Obama supporters:

[gateley]

This is hypothetical --

IF it's "worked out" that Hillary runs for Prez with Barack as the VP, would that be okay with you? Would you still vote?

Here's why I'm asking: On NPR today they were speaking with a 23 year old "political pundit" and discussing the younger voters that Obama has energized to become involved. The question was asked if Obama DIDN'T win, would his base vote for the nom, or just lose interest. Her (23 year old) said that since there was such enthusiasm - almost "Obama mania" (she didn't say it in a pejorative way), that they may feel so discouraged they wouldn't become involved supporting the nom.

They discussed how difficult it is for anyone who gives their all to a candidate, to have to turn to who the day before was "the enemy" and keep the passion.

I'm wondering if you think his supporters (especially the newbies to the political process) would vote for a Clinton/Obama ticket or not?

Thanks for your wisdom!

[MadBadger]

1. I'll vote for her anyway.

[yourout]

2. I'll vote....it will be a lost cause...but I will vote.

[peacebird]

3. No - I will not vote for HRC.

[Levgreee]

4. I would, but I wouldn't be happy with it. I don't think Obama would have that much influence

[Kittycat]

5. I don't understand the framing of your question.

Obama is the one with all the advantage right now. Why would he accept VP? Or Jr. VP to Bill.

[gateley]

22. That was the situation that was discussed on the radio show I heard -- that's all.

As I said, it's hypothetical.

The reason I was thinking of a combo ticket, though, was because I heard Howard Dean say yesterday that's what he was hoping for.

[Qutzupalotl]

6. I'd vote for it. I just think that

Clinton/Clark or Obama/Biden is stronger to negate McCain's one strength.

[TheWraith]

7. You should be asking the reverse. Obama's winning, why would he take second? NT

[gateley]

23. Hypothetical, and that's what the discussion was about this on the show I heard.

And I wonder if ANYBODY (Clinton, included if the HYPOTHETICAL situation were reversed) would refuse to take VP if the party encouraged such a ticket.

That's all.

[TexasObserver]

8. I can't imagine that Obama would ever consider it.

[Coexist]

9. I would - my daughter would check out

she doesn't care about "my" politicians, she adores Barack.

The rest are viewed as hopelessly corrupt. She likes to follow stuff in politics, but is amused when the Dems break my heart.

The interest she has shown isn't as much to be a good Dem soldier, its full-on Obama support.

[yourout]

16. My college age sons are in the same boat....Obama or stay home.

[gateley]

25. I think that's the question they were asking on the radio -- and I did a really

poor job of relaying it. It was basically (especially with the younger voters) is it Obama or stay home?

[ginnyinWI]

10. she's not an enemy to me

Obama is the best candidate, to me, but she is still okay. I don't think she would change Washington the way Obama would, but she'd do better than a Republican.

I don't think she'd ever ask Obama to be on the ticket with her. I'm sure she's got that person already picked out and vetted.

[NoodleBoy]

11. I will vote for whoever is the nominee, if Obama or Clinton are on the ticket or not.

[rox63]

12. If he didn't win, I would vote for Hillary, although I would be disappointed

And I would be a little more enthusiastic about it if Obama was on the ticket. I just fear that whoever was Hillary's running mate would actually be the third in charge, after Hill & Bill.

[angie_love]

13. At this point I think they need each other

But I don't want Obama to take the VP. I say let her win on her own if shes the nominee

[gateley]

24. Howard Dean said he would like to see them run together. I'm like all of you

who don't think it would be the best possible marriage, but it's a HYPOTHETICAL question -- that's all.

[gravity]

14. Of course I would vote, but I will be very pissed off if it was "worked out"

[Sanctified]

15. I would vote for her even without Obama as a VP.

Sorry but I don't want to see another Republican President, we need to fix this country and I will take a temporary band aid in Hillary over the infection a Republican will bring.

[eleny]

17. Did you hear what George Will said on Sunday morning with Stephanopolis?

He said that Obama would not want to be on the ticket as VP. Steph asked him why and Geroge Will replied "Because he wants to be Governor of Illinois".

Now, I caucused for Obama last night and happy with my choice. Obama is no fool. Why should he play third banana when he could govern his home state and an important one at that? In 8 or so years he'll still be in his 50s. And he'd be poised and ready with all the "experience" needed to satisfy the electorate.

We could have 16 straight years of Dem presidents if that scenario plays out. Would you be happy with that?

[gateley]

26. I think IDEALLY neither of them would take the VP spot, but I got the impression

from Howard Dean that they feel it may be needed to keep the party competitive in the GE.

[eleny]

36. I heard that report of Dean's thoughts

It sure makes sense and would be good for the nation, imo. But these two are ambitious politicians. The deal has to be a really good one. No Kennedy/Johnson type relationship for Obama with Bill Clinton playing the RFK role in practical terms.

[DrFunkenstein]

18. I'd Vote For Her And Spend Four Years Wondering

When the triangulation will stop.

[Hippo_Tron]

19. It's a good question and I don't yet have an answer for you

Well personally I do, I'm supporting the Democratic nominee. But even though I'm young, I've been a political junkie since sophomore year of high school, so I wouldn't consider myself "new to the process".

As for my friends who like Obama and are new and certainly not loyal Democrats, it's hard to say whether they would vote for a Clinton/Obama ticket. I think a lot of it would be based on how well Clinton presents herself in contrast to McCain when the General Election comes along. If you want my guess, some of them will vote for Clinton/Obama and some of them will vote for McCain.

I think my friends do show that Obama may have a legitimate point when he says that not all of his supporters will support Clinton in the General Election. I know that's sin here on DU but the fact is that many of his supporters are independents, not Democrats. Independents look at all of the candidates of both parties in the primaries and then do the same thing in the general election.

[gateley]

27. Thanks for your input. If you've been a political junkie since you were a

sophomore, you must be in hog heaven! :hi:

[murielm99]

20. Ask this question of younger voters out in the real world.

I have. I asked it at a meeting of active Democrats.

Just in that room, roughly 20% of them said they would not vote at all.

I find that discouraging. Many of us have compromised for years. Sometimes we do it for the good of the party. Sometimes we do it because the alternative is even worse. But I think not voting for the nominee is giving up. We can't give up.

[gateley]

28. I think that's the concern of the Dem party, which is why Howard Dean

said he'd like to see them on the same ticket.

I agree - we can't give up. Don't be discouraged -- we'll prevail! :pals:

[K Gardner]

21. If Obama is at the top of the ticket, yes, but begrudingly because the Clintons have no

business near the WH again.

[Cha]

29. That's not going to happen..way

too hypothetical for me..and just a little more than hpocritical.

[Xithras]

30. I do hear much of the same from my students (college age).

One thing many people tend to forget about younger voters is that they're often personality centered, and not party centered. Obama has ignited political interest in many of these young voters with his "Change vs. The Establishment" ideals, and Clinton has become identified as "The Establishment".

A normal part of youth is rejecting and rebelling against the ideals of your parents and attempting to strike a new path. Obama has capitailized on that wonderfully. If he fails and Clinton gets the nomination, I fully expect that many of these younger voters will simply tune out. For them, gender isn't an issue...they're too young to remember the gender battles of the past, and not old enough to have yet faced issues like workplace pay disparities. An Obama loss takes personal issues off the table, so I don't see how Clinton can keep the younger voters interested. She's the "establishment" and is just what some of them are hoping to upset.

[Big Blue Marble]

31. No.

[sfam]

32. I would vote for her if Barack was on the ticket...

Although I think he would be a waste as a VP. I don't think Hillary's VP will have anything to do. At all.

[Adelante]

33. It's not a ticket I would want to see happen

But I will vote for the nominee regardless of who else is on the ticket.

[rjx]

34. I am 100% for Barack Obama

Hillary gets on my nerves a little.

BUT

If Hillary gets the nomination, regardless if Barack is her VP, I will put all my support behind Hillary.

WHY?

Cause I am a democrat and I believe in the democratic principles and I would like to see them protected.

[LordJFT]

35. I'd vote for her and campaign for her

but the enthusiasm just wouldn't be there

[Khaotic]

37. Obama wouldn't consider it

... and neither would Hillary.

Hillary will run w/ Clark or someone like him.

Obama will go back to the Senate.

If Obama wins, I say he runs with Gov. Tim Kaine, or someone like him.

Then Hillary goes back to the Senate.

They won't end up on the same ticket. People here in DU don't realize the HUGE differences in both of them.

Obama is a true progressive, Hillary is a moderate corporate loving GOPlite wolf in sheep's clothing.

In almost EVERY online poll that I saw among other progressives leading up to the primaries, Hillary would score the lowest of almost every candidate ... that was lower than Kucinich, Gravel, etc. ... any of them. Progressives HATE her!

The Democratic party shouldn't be satisfied w/ her.

Who do you think is MORE likely to rebalance government and relinquish the executive powers stolen by the Bush administration????

Who?

Not Hillary!

I believe Obama would. Government for, of, and by the people.

Time to end the cycle of Clintons and Bushes in the White House.

Time for the Democratic Party to hold its head high and put in a real candidate.

Obama won't be running with Hillary. There friendship only exists for the cameras. They hate each other.

You asked, there it is.