate for a high school presidential race

[Clintonista2]

He's got the great personality. However, for a UNITED STATES presidential race, I'll take substance over style, which is why I support Hillary.

[AX10]

1. Same here.

[allalone]

2. except he's 46

[1corona4u]

29. Yes, but he's immature enough to pass...

[Tweed]

41. Can he take over for you?

:eyes:

[Clintonista2]

43. He gives in to peer pressure too:

[1corona4u]

57. LOL....

[thunder rising]

3. You seem to be an endangered species. Most people have caught on ... she's poison

[Kittycat]

4. Wow, what a way to start the late night.

So sad :(

[scheming daemons]

5. You were 100% right... until the 7th word of your title....

[laconicsax]

24. huh?

Obama (1) would (2) be (3) the (4) perfect (5) candidate (6) for (7) a (8) high (9) school (11) presidential (12) race (13)

Why is "for" the wrong word in the title? Do you prefer "in" instead?

[Clintonista2]

25. I was struggling to understand that too...

[ecdab]

53. just read the first 6 words of the title, LOL n/t

[Maven]

6. As I've said before, his slogans sound like they came from a student council election

[Bicoastal]

10. Well, what do you know?

You can't stop breaking character and laughing at Tim Conway.

[Maven]

13. Touche

:rofl:

[Prophet 451]

42. So do Hillary's

Come to that, so do McCain and Romney's.

*insert rant about dumbing down of political discourse here*

[Bicoastal]

7. Would you vote for Tracy Flick over Paul Metzler?

[Maven]

8. I believe Tracy Flick won that election

[Bicoastal]

15. Yeah, but she tore down Paul's posters and lied about it. nt

[Clintonista2]

16. She tore down her own posters too...

So it was even.

[Bicoastal]

18. Frankly, if I could have a big party where everyone in DU got together to watch "Election"

I would do it in a second.

[Clintonista2]

19. LOL

[Maven]

17. But she made everyone cupcakes!

[Clintonista2]

12. I loved that movie

[VolcanoJen]

31. John McCain's victory speech in New Hampshire reminded me....

... of Metzler's high school gymnasium speech. Only Metzler was better. }(

[Thrill]

9. YAWN....Obama went toe to toe with her on policy Thursday night

Still trying to beat the substance talking point. It doesn't work anymore

[andyrowe]

11. I see you haven't changed you sig...

"Doesn't say how many undecideds they had in their pool. I bet it was 3 or 2." - Hillhater explaining why a CNN poll showed Clinton won the undecided vote after a debate by 60% to Obama's 40%, proving once and for all that Obamatons cannot divide by 2

heh

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4329650&mesg_id=4329650

[JimGinPA]

Hillary is just such a phoney...

it amazes me how many seemingly intelligent people can't (or won't) recognize it.

[Thrill]

27. The intelligent and educated Democrats are voting for Obama

Thats not a coincidence. They see through Hillary's BS

[1corona4u]

30. Obama's a phony too....

and, as I have pointed out in another thread, a liar. Maybe he just forgets what he says, but still, his ever changing story on Rezko is becoming hard to follow, due to the conflicting statements coming from Obama's own mouth.

[book_worm]

14. well an awful lot of people are taking him seriously for President of the USA

[andyrowe]

20. Your self-pwning sig hasn't changed in almost 24 hours.

I can't help but gloat.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4329650&mesg_id=4329650

[Steely_Dan]

21. As for me...

I'm voting for Pedro.

-P

[IndianaGreen]

22. Hillary's "substance" includes the deaths of over half a million Iraqi children

"We Think the Price Is Worth It"
Media uncurious about Iraq policy's effects- there or here

By Rahul Mahajan

Lesley Stahl on U.S. sanctions against Iraq: We have heard that a half million children have died. I mean, that's more children than died in Hiroshima. And, you know, is the price worth it?

Secretary of State Madeleine Albright: I think this is a very hard choice, but the price--we think the price is worth it.

--60 Minutes (5/12/96)

Then-Secretary of State Madeleine Albright's quote, calmly asserting that U.S. policy objectives were worth the sacrifice of half a million Arab children, has been much quoted in the Arabic press. It's also been cited in the United States in alternative commentary on the September 11 attacks (e.g., Alexander Cockburn, New York Press, 9/26/01).

But a Dow Jones search of mainstream news sources since September 11 turns up only one reference to the quote--in an op-ed in the Orange Country Register (9/16/01). This omission is striking, given the major role that Iraq sanctions play in the ideology of archenemy Osama bin Laden; his recruitment video features pictures of Iraqi babies wasting away from malnutrition and lack of medicine (New York Daily News, 9/28/01). The inference that Albright and the terrorists may have shared a common rationale--a belief that the deaths of thousands of innocents are a price worth paying to achieve one's political ends--does not seem to be one that can be made in U.S. mass media.

It's worth noting that on 60 Minutes, Albright made no attempt to deny the figure given by Stahl--a rough rendering of the preliminary estimate in a 1995 U.N. Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO) report that 567,000 Iraqi children under the age of five had died as a result of the sanctions. In general, the response from government officials about the sanctions’ toll has been rather different: a barrage of equivocations, denigration of U.N. sources and implications that questioners have some ideological axe to grind (Extra!, 3-4/00).

http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1084

As the United Nations Food and Agriculture Organization reported a year earlier in 1995, as many as 576,000 Iraqi youth died as a result of United Nation sanctions that the US had imposed and supported since 1991. This conservative tally did not even include the over 90,000 annual hospital deaths that the World Health Organization estimated would have not happened had Clinton not compelled the UN to enforce harsh sanctions against the Iraqi people. Sadly, it seems the litmus test for U.S. presidential aspirants must include the will to brutalize Iraqis.

Then in 1998, Clinton retaliated for an East African U.S. Embassy bombing by firing 70 cruise missiles at a suspected bin Laden terrorist training camp in Afghanistan and heaving another 17 missiles at a pharmaceutical plant in the Sudan. The plant was destroyed, and most likely was responsible for thousands of deaths.

Later that year when Clinton signed into law the Iraq Liberation Act -- drafted by the same hawkish neocons that helped thrust forth Bush's own Iraq policy including Republican staffer Randy Scheunemann, Donald Rumsfeld, former-CIA director R. James Woosley, and Ahmad Chalabi into law later that year -- the US outlined its ultimate objective for its involvement in Iraq. That is, extinguishing the life of Saddam Hussein and his government.

It was as if D.C. already had the champagne on ice; regime change was so close, Congress could almost taste the after-party. The House of Representatives overwhelmingly supported the legislation, with the Senate voting unanimously in favor of the bill.

When Clinton signed it into law in mid-October 1996, Republican Senator Trent Lott sang his praises: "The Clinton administration regularly calls for bipartisanship in foreign policy. I support them when I can. Today, we see a clear example of a policy that has the broadest possible bi-partisan support. I know the Administration understands the depth of our feeling on this issue. I think they are beginning to understand the strategic argument in favor of moving beyond containment to a policy of 'rollback.' Containment is not sustainable. Pressure to lift sanctions on Iraq is increasing -- despite Iraq's seven years of refusal to comply with the terms of the Gulf War cease-fire. Our interests in the Middle East cannot be protected with Saddam Hussein in power. Our legislation provides a roadmap to achieve our objective.

http://www.ccmep.org/2004_articles/iraq/092604_bombs_ahoyiraq.htm

[ErnestoG]

51. Notice her and her supporters still running from that topic at full speed...

[andyrowe]

23. Starting pool on when you'll change your signature.

Paying 100 to 1 on "As soon as he realizes what I'm talking about."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4329650&mesg_id=4329650

[EmperorHasNoClothes]

26. I'll take an honest high school president with good judgement

over "I'll do anything to get elected" Hillary Clinton any day.

[andyrowe]

28. Amen

Gobama!

[FlyingSquirrel]

32. Man. I think if it's at all possible, you've gotten WORSE since

Edwards dropped out.

[andyrowe]

33. Tell me about it.

I'm the one misquoted in his sig.

Read the HILarity...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4329650&mesg_id=4329650

[alittlelark]

34. I just went to my daughters HS introduction yesterday.

The Student Body President ROCKED. The kids I talked to to were WAAAAY with it. The selected students for our kids to talk to were all over it.


My husband was student body President in '81, I'd rather have him than anyone on the R.

[troubleinwinter]

35. I gotta say, a great many Hillary and Obama supporters sound like Junior High students.

It's tiresome, asinine and juvenile. It sure isn't winning anybody over.

[andyrowe]

36. I think I'm guilty here.

I've been exchanging negativity with someone and at the end of the day everyone I've subjected it to here on DU deserves my apology. I'm sorry. I can't believe I let them get under my skin.

[Clintonista2]

38. Apology accepted

[troubleinwinter]

44. A perfect example of useless, asinine, juvenile and pointless.

Think this sort of thing helps and Edwards supporter want to join your club-house of ten-year olds? Do you honestly think it does your candidate any good? Maybe you don't care.

[Clintonista2]

45. No, I really truly don't care

Because I'm not delusional enough to believe that anything I say on DU will have any effect on the outcome.

[troubleinwinter]

46. Then why bother? Why expend the time and energy? For the sheer joy of being a disruptor?

[Clintonista2]

47. Why not bother?

Because I want to show my support for my candidate?

[troubleinwinter]

48. That isn't support, and I'm sure you know it. But as you say, you simply don't care.

Three and a half years on DU, and for only the second time, I'm reaching for the little red X icon. I won't be witnessing your version of "support" for a candidate any longer.

[troubleinwinter]

40. I think most of us understand a degree of ire and argumentativeness being provoked within a thread.

What is truly repellent is OP thread-starters that are simply pointless, useless and nasty. There have been a thousand posts identical to this OP that say the same uninteresting shit (Obama supporters too), except OP seems to think it needed yet another unpleasant thread because he thinks he's smart and unique to have added "high school president" to the childish snarks.

It should be realized that Biden/Dodd/Kucinich/Edwards supporters are looking around to see what they might find. What we are seeing isn't particularly appealing.

[Hoof Hearted]

37. What a shitty immature post this is - hope you're proud. (from a Hillary supporter)

I hope you like the pizza. I see one in your future.

[Clintonista2]

39. Yawn. The haters have been predicting my demise for months

Not gonna happen.

[caligirl]

49. Hillary as TRACY Flick VIDEO a high school election

http://www.publicknowledge.org/node/1357

[ErnestoG]

50. Even High Schoolers know about owning their votes. Hillary doesn't.

Case of arrested development?

[VotesForWomen]

52. correct. O is not ready for prime time, but he's getting a pass from the media, just like W did. nt

[michaz]

54. Simply put....this is crap!

[cali]

55. more foolish shit from

hilly's acolytes. His substance is not in doubt by anyone with a brain. You may not like it, but it's patently dishonest to claim that he's without substance.

[jonnyra]

56. I prefer truth

over word parsing and catering to the corporate entities in power...which is why we needed Kucinich or Edwards.

[Vinca]

58. Hillary would make a good president of the local Garden Club. nt