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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 03:12 PM Original message |
Why can't race or gender be considered as positive qualifications for the presidency? |
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2rth2pwr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 03:13 PM Response to Original message |
1. Would you have voted for Alan Keyes or Liddy Dole? |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 03:19 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Of course not - because race or gender is not my ONLY consideration |
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BlueStateGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 03:23 PM Response to Original message |
3. Hillary and Barak have changed the face of American politics |
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MediaBabe (610 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 03:36 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. Three cheers! |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 03:25 PM Response to Original message |
4. "If I ... wish to consider how much it would mean to ... black men" |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 07:11 PM Response to Reply #4 |
35. Your point about passing the threshold is a critical one |
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NastyRiffraff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 03:26 PM Response to Original message |
5. Good, thoughtful post |
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MediaBabe (610 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 03:30 PM Response to Original message |
6. Why do you hate America? |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 03:43 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. At least we now know why Edwards did so poorly |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 03:38 PM Response to Original message |
8. Because it is racist and sexist to vote for someone based on race and sexism |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 03:51 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. You apparently don't know what "racism" and "sexism" are |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 03:58 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. I know what racism is very well from personal experience |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 04:18 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. it must have driven you crazy |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 04:20 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Being a Southerner deals with electability |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 04:32 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. So, it would be ok for Edwards to say |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 04:34 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. No. He never did. He never played the race card unlike Hillary and Obama |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 04:55 PM Response to Reply #19 |
26. LOL - you're running around in circles. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 12:08 AM Response to Reply #26 |
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MediaBabe (610 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 04:26 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. Southerner. |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 04:42 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. It's easy to forget . . . |
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MediaBabe (610 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 04:57 PM Response to Reply #21 |
28. Isn't that the truth! |
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ginchinchili (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 02:29 AM Response to Reply #28 |
46. What you should be saying is... |
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ginchinchili (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 12:09 AM Response to Reply #21 |
40. Then you would support Hillary? Because she's a woman. |
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MediaBabe (610 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 04:23 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. "I'm black and I'm proud!" |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 04:36 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. Only on DU would this question be asked |
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MediaBabe (610 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 04:43 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. "I am WOMAN and I"m proud" |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 04:48 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Yes it is playing that card |
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ginchinchili (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 12:18 AM Response to Reply #22 |
43. Saying that she's proud to be a woman is fine. |
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ginchinchili (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 12:11 AM Response to Reply #20 |
41. Pssst. They aren't looking for the truth. |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 03:48 PM Response to Original message |
10. I think a person's total experience... |
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Prefer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 04:19 PM Response to Original message |
14. YES, WE CAN! |
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stray cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 04:44 PM Response to Original message |
23. Is it then right for white and male to be worthy considerations? |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 05:16 PM Response to Reply #23 |
30. They always have been |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 04:51 PM Response to Original message |
25. Oh... I dunno... a certain guy with the initials MLK talked about being judged... |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 05:07 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. Notwithstanding your laughably out-of-context |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 05:20 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. Didn't say it was out-of-line.... |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 05:32 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. Don't you understand that a person's race or gender |
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ginchinchili (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 04:55 PM Response to Original message |
27. Because attitudes like yours perpetuates racism and sexism. |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 05:23 PM Response to Reply #27 |
33. right |
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ginchinchili (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 07:32 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. Views like mine? You mean, treating everyone as equals? |
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EffieBlack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 09:01 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. No - I mean PRETENDING to treat people as equals |
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ginchinchili (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 11:53 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. It's obvious by this quote that you have lost all objectivity: |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 05:18 PM Response to Original message |
31. HILLARY embodies womanness: OBAMA embodies blackness. it is part |
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LiberalHeart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 12:12 AM Response to Original message |
42. Race & gender as qualifications are as icky to me as religion used that way. |
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ginchinchili (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 12:19 AM Response to Reply #42 |
45. You are right. |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 12:19 AM Response to Original message |
44. They can for me. |
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