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Wed Feb-06-08 12:51 PM
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Obama would lose the Latino vote in California in a general election and the state. A disaster. |
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He won't win the red states he won last night because there are more Republicans than Democrats, and Idaho, Utah Republicans ain't going to vote for Obama.
Obama would be a disaster.
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Wed Feb-06-08 12:54 PM
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1. Where would Hillary win, genius? |
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Wed Feb-06-08 12:57 PM
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13. All the traditional blue states, Arkansas, probably VA, maybe TN |
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Wed Feb-06-08 01:33 PM
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27. I think she has a good chance of winning VA.... |
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Va's population is more than half female. I've seen the analysis that the "upscale" Democrats in northern va will go for Obama, but I disagree. I used to live in Northern Virginia and there are a LOT of single women working for the government that I believe Hillary Clinton will appeal to. In the rural area where I live now I'm starting to hear more women talk about seeing the election of the first woman president. While many are republican and would probably not admit to voting for Hillary, I think voting for her will be their guilty pleasure.
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Wed Feb-06-08 01:51 PM
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Out here in the barrios of CA we brown and black people (yes, a whole bunch who speak nothing but spanish) would rather vote for the devil than McCain. We'll gladly vote for Obama if he's the nominee. And matter of fact, most of us would have voted for him were it not for her political machine revved up for years years here and that most of us are ignorant about what's really behind the Hillary machine (i.e. Mark Penn etc) Whachabin smokin?
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Wed Feb-06-08 12:54 PM
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2. That's true in Alabama and Georgia, Repubs went with Huckabee. n/t |
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Wed Feb-06-08 12:55 PM
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3. Beware, tough crowd today. Hang tough, we've got this. |
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Wed Feb-06-08 12:55 PM
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4. anyone who doesn't see that doesn't want to see it..it is very clear..extrememly clear! eom |
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Wed Feb-06-08 12:55 PM
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5. Hispanic Democrats will vote for the Democrat. They aren't quite as racist as you appear to be. |
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Wed Feb-06-08 12:57 PM
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10. That would be my belief. As a DUer said yesterday, Hispanics don't have a |
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hive mentality. Give people credit!
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Wed Feb-06-08 12:58 PM
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Hispanics went for *. They cannot be pegged.
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Wed Feb-06-08 01:08 PM
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22. I can attest to that.. |
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I live in Phoenix and I saw a whole shitload of cars with Viva Bush stickers on them.
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Wed Feb-06-08 12:59 PM
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16. Unless their choice is Obama or an immigration reforming Republican |
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Wed Feb-06-08 01:06 PM
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19. try to pay attention, mucky |
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Obama is far more pro immigration reform than McCain, and he's been backtracking like mad. He won't find it so easy to try and return to the center in the general. cue the video tape. Why would you think that latinos won't vote for Obama in the general? I mean just because you won't vote for him for obvious ugly reasons, doesn't mean that latinos are all like you.
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Wed Feb-06-08 12:55 PM
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6. He appears to have made some headway |
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with Latino voters throughout the west.
Your concern appears less urgent today.
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Wed Feb-06-08 12:56 PM
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7. A lucid and well supported argument. |
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Wed Feb-06-08 12:56 PM
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8. What evidence do you have of that? |
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Just because latino voters prefer Hillary to Obama does not mean that they prefer a Republican to Obama.
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Wed Feb-06-08 12:56 PM
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9. So there is no difference in your mind between voting for Hillary |
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and voting for a Republican?
:rofl:
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Wed Feb-06-08 12:57 PM
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11. Bill Clinton, Richardson, Viaragosa etc. will be campaigning for Obama |
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Wed Feb-06-08 01:05 PM
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Richardson would be a great VP choice for Obama. He would bring in the Hispanic vote and he has experience in many areas of government, including foreign policy.
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Wed Feb-06-08 12:57 PM
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12. So in your mind, voting for Hillary is the same as voting for a Republican. Got it. |
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Wed Feb-06-08 12:57 PM
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14. yeah, he'd lose cali... |
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you huffing glue or pledge today?
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Wed Feb-06-08 01:03 PM
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17. Do you know how stupid that claim is, mucky? |
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It's as stupid as saying that Clinton would lose in the general because African Americans won't vote for her.
You are the lamest excuse for an analyst I've ever seen.
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Wed Feb-06-08 01:07 PM
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20. When Obama wins the nomination, will your head explode? n/t |
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Wed Feb-06-08 01:08 PM
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21. You gotta be shittin' me. |
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You understand that it was a choice between DEMOCRATS last night, right?
You also understand that regardless of which DEMOCRAT wins, his/her opposition will include "Giant wall with armed guards between here and..well..everywhere" in his platform, right?
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Wed Feb-06-08 01:09 PM
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23. Your probably right because McCain does well with Latinos. |
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Wed Feb-06-08 01:13 PM
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24. If the numbers of people who voted last night are any indicator |
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then you're wrong. Last night democrats received 90,000 more votes in Georgia than republicans did.
Tennessee had more than 66,000 Oklahoma had more than 71,000 North Dakota had more than 9,000 Arkansas had more than 75,000 Colorado had more than 65,000
I admit that this is a pretty rough sketch, but I like where we stand.
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Wed Feb-06-08 01:16 PM
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I don't believe that conclusion is warranted from the results so far, just as the conclusion that Hillary would lose the African American vote wouldn't be warranted.
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Wed Feb-06-08 01:33 PM
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26. What if Richardson was his VP? |
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Just tossing out idears. ;)
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Wed Feb-06-08 01:35 PM
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28. McCain would win California??? I don't think so. |
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He is still for this "war" and wants us to stay there. California Dems outvoted Repubs everywhere in the primaries. There is more turnout on our side.
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Wed Feb-06-08 01:37 PM
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29. And you think Republicans are going to vote for hillary? |
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Seriously? They HATE the Clintons. If Obama is our candidate, they'll just stay home. If Hillary is the nomination, they'll come out in mass just to stick it to them.
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Wed Feb-06-08 02:06 PM
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31. It is impossible for an anti-choice candidate like McCain to win California. |
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Impossible. You don't know anything.
Californians voted down even a "parental notification" requirement for teens to have abortions.
The only reason Arnold ever got elected was because he was pro-choice.
McCain is anti-choice and he can not win California.
Period.
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Wed Feb-06-08 03:21 PM
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32. "Latinos" do not vote as a bloc. The "hispanic bloc" does not |
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exist.
How "hispanics" vote depends entirely on a combination of where they live now (what community) and where they are originally from. As evidenced in the last election in Mexico, they have their own red states and blue states there. As evidenced by the Cuban American vote in Florida, they tend to vote Republican (but that is changing drastically). Cuban Americans in NY vote Dem.
"Hispanics" from California will never vote for McCain.
So far as the "red" states -- ha! The Repubs have only had better turnout in two states so far. Their time is over and they know it.
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Wed Feb-06-08 03:23 PM
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33. he could name Lou Dobbs his California campaign manager |
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