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LoveForPeace Donating Member (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 03:47 PM
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Is something wrong with Elizabeth Edwards?
Edited on Sat Feb-02-08 03:48 PM by LoveForPeace
She was not visible until the announcement, after New Hampshire, not doing media, or anything. Is that why Edwards dropped out? He told someone he called he was having a "really bad day".

That would be sad, and idiots like Randi Rhodes would have to apologize for their remarks on him. http://youtube.com/watch?v=YlN2QWmt6DY
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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 03:49 PM
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1. Oh, besides having cancer, nothing in particular.
Why do you ask? :shrug:
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LoveForPeace Donating Member (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 03:49 PM
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3. Did it get worse?
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 04:15 PM
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13. How would anyone here know?
Honestly, if people take 2 seconds to think before they pose a question...
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 03:53 PM
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5. Smart ass answers like yours are why people leave this place. I suppose
that it would have killed you to pass up the chance to be an ass.

See, it doesn't pay to care about anything here anymore. Because the one thing you can damn well bet on is that some wiseass is gonna post something thinking they're really being cute.
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LoveForPeace Donating Member (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 03:59 PM
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8. Thank you...
I'm well aware she has cancer. I'm wondering if she got news (and he got news) that it was much worse than they thought and that he needed to spend his last moments with her.
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 04:39 PM
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14. Exactly.
And, if that is indeed the case, I suppose they would want privacy and would not announce it to the world.

I sincerely hope that isn't the case though.



Peace:thumbsup:
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INdemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 04:01 PM
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9. DU needs to shut down for a few days and give the administrator's and Skinner
a chance to rid this site of all the freepers.....Its gotten much worse in the last few months and its not just because of the primaries..Its because this site has been invaded by Freppers and we need to weed them out.
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cgrindley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 05:04 PM
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24. So if someone doesn't like Edwards, they're a freeper?
Edited on Sat Feb-02-08 05:05 PM by cgrindley
Edwards' former supporters need to stop their whining.
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INdemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 07:38 PM
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32. No........There are freepers on here that are very good at stirring up
controversy and they've seem to be increasing in numbers the last few months.......thats all
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Laura PourMeADrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 04:44 PM
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17. You are so right ! Thanks for saying that ! I think back to Nov 04 when
I joined DU - it was nothing like that at all - people were courteous!
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 03:49 PM
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2. I hope to God not,
but it's the only reason I can think of for him to drop out so suddenly and unexpectedly.

We are praying for you Elizabeth! :grouphug:
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 04:14 PM
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12. I Got A Thank You Email With A Video Attached Of His Speech...
He thanked me as a supporter, then after the niceties, the FULL text of his speech was written out. There is NOTHING in that speech that indicates anything about Elizabeth, but it IS full of "codes" for wont of a better word. At least for me it is, and for many others here.

I have NO DOUBT he was pushed out buy some heavy duty people!

At one of my addresses, JUST TODAY I got an email from TWO heavyweights in the Democratic Party. I'm sure many others have to. I'm not going to name the names, but I did find a way to write ONE of them and give HIM a piece of my mind! John Edwards is a man of his word... HE SAID he was going to stay in until the Convention and I believe he WOULD have.

He got leaned on, but I don't know what THEY used to make him leave. Conspiracy theory here... his daughter had a minor car accident, may have been a catalyst! Mind you, that's just a thought, no PROOF!

The speech he gave doesn't even sound like John Edwards! John Edwards has NO speech writer, and every time I've EVER seen him speak it's without notes OR something written on paper. He flubbed the speech, UNCOMMON, very uncommon for him. I seriously doubt he even wrote the words! I don't think it's about Elizabeth at all.

There is a thread here asking people to VOTE FOR HIM on Super Tuesday if you are one of the states involved. His name is still on them from what I'm hearing. Please send a message to the OLD DOGS any maybe a few "new" ones who did this!! Please vote for John Edwards ANYWAY!! Actually, it's "we the people" the last time I looked!

It's DIRTY and STINKS to high heaven. I now, I'm sure I'm on some list somewhere and almost feel a need to be looking over my shoulder. Especially after what I wrote to the "person!"
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 04:46 PM
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19. Your implication that he was forced out by "Democratic heavy weights"
doesn't really cut it. First of all, the experts are divided on which of the two are helped. I think it was likely a combination of campaigning being really really hard for anyone - and especially with young kids and a wife, who has been out there an amazing amount considering her health, reality that it was not going to happen, and maybe a view that bowing out gracefully now could get his issues more prominence than if he waited.
I can think of two "sets" of heavyweights who may have sent an email, if I am correct your insinuations are despicable, especially with your inference that they would threaten his family. It is far easier to believe that Edwards so a gain for his causes in deciding not to stay in.
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 05:06 PM
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25. Just Saying... And If By Calling Me Despicable Makes It Good For You...
I can take the name calling. From what I've seen since 2006, it's hard for me to "trust" much of anything! Pretty cynical for sure and I would LOVE to see otherwise. I said I didn't have any PROOF, but I find it a bit strange that "all of a sudden" I get an email when I wasn't on their lists!! Plus, I had already written to the DSCC, the DCCC some time back telling them to REMOVE me from their lists. I also have gotten several phone calls from the DNC, and I told them not to call me for any donations and to remove my name from there.

So, if what I'm feeling is uncomfortable, believe me I've KNOWN uncomfortable for a very long time.

I knew if I wrote this what was going to happen... and I expect MORE! But it's how "I" feel!

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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 07:20 PM
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30. I did not call you despicable - I said your insinuations were
I don't even care which Dem heavy weights you are imply - from Bill and Hillary Clinton to Obama To Kerry and Kennedy. I stand by my descriptor. The idea that they would have a drunk drive hit the car of Cate Edwards is unthinkable.

It is far easier for me to think that Edwards went back on what he said - likely for reasons he thought reasonable.
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 07:43 PM
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34. Okay... I Take Back What You See As An Insinuation... And I Didn't
name ANY name. Perhaps my thinking out loud is uncouth to some extent. But it's not "far easier" for me to think he went back on his word. I have gotten emails from the Edwards campaign for a long time now.

The last one I got thanked me for supporting him, then it requested I watch the video of his speech in NO... AND then after that, the whole speech, word or word was written out for me to read. It doesn't SOUND like John Edwards, he flubbed the delivery, so he's just tired or he's devastated! We just disagree here.

And remember Ross Perot, who I thought was a "quack" when he said his daughter had an accident. And YES, it could be coincidence. I just don't think he went back on his word. I got an earlier email saying they were having record breaking donations and they were looking forward to Super Tuesday.

And then.... I'm suspending my candidacy? Would you agree it's mysterious at least?

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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 03:50 PM
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4. That's just guesswork
but considering a story a day earlier on AOL had said his fundraising was doing better and his support increasing, the thought crossed my mind, too.

He said he was "suspending," not ending his campaign. I intend to vote for him on Tuesday. It's the only way I can vote for a rational health plan.

In any case, it's probably best to keep speculation to a minimum and wish the best for both of them.
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 05:34 PM
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29. Perhaps Your Assumption Might Be Best... However, I'm Sick & Tired
of lending my time and money, heart and soul to something and then feel like I got slapped in the face. I'm sure backroom deals are made all the time, but it's reached a boiling point as I see it. We have a Constitution and these people were elected to SERVE THE PEOPLE. I'm still looking for what I'm getting for my money, heart and soul.

I taught my kids... If You Can't Stand Up For Something, You'll Fall For Anything! My father taught that to me. If the "speculation" has legs, is it better to let it lie? I've seen more than enough conspiracy theories running rampant here and many of them have YET to die.

I suppose I just don't believe the phrase "My Country Do Or Die" anymore. There's a song written by Jackson Browne called "Lives In The Balance." I've talked about it here many times, and each time I hear it, or read the words, it makes so much sense to me.

Perhaps I should just post the words... then some can see what I feel and why I feel this way.

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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 03:55 PM
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6. She had a cold .Her first day schedualed back was the day he suspended.
She had a check up the doctors said she was doing "well" acording to the Charleston Paper.
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LoveForPeace Donating Member (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 03:58 PM
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7. People lie
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 04:02 PM
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10. Her doctors lie? I hardly think so. The edwards have been rellu upfront about any ups and downs
in her condition and I do NOT think they would lie about it.I certanly don't think the Doctors would lie and use their names and be quoted.Sorry.
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never_get_over_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 04:08 PM
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11. I have been VERY worried about this
it makes NO POLITICAL sense to me that he dropped out so abruptly. Actually it would have been easier for him to do it if he didn't do well next Tuesday - his stepping aside comment - you know not going on the the convention would have MADE so much more sense then.

I did read somewhere that she had a cold - and that he went to the basketball game Thursday made me feel better BUT

7 days to stay in or out of a campaign makes little difference - BUT 7 days if she got some HORRIBLE HORRIBLE news would be significant

I hope my fears are wrong.

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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 04:41 PM
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15. LoveForPeace,
Here's wishing the best for Elizabeth and John. I hope with all my heart that she's OK.
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Inspired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 04:46 PM
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18. You are always so reasonable, David!
I hope she is OK, too. Here's to John and Elizabeth!
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 05:03 PM
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23. I love Elizabeth Edwards.
How could anyone not treasure this woman? She's as good as there comes.
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ginchinchili Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 04:42 PM
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16. Where have you been?
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Clinton Crusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 04:49 PM
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20. I hope and pray we are all wrong
I adore her and I hope we are all thinking something that isn't true but I have to say I found the whole thing odd myself. He said he was staying till the end and he suddenly dropped out. There wasn't a hint this was coming. I have breast cancer myself and believe me the treatment is exhausting and grueling. I am in the radiation phase and I have had to take a break (my drs. told me to) from radiation because I was so badly burned from it. She already is way past this phase, she has had a metastasis (it spread). She is the bravest person I have seen, to go through this with kids and campaign, Good God, I do not know how she does it.

But as far as him dropping out, he did use odd language as in 'suspending', and it was a strange speech, not Edwards style at all. I dunno, I find the whole thing strange, like did he jump or was he pushed sorta thing.

Be well Elizabeth.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 05:06 PM
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26. I do agree that the speech
was an odd one for him and awkwardly delivered. He doesn't usually stumble through his speeches, but that was very tough for him, I think.

Regardless, I hope everything is alright. And if his name is still on the NC ballot in May, I'll vote for him then. They can hammer things out at the convention.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 07:23 PM
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31. An alternative reason is that much of the energy in his speeches
is in the fight. I have seen many concession speeches - and few sound like stump speeches. Edwards, like any other person who runs, found it hard to give up.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 04:56 PM
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21. She might be receiving treatment? nt
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 04:56 PM
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22. She might be receiving treatment? nt
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adapa Donating Member (427 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 05:07 PM
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27. That was my husbands first thought when Edwards announced he was pulling out
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raincity_calling Donating Member (143 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 05:20 PM
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28. He was pushed out
There are indicators in his speech that make me believe that he was pressured to drop out.

First, the words he stumbled over were something about him stepping out so that "history can blaze its path." Then there were words about "the Democratic Party will make history" and "we will be unified."

I don't think it is coincidence that the very next day there was a professional looking video on U-Tube that presents the Democrats’ historic election – a black man and woman.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x89353

If you watched the CNN California debate, the intro to the debate was all about this "historic moment" for the Democratic Party, the first time we will "see an African American and a woman vying for the Democratic nomination...A moment in American history we have not seen before...a race of historic possibilities."

In the debate, Clinton uses the words, "unified Democratic Party."

Edwards' speech was not his speech; it included phrases that the Party is using to frame this election.

He was pressured to step out - I only hope he, and we, get something meaningful in retur.

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venable Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 07:41 PM
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33. She's fine. Nothing's changed, same diagnosis, same prognosis. nt
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