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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 07:22 AM
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Ordinarily I would be quite skepical o Zogby CA polling results
but this is a rolling average poll and it is the secod day of seeing a 13 point gap. That would mean his polling method would have to be way off... and that seems really doubtful to me

I doubt it is as big as he says it is....but note that there is still 14% undecided and they typically are going to break decidedly for the perceived non-incumbent.

We will see
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 07:24 AM
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1. Oh why don't you just be truthful?
It favors your candidate. Do you think people are that stupid?
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 07:26 AM
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2. Obama people are as predictable as the sunrise.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 07:28 AM
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4. Apparently not because Clinton didn't see them coming. n/t
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 07:34 AM
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7. I knew you'd say that.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 07:36 AM
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9. You're especially prescient today!
:)

Good luck to your candidate today. She's also my mom's. If Hillary loses, I'm going into hiding because she'll be so disappointed.
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 07:38 AM
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10. Good luck to you, too. I'm more a Hillary defender than a supporter, in any case.
Edited on Tue Feb-05-08 07:40 AM by Perry Logan
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 07:28 AM
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5. and it does not favor your's so you automatically go on attack
Edited on Tue Feb-05-08 07:29 AM by Perky
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 07:31 AM
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6. Who's attacking?
Just pointing out the truth. Did you actually read what you wrote?
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Sulawesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 08:00 AM
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11. You're attacking, the post is clear...polls consistent so believable, but OP is a healthy skeptic...
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 08:02 AM
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12. Only when it's to her benefit.
Anyone one with half a brain can see that. So whats your excuse?
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 08:09 AM
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14. Oh good grief.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 08:10 AM
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15. Say it again! Charlie Brown.
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Sulawesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 08:25 AM
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16. Oh yes, and I see you posting all the time from a reasoned, neutral stance.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 08:26 AM
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17. I never said I did.
Thats the difference, I don't lie about it.
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Sulawesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 08:29 AM
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19. The OP didn't lie, they want to believe the polling but are skeptical...
and you went off the deep end. Enough though...you have at it...
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 08:31 AM
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21. And it's also you candidate so it is easy to see why you are after me in this thread.
Have at it baby, the truth always prevails.
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 07:28 AM
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3. Another poll problem: Romney up by 7%
"Romney continued to lead, however, in delegate-rich California, with 40% support in that state, to McCain’s 33%...."

If he is right, diety bless him... However, call me suspicious of his sampling in CA.


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totodeinhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 08:32 AM
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22. Yes, I'd love to get Romney in the general.
Easy pickings.
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RL3AO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 07:34 AM
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8. This is what happens with daily polls. It sacrafices (sp) accuracy.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 08:07 AM
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13. That it is a rolling average leads to it being there for more than one day.
What you see is an average of the last n days. If there is an outlier - say an unusually high point that statistically will occur occasionally, then that point will affect the estimate for n days. However the difference is only roughly 1/n of the outlier minus the average without it.
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Sulawesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 08:26 AM
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18. I thought the OP was reporting a 13-point edge in the second consecutive single day of polling
If not, then you are correct, with the added caveat that if it is one day, that one day was super bowl sunday.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 08:30 AM
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20. Sorry - I likely misread it - I agree with you that it is likely an amazing shift if it is the raw
date. That would show that HRC had a lot of very soft support.
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Araxen Donating Member (826 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 09:27 AM
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23. I don't put any faith in the polls
But that rally with Oprah/Maria/etc... may have had a big effect in the last couple days. We'll know tonight I guess.
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