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demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 08:05 PM
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LOOK HERE, ALL Hillary&Obama HATERS, Progressives, Young & Old, Skeptics & All- IT'S SO SAD -rant!
Edited on Wed Feb-06-08 08:27 PM by demo dutch
I'm posting his again to

All of you in the comfort of your homes/apartments or what ever, who are spewing stuff from your laptops & computers! because you're all SO self-absorbed these days
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In the past few weeks, I heard three stories that are heartbreaking:

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A friend spend 2 months trying to find a job locally and was finally forced to accept a job out-of-state (1300 miles away) in order to pay the bills. Hoping that the job situation back home would improve, and the slumping R.E market would eventually turn around, they decided that the wife and kids should stay behind for now, so that the kids could stay in school and they wouldn’t have to sell their house at a loss. They lost their health insurance and choose to insure their kids thru a school program but choose to fore go coverage for themselves it was simply too expensive. Today I heard that they found lump in the wife’s breast.
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She was a new teacher at my daughter’s school this year. She was a single mother and had just come into the system at the beginning of the school year. Her cancer had re-occurred and had spread to her brain. The principal had offered for her to take a leave of absence but due to her finances, she choose to take her chemotherapy in the morning before school. (I think she had some sort of minimal insurance coverage) Before Christmas break she was coughing terribly in the teachers lounge. Some teachers suggested she should go to the doctor, but she said, finances are really tight and that she couldn’t really afford it right now. She died over Christmas break.
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Driving to work a few days ago, I heard a story on NPR radio by a reporter who filed a report regarding the Primary and what our soldiers in Iraq thought about all the Primary excitement.
The reporter followed around a unit in the, (I believe it was) the Anwar province but there simply was no time to talk to the soldiers about the primary. There were IED’s and people getting hurt, and even at the end of the day the soldiers were simply to exhausted to even think about primaries. The reporter managed to just talk briefly the end of the day to an Alabama Soldier before he collapsed on a cot in an empty house to catch a little sleep. That Alabama soldier told the reporter that he really hadn’t thought about primaries but that he just worried about his wife in Alabama who can’t find job and doesn’t have health insurance.
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Do you think these people and/or their families give a damn about Hillary’s corporate connections, or whether Obama’s “Message of Hope” is enough to be elected? Do you think they give a damn whether either of our candidates “voted for” or “against” the Iraq resolution? Do you think that the people in New Orleans that are homeless and live underneath bridges give a rat’s ass about any of these things? Do you think that all the homeless vets and Iraq soldiers who are maimed with inadequate benefits really care?

I'm sorry that your favorite candidate may not be the nominee. Yes, the Majority of the country wants out of Iraq and, Yes, the majority wants to improve the economy, and Yes, the odds are probably in our favor. But the fact of the matter is, the Publican Party will demonize our nominee no matter who it is. Currently neither of our two final candidates are beating McCain in a landslide. I believe the Dem nominee will need all the votes they can get, and I hope they'll come through, because I’m not ready for 4-8 more years of GOP crap and neither are the people and families I mention at my intro.

I'm sure that there will be some that won't vote Hillary and some won’t vote for Obama, and some claim they won’t vote for either one. Improving people’s lives, the economy, Iraq, and health care are still major issues for Dems. So, IF Obama doesn't make it, I'm sure he will support Hillary in the end AND vice versa, because they are still both democrats who's ultimate goal is to put an end to the 8 years of the Republican nightmare.

So, I’m damn sorry that some of you would consider sacrificing a Dem WH and to fore go the chance to push for progressive ideas with a Dem majority in office. I’m sure Kucinich is not going to sit on his hands. He will go to work everyday to advance his beliefs. I’m sure Edwards will support the nominee and continue to make a difference and work to advance his life’s agenda. It’s the same for the Hillary, Obama, the Kennedy’s and all the other Dem politicians you might identify with. They won’t choose 8 more yrs of GOP crap by not voting.

So when you vow to “sit on your hands” this November, because your candidate didn’t win, or your candidate isn’t progressive enough, or whatever else reason, I haven’t mentioned here, please take all this, and the unfortunate people in this country who are without health care, without options and are less fortunate than you are, into consideration. In my opinion there isn’t much difference with the RW haters and Rush crowd, who won't vote for McCain, so maybe you'll cancel each other out.

But, sometimes we need to look at the bigger picture outside of the narrow DU-political world



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blue neen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 08:15 PM
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1. Is there a way to make a cyber "high five", because I'd like to give you one.
Edited on Wed Feb-06-08 08:16 PM by blue neen
Excellent, thoughtful, and impressive post. You truly have said the words that need to be spoken here.

Thank you.

On edit, I wish I could recommend this more than once!
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demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 08:18 PM
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2. Well thank you!!! I just tired of all the meaningless meanness
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blue neen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 08:54 PM
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5. Meaningless meanness says it all.
:thumbsup:
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Fresh_Start Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 08:31 PM
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3. thank you
Edited on Wed Feb-06-08 08:31 PM by NYCALIZ
I'd also add that there are literally 10's of millions of Americans who don't have enough food, heat, medicine, or a safe place to sleep tonight.
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NastyRiffraff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 08:31 PM
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4. Thank you
We need to keep the big picture in mind. We know that either Clinton or Obama will push a socially progressive platforms, and work to get legislation through. They may not do it as quickly as we'd like. The legislation may not have all the features that we'd like. But we can light a fire under either of them, becaue basically, they both are progressives. Neither is "pure," but then, who is?

What we also know: John McCain will do little or nothing to help. So, withholding your vote, or worse, voting Republican or for a Nader, will prevent anything at all being done about the poor, the veterans, the people with no health care. Is your purity worth that much?
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 09:23 PM
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6. Thank you.
It's about time someone rose up above the petty crap to remind everyone of what the real issue is here.

As has been said in other situations, "Eyes on the prize, people. Eyes on the prize."
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kittylicious Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 02:14 AM
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7. Bravo!
I'm relatively new to DU. My boyfriend is a long-time DU'er and I do lurk from time to time when he points out things he'd like to share. I've never really wanted to add my two bits until after reading this post.

I've been lurking a lot the past two days, looking for guidance amongst peers, and I've been really upset by the 'my candidate is better' mentality. It seems to me, from what I've read, that people are not focusing on what is really important. I know that it is easy to get caught up in the day-to-day drama, but THANK YOU demo dutch for reminding us what is at stake. I'm very fortunate to have a roof over my head, health care for the first time in years, and food to put on my plate. Not everyone can be so lucky and these are the people that really need us the most right now! Goodness knows that the GOP doesn't give a rat's ass about them - unless there is a desperate need of a photo op. :grr:

I'm not 100% happy with who we have to choose from to represent us in the next presidential campaign, but I'll support the Democratic party because I believe we need to focus on the bigger picture. So, stop bickering and vote Democratic, because what our country really doesn't need is more GOP tyranny.

two bits given :hide:
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 08:10 AM
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8. Well said.
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damonm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-07-08 04:29 PM
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9. THIS!
Thank you!

I have been saying the exact same thing in other boards where I have seen these self-absorbed whiners (on BOTH sides of the H-O divide)willing to sacrifice the nation on the alter of their infantile temper tantrums.

I am an Obama supporter, and find the claims made against him here to be, as the Bard so aptly put it
"...a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing." But, that said, I WILL be voting for Hillary (albeit with misgivings) should she be the nominee.

For those of you willing to throw temper tantrums and not vote (or worse, vote Rethuglican) because the party had the temerity to nominate someone YOU disagree with, I shall be certain to thank YOU while more American blood & treasure is poured into the rathole called Iraq. I will thank YOU when Roe Vs. Wade is overturned by conservative judges appointed by McCain. I will thank YOU when president McCain sends us to war with Iran. Just hope I don't bring my baseball bat to thank you with.

For it is YOU who will be responsible.
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