All this divisive fighting, nit-picking, and name-calling over two candidates

[Pale Blue Dot]

with differences between them that are so minor as to be laughable. Everyone is working up self-righteous, phony-baloney passion over a choice that's as inconsequential as soup vs. sandwich for lunch.

Whoever the nominee, people are going to wake up in about two years from now and wonder what the hell happened here.

I wish you Obama and Clinton people had half as much passion over torture. Or impeachment. Or our failing economy. Or our eroding civil liberties. Or the fact that, once again, Democrats are going to be forced to vote for a candidate that most the rest of the civilized world would call "conservative lite."

Your in-fighting is pathetic and exposes the current weakness of our party. All of this energy and vitriol over nothing. You should be as ashamed as I am.

[LittleClarkie]

1. DU is not the party... thank God

I'm not sure how much it highlights the weakness of the party as a whole. I'm not sure we're all that representative, really.

[begin_within]

2. DU is doing the Republicans' homework for them.

[southernleftylady]

7. exactly what I was thinking! nt

[OzarkDem]

3. They have major differences in health care reform

and if Obama can't be honest about good health care policy, it says a lot about him. Even worse when he uses right wing talking points that could set back any reform by a decade.

His policies are vastly different, vastly inferior and his message is worse.

[Pale Blue Dot]

8. They may have "major" differences in health care reform,

but neither one is right, both (I believe) know what the solution is, and neither one has the courage to say it.

I will say this, though - at least you stuck to the issues, OzarkDem, which is more than I can say for 99% of the posters in here. :thumbsup:

[sniffa]

4. It's embarrassing actually

I was in an area ripe for picking up new members here, but I didn't bother.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4420629&mesg_id=4445685

[BootinUp]

5. So glad you could enlighten us that our choice

doesn't matter.

[Pale Blue Dot]

9. If people could discuss, using the ISSUES, why their choice matters,

that would be a worthy discussion. Virtually none of the discussion has to do with the real ISSUES, however, and I believe that that's because the candidates are so similar as to make that argument pointless (which makes the level of venom in here even more pathetic).

[BootinUp]

10. I agree there is a distinction there and join you

in your callout of the non-issue flame baiting nonsense.

[Donnachaidh]

6. giving them two years is generous.

Six months after the election all those *change* folks will be screaming about nothing being done. Six months after the other side gets in we'll see the hmo's, pharma and insurance people going to meetings to *fix* the health problems - all on OUR dime.

The only CHANGE either one of them will do is to re-direct our tax dollars into different pockets. And the recession will deepen into a depression while the middle class tanks, and the Dems in power look for facetime on TV so they can blame it all on the previous administration.

[Pale Blue Dot]

11. I agree. Both their economic reform packages fail to address the real issues.

"the Dems in power look for facetime on TV so they can blame it all on the previous administration." Yep. And half of the Dems here will blame it on the fact the we didn't elect the other candidate.