Hillary BEATS the Kennedys

[ruggerson]

Yes!!!

[bicentennial_baby]

1. No, she beat Obama...

:)

[ruggerson]

5. I love Teddy dearly

but he fucked this one up big

[Bluerthanblue]

9. he didn't fuck anything up- except perhaps your dreams-

If Hillary is the winner, what is your problem?

She was expected to win there.- And it seems she did.

Isn't that enough?

Why tear down Ted?

peace~

[bicentennial_baby]

16. No, he endorsed the person he believed in...

Which means much more than going with the trendy candidate. :)

[ruggerson]

63. ok, you're right

he did what was in his heart. But we disagree on the "trendy" part. :)

[bicentennial_baby]

96. And that's fine

:)

[godai]

8. Proportional delegates probably 53/40 (Clinton/Obama) n/t

[Tellurian]

10. Hillary BEAT, Obama, Kennedy, Kerry and Patrick!!! WAY TO GO HILL!

THANK YOU, Hill and Bill for showing the "boys" the door!

http://www.taylormarsh.com/images2/hillaryclinton_wideweb__470x308,02.jpg

[desi]

21. Hey Tell...I've got something SPECIALfor for THEM

:woohoo: :woohoo:

[Tellurian]

51. woo-hoo!... woo-hoo!... woo-hoo!... woo-hoo!

:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Clinton Crusader]

26. NOT Kerry, she endorsed Hillary. Caroline Kennedy you mean.

[desi]

39. John Kerry n/t

.

[jbnow]

46. How did she ever overcome

the odds in these polls for the state?
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/ma/massachusetts_democratic_primary-539.html
02/02 - 02/03 Clinton +17.0
02/01 - 02/03 Obama +2.0
01/30 - 01/30 Clinton +24.0
01/28 - 01/28 Clinton +6.0
01/20 - 01/26 Clinton +28.0
01/22 - 01/23 Clinton +37.0
01/16 - 01/16 Clinton +33.0
01/09 - 01/12 Clinton +12.0

[jlake]

19. Nah, ol' Teddy was desperately grasping for relevance.... didn't work out too well.

[Tellurian]

62. Howard Fineman calling Teddy...the"Old Mold"..

I know what he meant.. just sounded funny, like Ted is "moldy"!

[ellenfl]

2. huh? eom {edit} never mind.

[HughMoran]

3. stop gloating will ya - this is not a surprise victory

relax - it's gonna be a looooong night!

[William769]

4. Well I guess Obama was right about the change part.

:evilgrin:

[desi]

32. BILLY!!!!

Was this one an especially sweet win or what???

:applause: :woohoo: :rofl: :toast: :toast:

[William769]

36. Yes!

[desi]

52. Now we need Missouri

to send McCaskill back to the Senate and do some work for her constituents instead of the loser.

[William769]

53. It will be coming shortly.

Woo Hoo!

[desi]

68. Fingers and eyes crossed...

I've never been so damn nervous about an election as I am for this one. I did not turn the TV on until I read this thread and got to see Tweety drooling in his speech :rofl: :woohoo:

[Tellurian]

71. We have to watch for CA..

MA and CA are the prizes for the night!

[Tellurian]

70. Didn't I call it..Kerry is the Kiss of Death!

:toast:

[William769]

77. Well we all knew that.

But I'll let you take the credit. :hi:

[Tellurian]

83. If you're giving it..I'll take it!

{{{hugs}}} :)

[Hill_YesWeWill]

6. My God, I didn't realize they were running also . . . oh wait, I get it, ok

so Obama beat Bill in Georgia then?

[fenriswolf]

13. No he beat chelsea

god arn't you paying attention.

[Hill_YesWeWill]

58. lol nt

[Control-Z]

35. Hey

MSNBC made the statement that Hillary beat Ted. Which I found a little ridiculous but, OTOH, they've also been touting an upset by Obama since the Kennedy endorsements.

It's just the media doing what they get paid to do. Ruffle feathers.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

7. Not All Kennedys Were For Obama

http://www.hillaryclinton.com/video/121.aspx

[ruggerson]

11. true

but it's still sweet

[Iceburg]

The Kennedys:The worker bees were for Hill, the celebrities for Obama /nt

[Iceburg]

15. The Kennedys:The worker bees were for Hill, the celebrities for Obama /nt

[Tellurian]

30. Yup, RFKJr and Kathleen Kennedy Townsend (mini-gloating thereabouts)

[jillan]

12. Amazed!

:toast:

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[bicentennial_baby]

22. Welcome to ignore!

My Senator is a great voice and vote for the people of Massachusetts. I'm sorry you don't like his endorsement, but I'd vote for him any day of the week. :)

[Faygo Kid]

74. Not ignore. Alert.

Got to draw the line here at DU against worthless trash like this, given Ted Kennedy's fight for progressive causes.

[Athletic Grrl]

24. CNN has NOT called MA

I'd sit on MA for a while; Boston is not in yet.

[Breeze54]

49. She only got 19 delegates; Obama got 13

Kennedy has fought FOR you and you should be grateful for those fights on your behalf.

[milkyway]

55. Good to see all the Dem haters show their face.

[CyberPieHole]

65. No. Just showing Teddy the same respect he's shown Senator Clinton...No more. No less.

[milkyway]

73. I didn't realize the Democratic party was like the mafia, where you "disrepect" the presumed boss

if you prefer another candidate.

[Tellurian]

76. Nothing to presume anymore!

Hill IS BOSS!

[Tellurian]

75. The Voters sent them a great message tonight!

We Love Bill & Hill!

[MADem]

17. That's how MSNBC is playing it. I prefer to say she "corrected" them.

And they, and John 'Hubris' Kennedy, need to understand clearly that they HAVE been corrected.

Kerry's up for reelection this NOV. If I were to be as shitty to him as he was to the voters of his state, trying to make up our minds FOR us, I'd write in HR Clinton for his position!

[Tellurian]

81. Kerry has an opponent in Nov.. I believe he's a young attorney..

who is fed up with Kerry's pomposity!

[Mass]

18. Considering that MA was never in contention, just trying to get a good share of delegates,

Let me just say how stupid you look!

[kelligesq]

20. looks like it, embarrassing for Teddy & Kerry - GOOD !

:puke:

HA HA HA to the double dealing bastids

stids

[Faygo Kid]

33. That's the spirit. Keep it up.

How dare they not endorse Hillary.

Yep, tell them to go to hell for the general election, too.

Not sure you and your friends will need to do so anymore.

[kelligesq]

56. Kerry 2004 ,no one working that campaing has forgotten- Kennedy pushing Edwards out

For her to win in his own state and his rounding up every old crony he
could find to endorse a total ingenue -

Good on Hillary and she's not even my candidate

[karynnj]

90. Your link doesn't work

Neither Kerry or Ted did any double dealing. Kerry HELPED your candidate by giving him the VP slot, and he repaid him by refusing to even using the camapaign slogan. The Edwards also attacked the Kerrys - not the other way around. After all that you think he owed him something? Not to mention he wasn't taking his calls. As to EMK he helped Edwards enormously in his early days in the Senate - though I doubt EMK liked Edwards bankruptcy bill.

Get over your fantasy that someone forced Edwards out - just because he SAID he would say in. He changed his mind when it became clear he couldn't win.

[ronnykmarshall]

23. Come on ....

Don't be talking shit.

[bicentennial_baby]

29. You might want to get your fellow supporters in line...

This is nasty shite. Seriously.

[ronnykmarshall]

42. Like herding cats.

Trust me .... not easy!




Oh wait! Lemme get out the pen light!!!

[ruggerson]

60. meow

[TheDeathadder]

25. The Kennedys delivered nothing

[kelligesq]

48. backlash against Kennedy's betrayal of friends - i bet you

[Tellurian]

87. Worse, how embarrassing for them to continue campaigning for Obama!

[Mass]

54. 10 more points for Obama since two weeks ago. This is what they delivered.

[TheDeathadder]

102. Mass was not close

Nothing was delivered.

[EFerrari]

27. She deserves all the credit in the world for overcoming

the biggest egos in the party to make this run.

lol

[Tellurian]

88. Absolutely! Hillary's Win should send a huge message deflating their egos just a tad..

I read somewhere, Michelle worked on Caroline pretty good.

She wouldn't have gotten away with that stuff with Jackie!

Nice pic of Hillary:

[Faygo Kid]

28. Yep. She ought to reject them publicly if she gets the nomination.

That would show them.

[Breeze54]

37. That's silly.

Why would she cut off her nose to spite her face? Why would Obama? :shrug:

[kelligesq]

64. Oh , she'lll get him back - I'm sure

[Breeze54]

67. I thought HRC was the "all inclusive" candidate. Now you're saying she's vindictive too?

That's a really immature view, imho.

They NEED each other!!!

We need them to work together, whether she wins or not!! :eyes:

[Tellurian]

89. How do you know they won't work against her if she gets the nom?

They're working against her now...

[Breeze54]

97. Because they said they'd support her if she is the nominee

They're Democrats, not idiots.

[Tellurian]

101. There's an issue of non-trust.

Kerry has been absolutely "disgraceful" to Hillary!

pfffft! to Kerry..

http://www.taylormarsh.com/images2/hillaryclinton_wideweb__470x308,02.jpg

Go-Hillary!

[Breeze54]

31. HRC = 19 delegates / BO - 13 delegates

[godai]

47. CNN indicates 93 delegates n/t

[Breeze54]

61. Exactly and they're still counting votes...

but that's what ABC is reporting thus far....

http://abcnews.go.com/politics/elections/state?state=MA&ref=rrw

[godai]

69. Ok...thanks n/t

[Clinton Crusader]

34. Let's all get our Kennedys straight shall we?

Hillary=
Bobby Jr.
Kathleen
Kerry


Obama=
Teddy
Patrick
Caroline

[Tellurian]

91. This is how it goes..

Hillary=

RFKJr.
Kathleen

Obama=
Teddy
Patrick
Caroline
Maria

[gmudem]

38. Why are Clinton supporters pretending this is a surprise?

She was up by 37 in this state fairly recently. For Obama to take Mass it would mean an almost complete sweep for him. And that is clearly not going to happen for either candidate.

[Medusa]

44. Desperate people do desperate things?

Like pretend they've had some huge victory (Florida, Mass) when it was theirs to lose all along?

[Tellurian]

93. Teddy, Kerry and Deval Patrick (MA Gov) all represent MA

It's a huge humiliation for them to bomb in their own state!

They all came out for Obama with a big splash at American University, thinking, MA would go Obama!

[Breeze54]

103. Obama got 41%. That's not exactly a 'bomb out' of humiliation...

:eyes:

Clinton - 667,356 - 56% ----- 47 (delegates) Winner

Obama -- 485,194 - 41% ----- 29 (delegates)

http://abcnews.go.com/politics/elections/state?state=MA

[acmavm]

40. The day Teddy came out and endorsed Barrie I posted that his endorsement

meant NOTHING. And I told people to think for themselves.

Apparently a hell of a lot of people in Massachusetts had the same idea.

[Tellurian]

94. I think they heard you all the way out in the Aussie Outback!

:hi:

[blm]

41. Hillary was up by 40% not too long ago - Obama's close is astounding and

you all should look at this with some serious concern about the cracks TeamClinton is showing as a campaign weakening in power while you take silly potshots at the ASTOUNDING GROWING POWER of Obama's campaign.

[seaglass]

43. OK. I voted for Hillary in MA and it was one of the hardest

votes I ever cast.

If Kennedy, Kerry and HRC were all on the ballot? No doubt HRC would have been a distant third.

So no, she didn't beat either Kerry or Kennedy.

[BootinUp]

45. Can we tone it down just a smidge?

celebrate yes. No Kennedy slams pleaze.

[Kermitt Gribble]

59. I have to add

no Kerry slams either.

Please don't gloat, there's a long way to go yet.

[kelligesq]

66. sorry - he engineered this whole election-against Edwards & Clinton-absolutely no reason

not to celebrate his come-uppance

and I used to think he walked on water....till he did this

[Tellurian]

95. Yup, you tellem..Kelligesq

It's about time they understand you can't fool all the people all the time!

[milkyway]

50. Couldn't be more wrong! Hillary was up 25-30 points until Teddy endorsed. This is a delegate

race, and what should have been an overwhelming win for Hillary in a state with 93 pledged delegates and 28 unpledged, Hillary will now win Mass by only a few delegates. Teddy hurt her tremendously.

http://www.pollster.com/08-MA-Dem-Pres-Primary.php

[cottonseed]

57. Hey! Keep reality out of this!

;)

[karynnj]

82. Thank you

You make more sense than the KO comment that it didn't effect the race - it may well have, but not enough to make up a 25-30% deficit. That is a huge shift.

[Yossariant]

86. I don't know if the pod person on your avatar is speaking for you, but she's up by 21.

[milkyway]

98. Thanks for the insult. I could call her Queen Inevitable, but I won't.

Hillary is still holding a much larger lead than expected. I don't know if this is because Obama precincts are slow to report, but it seems like too much of the vote is already in to shift dramatically.

[Yossariant]

72. Yes, she did!

:woohoo:

[MethuenProgressive]

78. Congrats to the MA voters - No Sheeple up here!!

Bah, Deval, Kerry, and Teddy!

[LittleClarkie]

79. They were running?

I did not know that.

[Annces]

80. Say No to Vote padders

[jillan]

84. 59% Hillary - 38% Obama

wow !

[BlackVelvet04]

85. Why not put this in the Hillary Supporters thread

instead of rubbing salt in a wound. It's not very classy.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

92. damn straight

[ProSense]

99. Mass: Obama polling at 22% and within two weeks w/Kennedy and Kerry's endorsement, he broke 41% n/t

[krkaufman]

100. I wasn't aware that the "winner" of MA was ever in doubt.

As for "beating" the Kennedys, the change in vote margins, across the nation, indicates that the Kennedy endorsement has had a big effect on narrowing the gap between Obama and Clinton. So, from the proportional delegate perspective, your conclusion is, at minimum, premature, and quite possibly erroneous.

How's this for momentum (and don't forget the nearly 3-to-1 fundraising ratio in January)...

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