THUNDER HANDS
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Tue Feb-05-08 12:37 AM
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If You Want To Know Why Hillary Supported The War In Iraq |
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you need look no further than her supporters here on DU.
You're the reason she voted for the war. If she didn't think you'd still be in her corner after that vote, she never would have supported it.
She knew that voting for it would keep her from looking weak in a general election run, but by the same token, she knew that she could still afford to vote for it and her base would still be behind her.
Because she takes you for granted.
She knows there are supporters of hers who would walk through fire for her, who would be with her to the bitter end.
So what's one vote on the war. Or two. Or 10.
She'll still have you in the morning. And if she gets a little misty-eyed, she can have you make breakfast for her too.
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Tue Feb-05-08 12:40 AM
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1. ok, good. then what's the reason obama votes to support the war and funds it as well? BTW |
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Edited on Tue Feb-05-08 12:42 AM by msongs
not voting for hillaryobama in CA tomorrow. you want em, you can have em.
Msongs
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Tue Feb-05-08 12:42 AM
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Edited on Tue Feb-05-08 12:42 AM by Magic Rat
he doesn't have the power to bring the troops home, so the least he could do is make sure they have proper equipment so they don't get killed while they are there.
but, yeah, thanks for addressing the issue. want to discuss hillary at all?
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Tue Feb-05-08 12:43 AM
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4. Same reason hillary does |
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Cause now we are in this fucked up mess we cant get out by shorting the troops. We need a planed withdrawal not a forced withdrawal. Its important to protect our kids on their way out and the whole time they are in there as best as we can.
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Tue Feb-05-08 12:43 AM
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3. You mean the way Obama is with gays? |
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Tue Feb-05-08 12:45 AM
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6. no, it's actually nothing like that |
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but can you defend my original point, or would you just like to play the 'he's not perfect either' game.
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Tue Feb-05-08 12:45 AM
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5. This disingenuous bullshit AGAIN? |
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The responsibility for the Iraq war lies solely and unequivocally on the White House that lied and misled Congress in the run-up to the authorization act.
The O-Bots have tried this tactic again and again and again, like a thousands monkeys flinging their shit against the wall. But just like the monkeys, they are getting increasingly shrill and frustrated as they see that their shit just doesn't stick, and all they have left to show for it are 10 stinky fingers.
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Tue Feb-05-08 12:46 AM
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8. she can't defend her vote, neither can her supporters |
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it's not a question of the war being her responsiblity. But her VOTE is her responsibility.
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Tue Feb-05-08 01:01 AM
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11. The Rat ducks and weaves yet again |
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Read slowly, maybe it'll penetrate the fog.
Congress was lied to by the Bush administration. If you are expecting/demanding/hoping/wishing some bit of "I regret my vote" pandering to appease the fringe netroots, then both I and Hillary (tho she says it nicer than I am about to) will cheerfully tell you to go fuck yourself.
It is not coming, nor is it deserved or warranted. Bush lied, they supported on the basis of that lie. It is over. Clinton is looking forward at how to bring this sorry mess of an occupation to and end, while Obama and his kool-aid sippers wallow in the past and bleat on and on about 5-year-old votes.
Keep your head in the sand, or up each others asses, or wherever you like. When you decide to catch up with the rest of us in looking forward, then by all means do so. Hit the light on your way out.
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Tue Feb-05-08 07:36 AM
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14. so she voted for it because she was tricked by Bush |
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that dasterdly evil genius outsmarted Hillary. Nice.
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Tue Feb-05-08 08:20 AM
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19. Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of |
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2002. What a tricky title!! No way Hillary could have known what that was about. She wuz tricked. Should have been titled. Resolution to kill 1 million Iraqis, 30,000 U.S. soldiers, & bankrupt the nation Resolution of 2002. Then she would have known.
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Tue Feb-05-08 08:48 AM
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21. Another lying little Obamabot? Not surprising |
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The resolution instructed the President to pursue such action within the confines of the United Nations. He chose to violate that, not Clinton.
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Tue Feb-05-08 12:04 PM
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25. Hillary delivered war...not healthcare |
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Vote for war, get war, act confused...Hillary's mantra
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Tue Feb-05-08 12:45 AM
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7. Good point , but I don't think Obama would have not voted for it either.. |
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Edited on Tue Feb-05-08 12:45 AM by AGirl
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Tue Feb-05-08 12:52 AM
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9. Is this the best you can come up with? "Well, I think would've been bad too nah nah" |
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Get over it. He made a speech opposing it. She was for the war. She voted for it. She opposed the Levin amendment which would have saved us going into Iran.
She is for the war. Stop trying to drag Barack into the mud where your candidate is.
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Tue Feb-05-08 01:03 AM
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12. this is the best you can come up with? |
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blah blah blah
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Tue Feb-05-08 01:00 AM
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10. In the end, it was the responsible thing to do at the time. |
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You know it as well as I do. Anything else is bullshit.
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Tue Feb-05-08 12:06 PM
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26. Only the 'irresponsible' voted against IWR?????????????????? |
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Up is down, down is up....
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Tue Feb-05-08 07:32 AM
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Tue Feb-05-08 08:10 AM
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18. I really want to know why she supported it, but she didn't even read the bill so how would she know? |
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Tue Feb-05-08 09:42 AM
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24. It was the NIE she didn't read. |
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The national intelligence briefing that convinced Bob Graham the WMD story was a sham. Hillary couldn't be bothered to read it, yet she insists she did her "due diligence."
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Tue Feb-05-08 08:38 AM
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20. Somebody tell me why she voted? |
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Tue Feb-05-08 08:50 AM
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22. You aren't worth the effort to explain it again |
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Read the above responses (the ones that don't originate from Obama kool-aid sippers), maybe they will clue you in a bit.
Maybe.
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Tue Feb-05-08 12:10 PM
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27. because she wanted to appear strong on 'defense' for the prez |
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Tue Feb-05-08 09:35 AM
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Is it the same reason why she supports cluster bombs?
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Tue Feb-05-08 12:15 PM
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28. Hillary will be running for re-election on DAY 1. She'll do a Lieberman 180 on Iraq as soon |
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as she's in office. Can't look weak, ya know.
Hillary is the war-making wing of the Democratic party.
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Tue Feb-05-08 12:27 PM
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29. She'll probably bomb Montreal in the 1st 24 hours. |
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Defending Murka like Dubya!!
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