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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 11:54 PM Original message |
Hillary campaign says DNC delegates rules are not the rules of her campaign. |
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thunder rising (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 12:00 AM Response to Original message |
1. Hillary is the snake of the past crawling out to keep the nightmare of triangulation and large corp |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 12:08 AM Response to Original message |
2. A 2nd Florida lawsuit was filed by a Tampa activist. It was dismissed. |
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DebraK (228 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 12:12 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Hillary doesn't play by the rules. She cheats. I thought this was common knowledge |
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leftynyc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 11:27 AM Response to Reply #4 |
29. She does?? Do tell (eom) |
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WillYourVoteBCounted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 11:42 AM Response to Reply #4 |
37. she goes by DLC ruules - pro war anti populist n/t |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 03:18 PM Response to Reply #2 |
117. It's being appealed to Atlanta - HRC comment refers to way popular vote winner gets fewer delegates |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 12:12 AM Response to Original message |
3. Of course not...hilary and bil don't need no |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 12:48 AM Response to Reply #3 |
19. If they win the primary because of MI and FL votes, they WILL lose the GE |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 12:53 AM Response to Reply #19 |
21. clintons are too dirty for |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 12:57 AM Response to Reply #21 |
23. I won't do that, but if they push this issue, and win the primary because MI and FL |
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cooolandrew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 12:15 AM Response to Original message |
5. I'm all for DNC but not so certain about DLC. May HRC have many blessings to be positive & gracious. |
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Az_lefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 12:16 AM Response to Original message |
6. Hillary is the monster Politik from the past... |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 12:17 AM Response to Original message |
7. NOW does any HONEST Democrat still think Terry McAuliffe was working FOR US |
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ErnestoG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 12:39 AM Response to Reply #7 |
14. Fuck no. He revealed himself as a greasy shit when he |
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DebraK (228 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 12:54 AM Response to Reply #14 |
22. Exactly. Hillary is funded by federal lobbyist and PAC money. She will pay back the insurance compan |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 12:44 PM Response to Reply #14 |
89. And when he sabotaged Kerry campaign AND Ohio voters in 2004. |
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BattyDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 12:27 AM Response to Original message |
8. "The rules don't apply to me." |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 12:32 AM Response to Original message |
9. they LIE |
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Egnever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 12:34 AM Response to Original message |
10. Wow they really are runing with this arent they. |
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D23MIURG23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 04:05 PM Response to Reply #10 |
118. That would be the only case where I wouldn't support the nominee |
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DebraK (228 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 12:37 AM Response to Original message |
11. why is everybody so suprised? we all knows she doesn't play by the rules |
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DebraK (228 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 12:45 AM Response to Reply #11 |
17. kicked for the truth |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 12:38 AM Response to Original message |
12. I said that I would vote for whoever the Democratic candidate is, let me now qualify |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 12:40 AM Response to Reply #12 |
15. Yeah, they can pull |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 12:39 AM Response to Original message |
13. It's her first signing statement. nt |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 12:41 AM Response to Reply #13 |
16. If they push this, and win the nomination because of it, she WILL lose the GE |
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ErnestoG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 12:46 AM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Oh she'll lose it over other stuff than this. |
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still_one (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 12:49 AM Response to Reply #18 |
20. That may or may not be, but for sure she won't have a chance without Obama's supporters |
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TornadoTN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 11:39 AM Response to Reply #20 |
33. That would push me over the edge |
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GalleryGod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 11:54 AM Response to Reply #16 |
56. Money, Guns, and Lawyers! |
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WillYourVoteBCounted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 11:43 AM Response to Reply #13 |
38. ding ding ding |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 12:15 PM Response to Reply #13 |
75. Yahtzee. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 01:19 PM Response to Reply #13 |
100. Now THAT would make a GREAT thread to post describing it EXACTLY like that. |
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City Lights (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 01:00 AM Response to Original message |
24. So what is she gonna do? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 01:03 AM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Well, I wanted someone to tell me I misread it. |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 01:13 AM Response to Original message |
26. Like Bush and Cheney, the Clintons feel they are above the law and rules |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 11:25 AM Response to Reply #26 |
28. Jackson Stephens, Marc Rich, Dubai and Saudi royals were GRATEFUL Bill deep-sixed BCCI report |
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TornadoTN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 11:40 AM Response to Reply #26 |
34. Careful! If you say the "entitlement" word you will get blasted by her supporters |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 01:27 AM Response to Original message |
27. Her statements about FL from Sept, and from last week. Very different. |
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Maribelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 11:31 AM Response to Reply #27 |
31. Yet again, like Obama and Kerry, you are totally confused about the difference ... |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 11:41 AM Response to Reply #31 |
36. I am talking about respect for rules and for the party. |
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Maribelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 11:44 AM Response to Reply #36 |
40. I didn't misunderstand one iota. Not even one. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 11:47 AM Response to Reply #40 |
45. That is an attack on my credibility. |
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Maribelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 11:49 AM Response to Reply #45 |
48. It's an attack against your twisting of reality. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 11:51 AM Response to Reply #48 |
50. You just said I lied. Prove it or back off. |
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Maribelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 11:53 AM Response to Reply #50 |
54. I didn't say you lied. I said you were confused. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 12:01 PM Response to Reply #54 |
60. You need to stop that now. |
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Maribelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 12:16 PM Response to Reply #60 |
77. Here is what you seem to be confused about: "under those rules" |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 12:19 PM Response to Reply #77 |
80. Here is the quote again. You are not reading it. |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 12:04 PM Response to Reply #40 |
62. i don't think you want to go there.... mad is VERY informed on this issue... |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 12:06 PM Response to Reply #62 |
65. madfloridian has shown their lack of understanding of this subject on several instances. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 12:14 PM Response to Reply #65 |
74. Who is "they". What do you mean by "their"? Who do you mean? |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 12:19 PM Response to Reply #74 |
81. I would not be OK with Hillary going to court over a 50 delegate spread, no. |
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jackstraw45 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 11:27 AM Response to Original message |
30. Taking another page from the Bu$h administration...first fear-mongering, now this... |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 07:44 PM Response to Reply #30 |
103. Take it easy, this is only Hillary's first signing statement. |
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Araxen (826 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 11:36 AM Response to Original message |
32. Setup for an Independent run? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 11:41 AM Response to Original message |
35. Deleted sub-thread |
joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 11:44 AM Response to Original message |
39. What is the actual response? I don't want a "gist." I want a response. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 11:45 AM Response to Reply #39 |
42. Ask Chris. It was his question and he was on the phone. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 11:46 AM Response to Reply #42 |
44. So he didn't record it or write it down verbatim? I highly doubt his analysis then. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 11:54 AM Response to Reply #44 |
55. That is your right. . |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 11:45 AM Response to Original message |
41. Rules? Ain't no stinkin' rules. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 11:47 AM Response to Reply #41 |
46. DNC rules can be changed at the convention, everyone knows this. |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 11:46 AM Response to Original message |
43. "Here is the answer from the campaign, paraphrased by Chris" < That's not her answer |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 11:47 AM Response to Reply #43 |
47. I fully agree, "gist" does not make a proper statement. |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 11:52 AM Response to Reply #43 |
51. I read down the comments after ignoring this for a few days-If there is a post |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 11:49 AM Response to Original message |
49. Clearly an attempt to distort what the campaign said. nt |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 11:52 AM Response to Reply #49 |
53. Chris is a supporter of hers I think. |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 11:58 AM Response to Reply #53 |
58. You added a nice touch of spin. nt |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 12:03 PM Response to Reply #58 |
61. Oh, Jim4wes....I could say the sky was blue... |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 12:38 PM Response to Reply #61 |
87. Clearly the meaning is "We did not make the rules" Thats why it says later |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 12:45 PM Response to Reply #87 |
90. Show me where it says they will comply. |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 12:46 PM Response to Reply #90 |
91. ok |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 12:50 PM Response to Reply #91 |
92. including going after Florida delegates. |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 12:53 PM Response to Reply #92 |
93. They can't "go after them" without an agreement. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 12:57 PM Response to Reply #93 |
96. They are planning on it. |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 12:59 PM Response to Reply #96 |
97. Sure, they will "try" to get an agreement. |
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GalleryGod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 11:52 AM Response to Original message |
52. "TRIANGULATION Part III" |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 07:44 PM Response to Reply #52 |
104. More like Arrogant Signing Statements Part2 |
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SoxFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 11:58 AM Response to Original message |
57. L'etat, c'est moi |
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Maribelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 12:06 PM Response to Reply #57 |
64. gros jeu, potiron |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 11:59 AM Response to Original message |
59. The quote is still on Chris's website. To those attacking me go there. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 12:05 PM Response to Reply #59 |
63. You're the one parroting his comments as unadultrated truth. You should be all for... |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 12:08 PM Response to Reply #63 |
67. You don't know that. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 12:09 PM Response to Reply #67 |
69. I am not in denial, I think Chris merely misunderstood what was being said to him. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 12:11 PM Response to Reply #69 |
73. You THINK? Sorry that is not good enough. You tell me you want facts |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 12:17 PM Response to Reply #73 |
79. Deleted message |
Two Americas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 10:36 PM Response to Reply #69 |
106. mf was honest and clear |
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workinclasszero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 12:08 PM Response to Original message |
66. Leave the DLC and all that ancient |
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suston96 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 12:09 PM Response to Original message |
68. I don't care how many courts dismiss or rule against the voters in those states. It is wrong and... |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 12:10 PM Response to Reply #68 |
70. Those delegates will be seated, both Obama and Hillary have said as much. |
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milkyway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 12:10 PM Response to Original message |
71. The Clintons have no shame. Strong-armed, machine politics is all they have to offer. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 12:11 PM Response to Reply #71 |
72. Please read the thread, the information posted is misleading and wrong. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 12:16 PM Response to Reply #72 |
76. Then you are saying Chris Bowers lied as well. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 12:20 PM Response to Reply #76 |
82. No, he's misled, not lying. There's a difference. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 12:24 PM Response to Reply #82 |
83. He was the one on the phone with the Hillary campaign...NOT you. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 12:27 PM Response to Reply #83 |
84. I'm only pointing out your reasoning, you start off asking if something is true and then conclude... |
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suston96 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 12:29 PM Response to Reply #71 |
85. Yeah! Shame! Shame! Shame! How dare they support: all votes by ALL Dems will count? |
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dchill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 12:16 PM Response to Original message |
78. "We are the Cleentons..." |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 12:34 PM Response to Original message |
86. I really do get it now. |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 12:42 PM Response to Reply #86 |
88. Thank you for your post. |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 12:55 PM Response to Reply #86 |
94. Another typical thread by madfloridian, lol. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 01:02 PM Response to Reply #94 |
98. Jim, I won't play your game. You should know better. |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 01:02 PM Response to Reply #98 |
99. I see that. nt |
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Two Americas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 10:45 PM Response to Reply #94 |
107. tremendous contributions |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 10:51 PM Response to Reply #107 |
108. A nice word, thanks. |
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Two Americas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 11:24 PM Response to Reply #108 |
109. keep up the great work |
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BootinUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 08:21 PM Response to Reply #107 |
119. My take is she twists words to change the meaning |
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milkyway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 12:56 PM Response to Reply #86 |
95. This forum has become ridiculous. Any substantive post critical of Hillary is met immediately by |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 02:22 PM Response to Original message |
101. Chris continues. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 05:42 PM Response to Original message |
102. Sounds like Clinton will get her way? |
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K Gardner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 11:35 PM Response to Reply #102 |
110. I posted about this earlier, when Wolfson was on CNN and said she intended to have her |
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iamjoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 09:06 PM Response to Original message |
105. She's Full Of It |
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K Gardner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-05-08 11:36 PM Response to Reply #105 |
111. She's not full of it. She's just desperate and amoral and has no integrity or shame. |
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droidamus2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 07:38 AM Response to Original message |
112. Don't agree |
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bookweight (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 11:49 AM Response to Reply #112 |
116. Resident of Michigan checking in with a comment |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 09:15 AM Response to Original message |
113. I agree |
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JeanGrey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 09:41 AM Response to Original message |
114. Look, Hillary isn't going to LOSE, she will whatever she has |
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rniel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 09:48 AM Response to Original message |
115. more evidence |
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angrypoet (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 11:54 PM Response to Original message |
120. How very strange |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 12:20 PM Response to Reply #120 |
121. Thanks for the sensible post. |
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Myrina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 12:54 PM Response to Original message |
122. Sounds alot like ol' GW, doesn't she? |
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