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senseandsensibility (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 05:45 PM Original message |
Why is Obama not campaigning in California? |
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libertee (437 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 05:46 PM Response to Original message |
1. He's not been heard of in NYS either... |
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neutron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 07:00 PM Response to Reply #1 |
56. I thought Oprah was |
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sunonmars (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 07:02 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. problem is its the biggest state to blow off and thats what Californians will think |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 05:47 PM Response to Original message |
2. It is the math. |
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Flabbergasted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 05:49 PM Response to Reply #2 |
10. That's it. |
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loveangelc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 05:49 PM Response to Reply #2 |
13. How do you figure that? I think he should still try and get his % point number up. |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 05:51 PM Response to Reply #13 |
19. As I posted in the thread below... |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 06:01 PM Response to Reply #19 |
34. IMO, 60-40% delegate split is a victory for Obama. Realistically, since early ballots |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 06:03 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. I don't think Hillary will win the state by 20 points |
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senseandsensibility (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 06:04 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. No, not the last poll I saw anyway |
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loveangelc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 06:04 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. despite the ~early voting~ ? |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 06:05 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. Yes |
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loveangelc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 06:08 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. But everyone is saying that half the votes have been cast....which I would think is overwhelmingly |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 06:10 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. That's wrong |
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loveangelc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 06:16 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. Everyone is saying half the votes have been cast though. |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 05:56 PM Original message |
You get Delegates based on how you do in a Congressional District |
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sunonmars (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 05:47 PM Response to Original message |
3. too many states, too little time, that was always his big problem |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 05:47 PM Response to Original message |
4. Lowering expectations? Didn't Oprah do a gig for him? |
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sunonmars (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 05:48 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. I don't see Mass going for Obama whatsoever |
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loveangelc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 05:50 PM Response to Reply #8 |
17. How is it an embarrassment when the media has been saying its safely in the Clinton column? |
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sunonmars (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 05:51 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. well as far as i can see many polls still put her in the 50's there |
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loveangelc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 06:02 PM Response to Reply #18 |
35. well thats why most people think its not contested. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 05:55 PM Response to Reply #17 |
25. It tarnishes the reputations of the Senators who endorsed him, suggesting that |
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loveangelc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 06:02 PM Response to Reply #25 |
36. How the hell does it tarnish their reputations? You are funny. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 06:25 PM Response to Reply #36 |
51. You seem to have a curious concept of what an endorsement involves. |
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loveangelc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 08:07 PM Response to Reply #51 |
65. But who really thinks a solidly Clinton state will go Obama because of 2 senator endorsements? |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 08:14 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. I love all of this "If it's even close, it's a win" bullshit. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 05:52 PM Response to Reply #8 |
20. And Deval, our gov and one of his early endorsers, if that's the way it plays out. |
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DJ13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 05:47 PM Response to Original message |
5. Tomorrow theres a big rally planned in LA |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 05:48 PM Response to Original message |
6. He thinks he can do well enought to take delegates away from her...and |
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ellisonz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 05:49 PM Response to Reply #6 |
12. The Closers. |
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libertee (437 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 05:50 PM Response to Reply #6 |
15. Oprah doesn't surprise me..Caroline I expected more of..don't know why..n/t |
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Olney Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 05:48 PM Response to Original message |
7. I'm sure he has surrogates there working hard. It's tough to decide |
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senseandsensibility (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 05:50 PM Response to Reply #7 |
14. Yes, there's a current thread in GDP about Kerry |
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sunonmars (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 05:52 PM Response to Reply #14 |
21. I honestly think California is not going to be as close as you think |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 05:56 PM Response to Reply #21 |
29. Only 22% are early ballots |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 05:58 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. If 22% are early ballots for both parties, they are also 20-22% or so of the |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 05:59 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. That is divided up between both parties. |
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Zynx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 06:14 PM Response to Reply #33 |
46. I was commenting on your 11-15% number. |
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sunonmars (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 07:06 PM Response to Reply #46 |
58. according to yahoo |
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gulliver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 10:25 PM Response to Reply #33 |
71. Pretty sure Zynx is right. In fact it is probably a lot more than 22% Dem. |
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Bullet1987 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 07:08 PM Response to Reply #29 |
59. Not to mention everyone seems to ignore the Indie Factor... |
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sunonmars (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 07:10 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. its been touted most of the earlies backed Clinton with about 60% of them apparently |
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suston96 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 05:48 PM Response to Original message |
9. Tomorrow with Oprah, Kennedy etc......? |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 05:49 PM Response to Original message |
11. He's sending Kerry, Ted and Carolina Kennedy and Oprah there |
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senseandsensibility (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 06:08 PM Response to Reply #11 |
42. Do the polls show him ahead in |
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sunonmars (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 05:50 PM Response to Original message |
16. Only 2 days campaigning left because Tuesday is buggered for stumping. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 06:31 PM Response to Reply #16 |
53. Superbowl Sunday is kinda hosed, really. I'm not a fanatic for football, |
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sunonmars (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 06:58 PM Response to Reply #53 |
54. So campaigning on Sunday is screwed too for Superbowl,that leaves Monday,lol no time |
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Lucinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 05:53 PM Response to Original message |
22. I think he has a big rally planned tomorrow, with Caroline Kennedy and Oprah |
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sunonmars (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 05:55 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. but as California primary votes are going to be into the millions |
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Lucinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 05:59 PM Response to Reply #24 |
32. I agree. Someone said he had a good ground game in place in California |
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sunonmars (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 06:03 PM Response to Reply #32 |
38. might backfire, i go nuts if political ads come in the middle during superbowl |
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senseandsensibility (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 06:10 PM Response to Reply #32 |
45. He does have people on the ground |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 05:53 PM Response to Original message |
23. I dunno...Why is Hillary still there trying to lock it down? |
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sunonmars (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 05:56 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. The bigger the percentage difference at the end, the more pressure on Obama to fall. |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 05:56 PM Response to Reply #23 |
28. 'Cause it's not such a |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 05:56 PM Response to Original message |
27. He thinks he has us in his hip pocket? |
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Bullet1987 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 07:12 PM Response to Reply #27 |
61. WTF? Clinton can afford to camp out in Cali |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 08:40 PM Response to Reply #61 |
67. It must be nice to have all those corporate donations. n/t |
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Drunken Irishman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 05:58 PM Response to Original message |
30. He is and Obama is going to do very well in California. |
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caligirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 06:17 PM Response to Reply #30 |
48. He was in LA yesterday focusing on the Latino vote, an important effort. |
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senseandsensibility (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 06:23 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. I agree |
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sunonmars (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 06:59 PM Response to Reply #48 |
55. he did an outreach at a latino college on Thursday, only AA voters turned up |
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demo dutch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 07:18 PM Response to Reply #55 |
63. Latino caucusgoers and primary voters in Nevada and Florida voted almost 3-to-1 for Clinton.. Link: |
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cgrindley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 06:25 PM Response to Original message |
50. Better idea: why doesn't Obama just use his powers of teleportation? |
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rox63 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 06:29 PM Response to Original message |
52. Obama spent a couple of days in CA earlier this week |
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sunonmars (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 07:14 PM Response to Original message |
62. just heard from some callbankers for Clinton in California, the debate swinging the undecided to her |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 07:19 PM Response to Original message |
64. He is |
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cooolandrew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 09:06 PM Response to Reply #64 |
68. Thank you for clarifying, Cali could score big for Barack. |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 09:07 PM Response to Reply #64 |
69. My theory is that they don't really care about the answers. They just want to |
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tishaLA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 09:41 PM Response to Original message |
70. Obama is here tomorrow |
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